Old 19th May 2004, 14:57   #121
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If they want it to improve the product, why does each person get their own unique ID? I've never understood how that could help. I don't do product development though.
Not each person. Each COPY of Winamp. I can think of a few reasons why they'd want unique ids, but these would just be guesses so I won't bring them up.
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Note for the sheep: I ask because I'm interested, not because I think my every move is being watched.

His style certainly was stubborn but I think he raised a number of interesting points, most of which were above the posters here who were more content to stand behind DJ Egg and attack him, rather than discuss his points.
This is due to the fact that his most of points weren't based on facts, but FUD. People (especially here) tend to jump on someone when they refuse to concede pure facts.
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Having re-read the whole dicussion I think that AdAware/SpyBot should probably flag Winamp as an "Interesting" if the box remains ticked, if only so people are aware of the implications of that option (Oh no, where's my tinfoil hat!)
And yet the author's of each of those independent programs have NOT done this. Perhaps it is (likely) because they have determined that Winamp does not fall under their definition of spyware/adware/malware. It's not as though Winamp were a new or mostly unknown program who's existance has somehow avoided the radar screens of the spyware remover class of programs.
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It's an interesting discussion. I'm still a diehard Winamp fan though
It's only interesting in that some people won't recognize the difference between facts and FUD.

BTW, the AOL icon on install has been removed (again) in the latest builds.

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Old 20th May 2004, 00:58   #122
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Still Winamp is owned by AOL and they can do things with the annonomys ussage statistics. I don't know what kind of things can be done with annonomys statistics but eh, who knows? It kinda sucks that this info just sits in a d-base not being looked at to see how people use the software.

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Old 23rd May 2004, 23:18   #123
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The next thing AOL needs to hire is a statician to see what they can do to improve their business.

One idea would be to look at all of the information they have from their internet properties they currently own like Winamp.

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Old 8th July 2004, 02:52   #124
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i'm missing one thing here.
that is:

* winamp assigns a GUID _if_ allowed to do so
* winamp collects some data and sends it out to some server _if_ allowed to do so, along with the GUID
* the server _can_ grab the peer-IP of that connection and store the data along with the data and datetime into some nice database
* the forum-server (web-server) _can_ also store the IP along with a forum's login whenever someone logs in or connects "logged in via cookie"
* some of us people _do_ actually have a static IP (i do)
* the court _can_ force any company (including AOL and your ISP) to hand out whatever data they have collected if it decides to do so for whatever reason
* then you _will_ have been identified just about as personal as it can get

so. did i make a mistake there?
i don't want to imply anything like that is actually happening - i'm just pointing out possibilities...

got the point?
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Old 8th July 2004, 03:37   #125
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1. Yes. %windows%\winamp.ini stores the registration info.
Delete the relevant lines if you wish...

Note: The following lines need to remain intact,
otherwise Winamp will attempt to register itself again next time you reopen it.

[WinampReg]
IsFirstInst=0
NeedReg=0

Also note that it's been like this for years, even before aol acquired nullsoft back in 1999.

2. a) Yes. If you don't uncheck "allow anonymous usage statistics" in Prefs.
b) No. Anonymous means anonymous.

3. Not sure about grabbing the ip. Don't think so.
Then it wouldn't be anonymous...

4. Yes. That is a feature of Jelsoft vBulletin software, as used by thousands of websites on the internet.
Not sure if regular members can see it or not,
but next to: quick link | report this post...
it says: IP: Logged

Moderators and Administrators can click this link to see the poster's IP.
This is required if we need to report you to your ISP for spam/abuse,
or if we need to permanently ban you for breaking rules.

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Old 8th July 2004, 08:55   #126
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Offtopic but interesting: Maddox has banned an entire ISP area because someone from that area sent him a completely moronic e-mail. People browsing from that area were directed to a page saying why they couldn't view the maddox site and who was responsible (with their e-mail address).

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Old 8th July 2004, 10:18   #127
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@DJ Egg:

thanks for the rahter neutral answer to my post, i was already preparing to get some dumb comments; which was unnecessary as i see now

as to 5-7 and my entire last post in this thread, i'm actually not concerned about my privacy when using winamp.
i just did it find confusing to read a numerous times in this thread that winamp/nullsoft could not do some things; which kind-of puzzeled me because i do see the possibility in theory which i just wanted to point out.

means to me that the phrase "winamp/nullsoft can't" should be changed to "winamp/nullsoft doesn't" - nothing more, nothing less

so. i hope i didn't annoy too much people here with this; for my part i consider the topic closed.

have a nice day,

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Old 12th January 2005, 11:10   #128
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still... theres absolutely no sign of winamp 2.5 THAT I NEED!
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Old 12th January 2005, 11:16   #129
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No, and there never fucking will be on this site, get used to it, if you insist on having a bug ridden, featureless, unsecure copy of winamp, then get one from

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Old 12th January 2005, 12:00   #130
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still... theres absolutely no sign of winamp 2.5 THAT I NEED!
why on earth would you want 2.5, that version was good at the time but if you insist on using an old version then go for 2.8x or 2.9x (2.9x is the minimum i suggest) but hey who cares

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Old 12th January 2005, 12:08   #131
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As has been stated many times before, but some people seem to have IQs equal to their titles.
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Old 13th January 2005, 03:02   #132
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Old 13th January 2005, 18:55   #133
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there was a time when asking for 2.5 or the other pre .9 leak was bannable. i say we bring that rule back.
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Old 13th January 2005, 19:06   #134
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sounds good to me lol!

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Old 13th January 2005, 20:21   #135
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Old 13th January 2005, 20:50   #136
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although not retroactively....
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Old 22nd February 2005, 20:31   #138
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Why don't you add the Winamp2.91 to the downloads and many people would be happy?
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Old 29th September 2005, 17:24   #142
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If the guid, tuid whatever sends anonymous info, then how does sending it help winamp to determine what I "might" like in the future? I mean, if it's anonymous, then how does winamp send specific info back to me?
And for that matter, I don't see how winamp's knowing of what I'm currently listening to, is going to "help" me find more of that same.
What I'm listening to right now may not be what I want to listen to in the future.

I don't need suggestions that come from computer program that tracks genres and then sends those "suggestions" to me. If I want to hear something, I will search for it, click it and listen to it. What winamp's and other tracking bullshit is for is nothing more than for tracking. Tracking does not help ME at all. So please tell me, how does tracking really help ME.

If winamp really wanted to be trustworthy, they would have all the options turned off be default, with a one-time pop-up message on installation that describes how these "services" can be turned on to make my listening, searching, and finding oh so easier and heavenly.

And then there is the bogus statements that sending anonymous statistics helps the winamp developers. Well, if that's true, then why don't the developers just track themselves and everybody else that works at winamp? Isn't that what "Development" is about? You don't need stats from users to "help" you create a better program. If you did, there would be no option, it would be enabled by default with no option to turn it off. So quit with the spin.
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Old 29th September 2005, 19:14   #143
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Old 29th September 2005, 19:53   #144
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you just makeing random shit up?
sorry, didn't mean to rant. bad folical day. my suggestion stands though, about the defaults. Just trying to help.
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Old 29th September 2005, 22:16   #146
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you just makeing random shit up?
i have no idea either, im still confussed
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sorry, didn't mean to rant. bad folical day. my suggestion stands though, about the defaults. Just trying to help.

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Old 2nd October 2005, 01:53   #148
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Old 2nd October 2005, 02:51   #149
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If I remember right there have been several security issues that have been addressed since Winamp 2 turned into Winamp 5. Those old versions might even be kinda dangerous to use.

So whether Winamp has a little spyware in it or not, the alternatives might not be so cool.

I've always had confidence in it and never any reason to suspect malware. This always has seemed to be a security conscious product.

We can't say the same thing for Realplayer.
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To all people who know German language and want to download WA 2.91 with some skins, plugins etc. please go to:

http://classic.winamp.de.vu . My own website. I found the best skins and plugins. And wrote a history of Winamp.

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