Old 8th September 2008, 14:31   #1
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Shoutcast Relaunch -post Here

In this thread we discuss the changes to SHOUTcast.com
and winamps SHOUTcast tv and radio list.
Please try to stay calm and post any bugs that you find
or any features the new changes are missing.



[updated 13th sept 2008]
Thread relocated to a new forum dedicated to
the new shoutcast.com design and all the new goodies.

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Old 8th September 2008, 16:25   #2
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Old 8th September 2008, 23:16   #3
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Re: Shoutcast Relaunch -post Here

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First i removed the origonal thread because it contained
links to an SC dev server WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED!.
So I wasn't supposed to bookmark that, huh?

Don't worry, I won't let the kittehs out of the bag simply because I like to piss PETA off.

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Old 10th September 2008, 23:09   #4
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Old 11th September 2008, 05:44   #5
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All,

We want to share with you some exciting news! In case you are not already aware, we launched a totally new redesigned website today: http://www.shoutcast.com/

We grew a little tired of the circa-1999 website so we decided to give it a top-to-bottom redesign. Some highlights of what we launched today are better search options, new dynamic content module, top stations listed by genres providing single-click access to different radio stations every time you visit, new SHOUTcast blog, skinning of the website.

This is only the first step in an active, on-going effort to improve the SHOUTcast Radio experience for our broadcasters and listeners. Some things that are in development are more features to the website, improvements to the broadcaster tools and better, more robust APIs. Already with the new site, we have made some improvements to the search functionality so that users can find your broadcast more easily.

We also launched the SHOUTcast Radio widget, which will allow you and your listeners to enjoy your broadcast from popular social networking sites like Bebo, MySpace, Facebook etc. Now your listeners can copy the widget from your websites and embed your station in their profiles or blogs!

- Grab the SHOUTcast Radio Widget for your own site or integrate it into popular social networking sites such as Bebo, Facebook and MySpace: Click here.
- Grab the SHOUTcast Radio toolbar for your browser - Customize your web browser to include easy access to your favorite SHOUTcast Radio stations. For the SHOUTcast Radio toolbar that you can download to work in conjunction with your web browser: Click Here.

So check it out - play around with the widgets and the site and let us know what ya think! You can also check out the new SHOUTcast Blog and join in the conversation there: http://blog.shoutcast.com/

Rock on!
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Old 11th September 2008, 08:50   #6
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Looks alot better guys nice work
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Old 11th September 2008, 12:56   #7
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Old 11th September 2008, 13:13   #8
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Awesome!
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Old 11th September 2008, 15:07   #9
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ShoutCast Radio Listing Messed Up HELP!

ShoutCast Radio Listing Messed Up HELP!
All of a sudden my stations listing has gone web page based which is retarded because it's harder to read and lists literally 1000's of pages when before it was just one page you scrolled.

I want the old ShoutCast Radio Listing back...how do I do that???
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http://classic.shoutcast.com

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Old 11th September 2008, 15:13   #11
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NOOOOOO! I'm talking that they changed it INSIDE my Winamp stand alone software...not the Winamp web site.
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Old 11th September 2008, 15:17   #12
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its the same thing threads merged**

And btw i think the new winamp internal shoutcast list is
really nice i hated the old one.

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Old 11th September 2008, 15:18   #13
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Look It's web bassed INSIDE my Winamp

It's inside my Winamp.
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i know what you are talking about and the only way to
get an old style list is via http://classic.shoutcast.com
from now on.

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How do you get the old clean view of ShoutCast Radio???
Otherwise I'm uninstalling.
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Old 11th September 2008, 15:22   #16
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i know what you are talking about and the only way to get an old style list is via http://classic.shoutcast.com from now on.

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How do you get the old clean view of ShoutCast Radio???
Otherwise I'm uninstalling.
Hi - regarding the listing of SHOUTcast within Winamp. The new listing is very clean and gives better results. Unfortunately you can not get back to the old list version within Winamp.

Thanks for the feedback!
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its going to be a busy day faisal please stick around
i will redirect all questions to this thread.

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Suggestion: A feature somewhere on the page to promote the stations that are not the most popular. Perhaps a box that picks a random station and displays the information or something. It would be nice to give the stations that aren't saturated with listeners an opportunity to find out about us.

I do like the new updated layout, and the additional API's. Very nice!

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Suggestion: A feature somewhere on the page to promote the stations that are not the most popular. Perhaps a box that picks a random station and displays the information or something. It would be nice to give the stations that aren't saturated with listeners an opportunity to find out about us.

I do like the new updated layout, and the additional API's. Very nice!
Absolutely! Thats been one of our main goals of this new release. You will notice that we have a new area on the left rail of the site called "Top Stations by Genre." That area refreshes on each page reload and the stations and genres that show up there are totally random, and not based on listener count. We will be adding more functionality to the site that will properly promote the variety and depth of stations that we have on SHOUTcast in the coming months!

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Old 11th September 2008, 15:47   #21
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Hi - regarding the listing of SHOUTcast within Winamp. The new listing is very clean and gives better results. Unfortunately you can not get back to the old list version within Winamp.

Thanks for the feedback!
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SC_faisal, You've GOT to be KIDDING me...right?
This new thing is total crap.
Before you can scroll ONE page to find a station now you have to click over and over and over and over, there is no option to VIEW ALL this is totally retarded .

THANK YOU ALL FOR MESSING UP MY WINAMP.
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Old 11th September 2008, 15:50   #22
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Hi - regarding the listing of SHOUTcast within Winamp. The new listing is very clean ...
In YOUR opinion.

Personally, I hate it.

Before, the style of the listing used to blend perfectly with whatever skin you'd chosen (fonts, colours, spacing etc. all matched your existing theme). Now it doesn't even fit the Media Library window properly, never mind blend with the existing theme. How is hard-coding a specific page width on a web page (preventing its inherent ability to resize) supposed to be an improvement?

Visually it may well look ok if you use the default Bento skin, but for anything else it clashes hideously and looks revolting. Functionally it is crap too, because you have to click endlessly to browse through content.

Sometimes it seems like the devs go out of their way to annoy their users.

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Unfortunately you can not get back to the old list version within Winamp.
Why does that not surprise me.
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Old 11th September 2008, 15:58   #23
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THANK YOU ALL FOR MESSING UP MY WINAMP.
I'M UNINSTALLING NOW...SEE YA!
Thanks for your feedback and patience with the relaunch
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How do you get the old clean view of ShoutCast Radio???
Otherwise I'm uninstalling.
What a whiny bitch after all this hard work they put in, just ignore him.

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love the reduction of the useful part of the page to 8% of the field view, 25-character limits on station name and now playing, and 50% of the page dedicated to ads!!! who knew i was incontinent? thanks, shoutcast!

i suppose those parts were inevitable, but i am glad to see you guys breathing some life into the old girl. did you really have to use tomcat, though?
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I have to agree with maxshadow and oomingmak here. Sorry.
Please bring back an option to use the previous Winamp client version as well. Or at least make it so it's not limited to 10 stations per page. Thanks.
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Im sure the dev team is addressing the issue
i think just adding a link/config setting to
display the old list is a wise idea.

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love the reduction of the useful part of the page to 8% of the field view, 25-character limits on station name and now playing, and 50% of the page dedicated to ads!!! who knew i was incontinent? thanks, shoutcast!

i suppose those parts were inevitable, but i am glad to see you guys breathing some life into the old girl. did you really have to use tomcat, though?
lol i suppose you have reason / good cause to complain lol,

good to see your still lurking
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Old 11th September 2008, 17:41   #29
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tunein-station.pls redirection

Hi,

www shoutcast com/sbin/tunein-station.pls is now being redirected to yp.shoutcast.com

This is generating HTTP 302 Moved Temporarily and is causing problems for some of my applications.

Is this really temporary?

Will you change it back please?

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http://classic.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls

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I have to agree Tom, one of my biggest complaints about the new site is the inability to view the name of the whole station or song name until you click the "More" button, I understand that it makes the YP more compact but it's a tiring process to have to keep clicking through "More" buttons in order to view what actual song is playing, bit-rate, etc. Plus, no AIM or ICQ fields anymore? This should have been priority to be listed since it's already apart of the current DSP.

Also, something needs to be done with how many stations can be listed at once on a page, I remember with the old YP you were able to list up to 100 stations at once, having to scroll through endless amounts of pages is tiring as well, and will make it harder for smaller stations to be heard due to the fact that you have to go to the 18th page of a genre to find smaller stations, and most people will get tired of looking through listings by the 5th page with how the new YP is set up.

As far as the WINAMP internal SHOUTcast listing, you should just make an option to view "Classic SHOUTcast Listing", just like the main site has the option to view the old YP, that shouldn't be too hard at all.

I'm very happy SHOUTcast is moving forward with good progress, but certain issues being resolved will help alot of broadcasters out, especially with the YP. As much as I love the new YP design, the widget and the toolbar, I think we need to be more concerned in the long run with how the broadcasting software is going to play in with the relaunch. I know alot of people are disgruntled with how things are turning out, but you also have to understand the word "BETA" underneath the new logo, this is only testing at this point, and hopefully the dev team adresses the issues and corrects them.
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http://classic.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls
Is there a reason why you need to do the redirect from www to yp for the pls file?

It's causing a lot of problems for me.

Is it temporary or permanent?

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That is the classic system,there is now a new fresh
improved one in its place

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it's all tag's fault i'm still here! blame him!

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Oy.

Is there any way that you could get rid of the redirect on pls link for say a week until I have a chance to fix things?
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keep the faith, kids.

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Oy.

Is there any way that you could get rid of the redirect on pls link for say a week until I have a chance to fix things?
thats a great way to ask for things to get changed
speaking to aol now telling them to bring the
hole thing down until you are ready.

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Getting back to the topic at hand - I would like to put in my 2 cents that I think the new interface is really AWFUL. I hate the fact that I have to hit the next link to scroll page after page. I can't sort by column. I'm always accidently clicking on a link thinking I'm going to play a song but a stupid browser comes up. The use of screen real-estate is completely tragic and and wasteful.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give an option to go back to the original listing format.
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there is an option at the top of the page it says

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Miss your old SHOUTcast Radio? Classic SHOUTcast Radio 1.0
if you refer to winamp be patient

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Re: tunein-station.pls redirection

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Hi,

www shoutcast com/sbin/tunein-station.pls is now being redirected to yp.shoutcast.com

This is generating HTTP 302 Moved Temporarily and is causing problems for some of my applications.

Is this really temporary?

Will you change it back please?

Regards,

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yes this is temporary. We're working on a fix.

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