I hate networking

Cameron221 · 30th September 2002, 20:13

Ok, im getting that new Xbox Live for chirstmas, and I want to make sure im able to run it once i install it. So, i was wondering if anyone who knows hwo to connect a network can help me sort it out. I included an image (it is not 1337) and it includes what i think could be the setup i need. But i need to know the router setup, and what goes where. Id appreciate the help.

ps: lamers who tell me just to buy some online PC game will be put on my ignore list. I have my reasons for buying an Xbox.

LawnGnome2005 · 30th September 2002, 20:47

Perfect.

Mr. 75MHz · 30th September 2002, 20:48

I hate networking to, I want to network to computers up so i can share and internet connection between them because one has the internet and the other one dosent but it wont work and I wondering what i am doing wrong. i have installed all the drivers, went though the network setup wizard etc... but both computers are not picking each other up for some reason

LawnGnome2005 · 30th September 2002, 20:51

I find it easier to use a router to hook up two computers to the net. You just hook the modem to the router, the router to the computers, and insert a CD for the software. Dunno how to network a 56k tho.

ctn|chrisw · 30th September 2002, 20:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. 75MHz
I hate networking to, I want to network to computers up so i can share and internet connection between them because one has the internet and the other one dosent but it wont work and I wondering what i am doing wrong. i have installed all the drivers, went though the network setup wizard etc... but both computers are not picking each other up for some reason

Do you have broadband of dialup?

Cameron221 · 30th September 2002, 20:58

broadband.

yes, i know ill need an extra IP Address.

Mr. 75MHz · 30th September 2002, 21:02

Quote:

Originally posted by cmw6988

Do you have broadband of dialup?

I have a 56K dial-up

eleet-2k2 · 30th September 2002, 22:45

Look's fine to me.

ctn|chrisw · 30th September 2002, 22:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. 75MHz

I have a 56K dial-up

you cant do it..itd be slow as hell..it is possible, but hard as hell. U dont have aol do u?

Cameron221 · 1st October 2002, 01:49

Xbox + 56k = shit

henry3k56 · 1st October 2002, 01:51

See my rendition of this crappy network.

raydream · 1st October 2002, 01:56

ph33r the most powerful computer in teh werld

Some1 · 1st October 2002, 01:56

Quote:

ps: lamers who tell me just to buy some online PC game will be put on my ignore list. I have my reasons for buying an Xbox.

and what about lamers that tell you to get a GameCube instead of an X-box???

Cheezychops · 1st October 2002, 02:04

my network

Cameron221 · 1st October 2002, 02:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Some1

and what about lamers that tell you to get a GameCube instead of an X-box???

the same: Bite my ass.

Some1 · 1st October 2002, 03:03

Make me.

dlinkwit27 · 1st October 2002, 03:31

My network

[Internet] -- [Cable Modem] --=10/100 Ethernet Card=--[My computer]

sexy

binary hero · 1st October 2002, 09:33

/me doesn't think mr 75mHz has the right cable connecting his PC's.
/me thinks he will need a crossover cable.

Atmo · 1st October 2002, 09:39

Quote:

Originally posted by binary hero
/me doesn't think mr 75mHz has the right cable connecting his PC's.
/me thinks he will need a crossover cable.

Agreed. Its either that or windows isnt configured corectly. ICS is piss easy with WinXP, not sure how hard it is to set up on 98/ME.

I've got ICS set up on my machine so i can share it with my parents laptop. 28k is really slow when shared, but it works.

binary hero · 1st October 2002, 11:04

heh. i share 33k too.

timmyjoe42 · 1st October 2002, 18:45

My PC is given an IP address by my router.
How do I get the people on the internet to be able to see me?
How do I assign myself a static IP address?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Thanks,
Tim

Cameron221 · 1st October 2002, 21:14

Call your ISP and purchase a new IP per computer. They're about 5-10 bucks each.

ctn|chrisw · 1st October 2002, 22:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Cameron221
Call your ISP and purchase a new IP per computer. They're about 5-10 bucks each.

He has a reuter! dont waste teh monie! You dont need a static- just set the puter u want to be seen by teh intarweb in teh routers settings and then download the free app from http://www.no-ip.com and sign up for a free account.

timmyjoe42 · 1st October 2002, 22:15

I'll try that in the a.m.!

Spiffed · 1st October 2002, 23:46

thinks maybe cmw may have just given the most cryptic bloody description on the planet

the reason people can't see you is because your IP (your address on the net) points to your router

if you want to be seen behind the router you have 2 choices (and one pay money choice)

easy option: many routers include an option to make ANY pc on the network apear to the internet, basicly it maps EVERYTHING to one PC (this will need to be set in the router setting's most soft routers have a web-based config.. see your manual)

hard option (but safer and scaleable):
most ALL routers have the option to map certain ports to a certain PC. If your trying to play a certain game look up in the game manual (or website) what ports need to be mapped, then map them to the PC you wish to use (again, see router config, ask on their support forums if nessesary)

for both of the above options the machine in question would be referenced by your outside IP (not 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x or um... something..)

the third option is to pay your ISP for another IP address, and then tell the router to route ALL trafic to this IP to a certain port

either way, your going to need to figure out how to configure your router

other people have mentioned it in the thread, if you want an address as someone.sothing.com then you'll need to subscribe to a dynamic DNS service (notably http://dyndns.org , or if you have money to burn http://dhs.org )

keep in mind, all this advice comes from spiffed, not an IT pro or anything

prodangle · 2nd October 2002, 01:05

I recently bought one of these:
http://www.calumm.uklinux.net/media/...mg=hubbage.jpg

A homer simpson pint glass will make network sharing a million times simpler (a DSL router/DHCP server and hub might help too)
I've only got one IP between 4 PCs. Having only 1 IP has never caused me any problems. if anything I like it better that way (no PC can be contacted from the outside, without it sending a request first, unless I've specifically mapped a port to that PC). If I ever want to run a www server or whatever, I just map the port. The only thing that can get tricky is DCCs in IRC, but I hardly ever use IRC anyway.

Cameron221 · 2nd October 2002, 01:18

Quote:

Originally posted by cmw6988

He has a reuter! dont waste teh monie! You dont need a static- just set the puter u want to be seen by teh intarweb in teh routers settings and then download the free app from http://www.no-ip.com and sign up for a free account.

dar i dont want to goto hell like you.

Its an ethical issue.

30th September 2002, 20:51	#4
LawnGnome2005 Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 598	I find it easier to use a router to hook up two computers to the net. You just hook the modem to the router, the router to the computers, and insert a CD for the software. Dunno how to network a 56k tho. Last edited by LawnGnome2005; 30th September 2002 at 21:08.

30th September 2002, 20:58	#6
Cameron221 Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 955	broadband. yes, i know ill need an extra IP Address. "These are the rules. If you dont like them, I got others" [img]http://metallichica.***********/yribbon.gif[/img] #unreal2 chat: mIRC - irc://irc.**.org/unreal2

30th September 2002, 22:45	#8
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,380	Look's fine to me. "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

1st October 2002, 01:49	#10
Cameron221 Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 955	Xbox + 56k = shit "These are the rules. If you dont like them, I got others" [img]http://metallichica.***********/yribbon.gif[/img] #unreal2 chat: mIRC - irc://irc.**.org/unreal2

1st October 2002, 02:04	#14
Cheezychops Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 731	my network Last edited by Cheezychops; 15th June 2022 at 21:57.

30th September 2002, 20:47	#2
LawnGnome2005 Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 598	Perfect.

1st October 2002, 01:56	#12
raydream Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 867	ph33r the most powerful computer in teh werld

1st October 2002, 03:03	#16
Some1 Forum King Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 14th Street Posts: (-1)^ï¿½ Posts: 2,236	Make me.

1st October 2002, 03:31	#17
dlinkwit27 has no CT (Forum King) Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,238	My network [Internet] -- [Cable Modem] --=10/100 Ethernet Card=--[My computer] sexy ::Deviant Me::Last.fm::WhatPulse Stats::Folding @ Home

1st October 2002, 09:33	#18
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	/me doesn't think mr 75mHz has the right cable connecting his PC's. /me thinks he will need a crossover cable.

1st October 2002, 11:04	#20
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	heh. i share 33k too.

1st October 2002, 18:45	#21
timmyjoe42 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 24	sharing thru a router My PC is given an IP address by my router. How do I get the people on the internet to be able to see me? How do I assign myself a static IP address? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thanks, Tim

1st October 2002, 21:14	#22
Cameron221 Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 955	Call your ISP and purchase a new IP per computer. They're about 5-10 bucks each. "These are the rules. If you dont like them, I got others" [img]http://metallichica.***********/yribbon.gif[/img] #unreal2 chat: mIRC - irc://irc.**.org/unreal2

1st October 2002, 22:15	#24
timmyjoe42 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 24	thanks I'll try that in the a.m.!

1st October 2002, 23:46	#25
Spiffed Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Milliways Posts: 921	thinks maybe cmw may have just given the most cryptic bloody description on the planet the reason people can't see you is because your IP (your address on the net) points to your router if you want to be seen behind the router you have 2 choices (and one pay money choice) easy option: many routers include an option to make ANY pc on the network apear to the internet, basicly it maps EVERYTHING to one PC (this will need to be set in the router setting's most soft routers have a web-based config.. see your manual) hard option (but safer and scaleable): most ALL routers have the option to map certain ports to a certain PC. If your trying to play a certain game look up in the game manual (or website) what ports need to be mapped, then map them to the PC you wish to use (again, see router config, ask on their support forums if nessesary) for both of the above options the machine in question would be referenced by your outside IP (not 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x or um... something..) the third option is to pay your ISP for another IP address, and then tell the router to route ALL trafic to this IP to a certain port either way, your going to need to figure out how to configure your router other people have mentioned it in the thread, if you want an address as someone.sothing.com then you'll need to subscribe to a dynamic DNS service (notably http://dyndns.org , or if you have money to burn http://dhs.org ) keep in mind, all this advice comes from spiffed, not an IT pro or anything the road to enlightenment is filled with much dark chat, stat, and be merry The best of IRC PM's

2nd October 2002, 01:05	#26
prodangle Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Scotland Posts: 718	I recently bought one of these: http://www.calumm.uklinux.net/media/...mg=hubbage.jpg A homer simpson pint glass will make network sharing a million times simpler (a DSL router/DHCP server and hub might help too) I've only got one IP between 4 PCs. Having only 1 IP has never caused me any problems. if anything I like it better that way (no PC can be contacted from the outside, without it sending a request first, unless I've specifically mapped a port to that PC). If I ever want to run a www server or whatever, I just map the port. The only thing that can get tricky is DCCs in IRC, but I hardly ever use IRC anyway. Last edited by prodangle; 2nd October 2002 at 01:23.

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