Old 17th September 2022, 11:20   #481
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Is there any way to import saved smart views from winamp 5.666 to winamp 5.9?
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Is there a way to move all created smart views of a 5.666 install to a fresh 5.9 install?
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You'd need to copy over the following files from the Settings folder:

Winamp\Plugins\gen_ml.ini
Winamp\Plugins\ml\main.dat & main.idx (the actual local library database)*
Winamp\Plugins\ml\views (entire subfolder contents)


* Another method of copying over the actual database is to use the Library (button) => Export Media Database in 5.6x, then import the saved XML file via 5.9 => Library button => Import Media Database (though the copy main.dat & main.idx method seems easier to me).
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Why do I end up with an old Winamp 5.8 beta if I use download and install Winamp through Microsoft winget from the command prompt?
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Did you definitely install 5.9 Final version?

Or was it an older RC build from some other site?

Did you run the installer (recommended), or did you try to manually install it by extracting files with e.g. 7-Zip?

Was it a clean install, or did you install on top of an older version of Winamp?
If the latter, were there any additional non-default plug-ins present?
Hi,
I have the exact same issue with Winamp last version: after loading, it crashes after 1 second without having done anything.
I've installed with the installer on top of a 5.8 version. Windows 10.
I don't have any additional plugins, just the default ones.
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I have the exact same issue with Winamp last version: after loading, it crashes after 1 second without having done anything.
I've installed with the installer on top of a 5.8 version. Windows 10.
I don't have any additional plugins, just the default ones.
Take a look at this http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=458828

try installing a new clean version without any plugins , after that one works just like it should add plugins

don't forget to backup your plugins etc
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Old 19th September 2022, 14:23   #485
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It sounds like winget is not using the correct location and pulling the old file. Why don't you just download using the link and install it yourself, that's probably going to be the surest way when a third party database of downloads may not be updated quite as frequently as it should be?
The winamp main page has this link if you scroll down
https://download.nullsoft.com/winamp...atest_full.exe

And the forum page for the release notice and downloads can be found at;
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=458120
(the first entry of this thread)

I believe winget is a microsoft program and it's going to rely on their database of downloads to pull from so there's that extra layer that's got to be up to date to work accurately. Anyway, just a thought.. Hope this helps.. let us know.
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Hi, long time user..

Recently moved to win11 and winamp started crashing if idle, but only after idle for a while.

Newest final version is much better, but still can crash if left alone for too long in idle.

I can't find the error report file atm, but I think it said winamp.exe memory access violation in kernelbase32.dll, and I made sure windows defender ransomware folder protection is disabled.


EDIT: found it in attachment
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Hi, long time user..

Recently moved to win11 and winamp started crashing if idle, but only after idle for a while.

Newest final version is much better, but still can crash if left alone for too long in idle.

I can't find the error report file atm, but I think it said winamp.exe memory access violation in kernelbase32.dll, and I made sure windows defender ransomware folder protection is disabled.


EDIT: found it in attachment
Once again, I need to ask, even though you moved to Win 11, did you install over an existing Winamp installation in Win 11? Did you install over existing plugins? I run Win 11 and 5.9, even the earler RCs, ran extremely well without crashing. We need to ask this first and then move on to other questions from there. Thanks!

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Hi, long time user..

Recently moved to win11 and winamp started crashing if idle, but only after idle for a while.

Newest final version is much better, but still can crash if left alone for too long in idle.

I can't find the error report file atm, but I think it said winamp.exe memory access violation in kernelbase32.dll, and I made sure windows defender ransomware folder protection is disabled.


EDIT: found it in attachment
Need a List of Plugins installed as well. I just looked at the crash dump, very strange.
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Bring back ctrl+D

Ctrl+D to toggle double size mode hasn't seemed to work in a long time, and it still doesn't work with this new version. Please bring it back. I have a 4K laptop, so the PPI is really high and Winamp shows up *tiny*.
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Hi, long time user..

Recently moved to win11 and winamp started crashing if idle, but only after idle for a while.

Newest final version is much better, but still can crash if left alone for too long in idle.

I can't find the error report file atm, but I think it said winamp.exe memory access violation in kernelbase32.dll, and I made sure windows defender ransomware folder protection is disabled.


EDIT: found it in attachment

Are any of these 3rd-party plug-ins set as the active Output plug-in?

out_yasapi.dll
out_asio.dll
out_burst.dll
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Old 20th September 2022, 08:58   #491
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Ctrl+D to toggle double size mode hasn't seemed to work in a long time, and it still doesn't work with this new version. Please bring it back. I have a 4K laptop, so the PPI is really high and Winamp shows up *tiny*.

Ctrl+D works fine for Classic skins.
It's never worked for modern/freeform skins...


For Bento/Modern use main menu (top left corner icon) => Window Settings => Scaling
Also, increase Playlist font size in Prefs => Playlist
(ML font size should be linked via: Prefs => Media Library => Appearance: ML uses same font as pledit)


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A couple problems with the upgrade

1. Winamp detects that there's a new version and notifies the user, but the webpage it tries to go to, winamp.com/player, is a 404. In fact the only way to find the new version is in this forum. I had to find it by googling it.

2. The Winamp 5.9 installation must install a C++ redistributable package or whatever, but after you install that it prompts you to reboot your computer, but the reboot screen says that Winamp installation is preventing it from rebooting. Makes it look kind of unprofessional.
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Ctrl+D works fine for Classic skins.
It's never worked for modern/freeform skins...


For Bento/Modern use main menu (top left corner icon) => Window Settings => Scaling
Also, increase Playlist font size in Prefs => Playlist
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1. Winamp detects that there's a new version and notifies the user, but the webpage it tries to go to, winamp.com/player, is a 404. In fact the only way to find the new version is in this forum. I had to find it by googling it.

winamp.com itself has the download on the page also
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winamp.com itself has the download on the page also
I think he's suggesting that his older version of Winamp saw an available update and tried to download from an internal, out-of-date link. This couldn't be controlled or anticipated by the developers this many years later so I think calling it "unprofessional" is hardly fair. Also - is finding Winamp 5.9 really that difficult? I can't see how it could be since it is easily available in this very thread and also from the official site.

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Winamp developers, can you add both the 32-bit and 64-bit of the VC++ 2019 runtimes to the Winamp installer. The installer only installs the 32-bit version of the runtimes.
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Once again, I need to ask, even though you moved to Win 11, did you install over an existing Winamp installation in Win 11? Did you install over existing plugins? I run Win 11 and 5.9, even the earler RCs, ran extremely well without crashing. We need to ask this first and then move on to other questions from there. Thanks!
Hi,

I had 5.8 on win10, moved to 11 and kept the same version, then it started making problems, then I tried new RC4, overwrite, not much better. Then I did clean install was a little better.. Now with final, I did clean install, and at first it thought it was ok but then it happened eventually, it took a long longer though 45min+ or even 1hr, was watching a movie when it was interrupted with winamp error dialog.

I can try to do another clean install, maybe it will clear itself.

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Are any of these 3rd-party plug-ins set as the active Output plug-in?

out_yasapi.dll
out_asio.dll
out_burst.dll
Hi,

hmm, yes out_burst.dll, audioburst.fx, I use only this plugin, have it unlocked - not demo version

I updated it recently when I was still on win10. When I listen to the music it is stable all the time.. only in idle for some reason





Maybe worth mentioning, I searched for alternatives and found some app called musicbee which can also use winamp plugins, and there it was ok even at idle, it was the first thing I tested.
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Need a List of Plugins installed as well. I just looked at the crash dump, very strange.

HI, ok I ran this tool



when I saw DJ egg reply about my plugins, I then uninstalled all other custom ones ASIO and yet another wasabi, so only audioburst is left now.
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Winamp developers, can you add both the 32-bit and 64-bit of the VC++ 2019 runtimes to the Winamp installer. The installer only installs the 32-bit version of the runtimes.

Winamp is a 32-bit app and it only requires the 32-bit runtime.

If we ever get the 64-bit version to fully compile and we release a 64-bit package, then the installer for it will check for the 64-bit runtime.
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Hi, ok I ran this tool

when I saw DJ egg reply about my plugins, I then uninstalled all other custom ones ASIO and yet another wasabi, so only audioburst is left now.

It's more than likely to be the active plug-in causing the issue.

It may well work ok with musicbee and older versions of Winamp,
but there's been a lot of core changes, so it's no longer guaranteed to work in Winamp 5.9.

Unfortunately, the 5.9 SDK is not yet ready for publication :-(

Please confirm if the problem still occurs when there's no non-default/additional plug-ins present.
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1. Winamp detects that there's a new version and notifies the user, but the webpage it tries to go to, winamp.com/player, is a 404. In fact the only way to find the new version is in this forum. I had to find it by googling it.

2. The Winamp 5.9 installation must install a C++ redistributable package or whatever, but after you install that it prompts you to reboot your computer, but the reboot screen says that Winamp installation is preventing it from rebooting. Makes it look kind of unprofessional.

Yes, winamp.com/player was used in an older version.
We should put up some content or redirect to a new dedicated page...


We can use any of the following switches for the vc_redist_86.exe package:

/install /quiet /norestart

but currently, we don't use any.


We prefer user notification & interaction on non-silent-installs.
But maybe we could add /norestart if there's a guarantee it works ok on all systems without a reboot..?
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All of us owe a word of thanks to DJ Egg who has been answering and in many cases, resolving, most or all of your bug reports.

I cannot express enough the importance of understanding that 5.9 was not a continuation of 5.666 but rather, a continuation of 5.8 *beta* for many reasons including legal reasons. Please bear this in mind when making statements about things that "worked" in 5.666 but were then "broken" in 5.9. 5.9 is a whole new animal and the developers are doing their best to maintain compatibility over *years* of Microsoft Windows OS versions, namely, Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10, & 11. Some of you may not realize how difficult maintaining that compatibility actually is.

I ask that you continue to show respect and a little kindness when reporting these "bugs" as many of them cover not only an incredible arc of time but extremes of individual usage that the vast majority of Winamp users are not experiencing.
I disagree. We need a winamp that can use the experience gained over many years. We need a winamp that will work just like 5.8 and below. Many developers no longer support their plugins, and we need them to work. The strength of Winamp is in plugins and support for community experience, without this, the transition to visual studio 2017 does not make sense if we break everything.
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It's more than likely to be the active plug-in causing the issue.

It may well work ok with musicbee and older versions of Winamp,
but there's been a lot of core changes, so it's no longer guaranteed to work in Winamp 5.9.

Unfortunately, the 5.9 SDK is not yet ready for publication :-(

Please confirm if the problem still occurs when there's no non-default/additional plug-ins present.
Ok thanks, I wrote directly to their support if it still exists, will see if they have anything to say. I really liked their powerfx fx, made some old mp3 songs sound really good



Sure, I can try default, which one is ideal, out_ds.dll?
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I disagree. We need a winamp that can use the experience gained over many years. We need a winamp that will work just like 5.8 and below. Many developers no longer support their plugins, and we need them to work. The strength of Winamp is in plugins and support for community experience, without this, the transition to visual studio 2017 does not make sense if we break everything.
Then don't use it. You are free to go back to 5.666 or 5.8. Constantly pointing fingers and making accusations against the Winamp developers in the manner that you do is not helpful in the slightest. You can bet if that's the kind of feedback they get, they will never proceed in the direction you're suggesting.

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We did test a number of 3rd-party plug-ins prior to releasing RC3 and addressed some issues.
But we obviously can't test all plug-ins - and as has always been the case, if possible, some plugins will need to be updated.

As I've said a few times already, we acknowledge that the 5.9 SDK needs to be released, but it's not ready just yet.
As anyone who downloaded the previous one knows, even the last SDK included a fair number of outdated plug-ins and code.
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Then don't use it. You are free to go back to 5.666 or 5.8. Constantly pointing fingers and making accusations against the Winamp developers in the manner that you do is not helpful in the slightest. You can bet if that's the kind of feedback they get, they will never proceed in the direction you're suggesting.
I'm not trying to blame anyone, I think that the developers are great. I like Winamp 5.9, but I understand the dissatisfied. Winamp hasn't had a new version for a long time. Many plugin developers have closed their projects and the issue of compatibility is very relevant. I see that switching to vs2017 has broken some parts. I wish the developers patience in replacing all broken parts. In any case, thanks to the developers for the work.
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I'll tell you what ... for all the problems, glitches, and install failures users here are reporting, I must live a blessed life. Or else, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit just likes DJ Egg, and all the other guys developing this thing.

I did a "clean install," erasing everything but my plug-ins dir (which I renamed "plugins_dead").

Not only did Winamp 5.9 load successfully, not only does it play my songs without a hitch, but my Media Library, window positions, and even my previous playlist were right where I left them in Winamp 5.8!

Way to go, guys!

I even have Lyrics showing, again (thanks to MiniLyrics)!

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I'll tell you what ... for all the problems, glitches, and install failures users here are reporting, I must live a blessed life. Or else, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit just likes DJ Egg, and all the other guys developing this thing.

I did a "clean install," erasing everything but my plug-ins dir (which I renamed "plugins_dead").

Not only did Winamp 5.9 load successfully, not only does it play my songs without a hitch, but my Media Library, window positions, and even my previous playlist were right where I left them in Winamp 5.8!

Way to go, guys!

I even have Lyrics showing, again (thanks to MiniLyrics)!
Isn't that incredible??? I had nearly the same experience although I'm using Windows 11. 5.9 Just works!! However, I suspect your experience has actually been the case with the vast majority of installations of Winamp 5.9. Good luck and have fun!

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Hello Gents, great job on the latest version and thank you so much for all your hard work! I just wanted to report one small problem as it is a feature I use so much, but in the modern skin the crossfade feature isn't working. It lights up and I can set the seconds but it does not actually crossfade. Just wanted to let you know
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Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable has a new version 2015-2022
Will the 2015-2019 old version that currently needs to be installed by Winamp5.9 be updated in the future?
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Will the 2015-2019 old version that currently needs to be installed by Winamp5.9 be updated in the future?
Most probable, yes. Including older VC++ Runtimes in old setup programs is not supposed to be a security risk (when newer versions should have have been installed anyway). But 2015 versions and upwards seem pretty security aware anyway.
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The release of versions RC1, 3 and 4 were very fast, until the final version of the Player, is there a release forecast for version 5.9.1 or even version 6 of Winamp?
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I wrote to audioburst QQ labs, but no reply what so ever. So I guess it's dead.

I used out_wasapi a bit and it didn't crash in idle.. So I guess out_burst.dll is the cause. -_-
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I wrote to audioburst QQ labs, but no reply what so ever. So I guess it's dead.

I used out_wasapi a bit and it didn't crash in idle.. So I guess out_burst.dll is the cause. -_-
Winamp with me crashes every day, the conclusion I came to is that it's incompatibility with my machine, memories or something.
I know that on Windows 10 Winamp runs smooth, but on Windows 11 it crashes a lot, I have both installed on the same machine (Operating Systems).
Quite irritating.
The way is to wait for a better version, in my case specifically.
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Winamp with me crashes every day -
I have another question for you: Did you install Winamp 5.9 to *include* the Winamp Agent?

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I have another question for you: Did you install Winamp 5.9 to *include* the Winamp Agent?
I don't use Winamp Agent, good question.

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I have another question for you: Did you install Winamp 5.9 to *include* the Winamp Agent?
I used Winamp with Winamp Agent crashes the same way. ?..

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I used Winamp with Winamp Agent crashes the same way. ?..
Ok. I was curious. I had to reinstall Win 11 after a HD crash. I installed it w/o the Agent and it would crash if the computer went to sleep but stays "alive" when I installed the Agent with no other issues.

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I hope WASAPI support will be a standard as that outputs the cleanest sound. Also, native 64-bit app will be nice.
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