Old 20th August 2001, 00:45   #1
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winamp for pocketpc, something i need.

right now i'm using windows media player on my cassiopeia, and:

-its' big
-it's bugggy
-it's functionality-free
-and the skins suck.

especially because its a pocket pc, i need a small, stable program like winamp to play mp3's on.
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hmmm, winamp conquering all formats now
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Let me just say. . . What the hell?

How could you possibly have enough memory to justify installing Winamp on a PocketPC? Don't the PocketPCs' memory max out at 32 megs? That's only about 8 songs, and not even CD quality.
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Let me just say. . . What the hell?

How could you possibly have enough memory to justify installing Winamp on a PocketPC? Don't the PocketPCs' memory max out at 32 megs? That's only about 8 songs, and not even CD quality.
yeah man, get a mp3 player if you wanna listen to tunes on the go, unless your pocket pc has flash cards or whatever

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Old 20th August 2001, 14:33   #5
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if the only reason /not/ to make a winamp for pocket pc is the available memory, then look:

it has 16 megs onboard + a 64 meg MMC card, so it actually has more mem than my old Rio had.

i reencode the songs at fairly low bitrate (WMP7 interfaces with the pocketpc, so it transcodes them at whatever bitrate you want), so i can get 40 or so songs on the thing.
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Old 20th August 2001, 14:42   #6
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Hmm, I guess it would be possible. I'll bet there are some media players available for the PocketPC already, though. I'm sure they aren't as good as Winamp, but they've got to be better than WMP.
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I think it would be a good idea to make a winamp similar to winamp from one of the 1.x versions. I don't think, however, that it would really become useful until you could have a lot more memory. I have a palm m105, which I know only has 8MB RAM, but even for the larger ones, its not practical at the moment.

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maybe it will be more pratical in a couple years, those tiny dataplay optical drives (matchbook size) hold now 500mb, and they propose a 3gb disc in 2-3 years.
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There is a 1gb optical drive by IBM and i think i read somewhere about a 5gig coming soon. could be wrong but i know the 1gb is right, only £300ish.
if you made winamp for pocket pc what features would you take out? support for millions of formats, avs and spectrum analyzer, support for skins?
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allrighty, well i guess i'll take that as a "no"

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hmm it will be possible when we get quantum computers!!!!! YEAH COMPUTERS SUPER TINY THAT ARE MILLIONS OF TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN THE COMPUTERS WE HAVE!!

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Yeah, but if you try to interpret the output from a quantum computer, then they don't mean anything. Or something like that.
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Ya we could get those, although we'd probably be dead before they come and WinAmp (will hopefully not) be dead by then.

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Well, the new Pocket PC's are all based on the same CPU family, so it should be a lot easier to develop for them now. They also have plenty of power to decode MP3's with, so that's not a problem either. Space? When you can have two expansion cards at once in a couple of the new ones and one in about all the rest, space is no longer an issue. Just slap a 1 GB IBM Microdrive in there and you're good to go, or else spend $91 on a 256MB CompactFlash memory card.

So why is the PocketPC still a mediocre music playing platform at best? The piece-of-sh*t media player is the best software available for playing MP3's, and it just won't do. Heck, this thing chokes on tons of different MP3's, including some VBR files encoded with Lame.

There are no other viable MP3 players that I have found so far.

1 million iPaqs sold so far, and the new generation that are binary compatible are now taking off... has to be enough of a market for Winamp! I mean how hard can it be to port to the PocketPC, I'm sure Microsoft is making it as easy as possible?

I don't want to have to go buy another box to carry around when I already haul around a Pocket PC, and when all I need is decent software to make use of it.

Arrgh.
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I'm sure Microsoft is making it as easy as possible?
what rock have you been living under?
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hmm it will be possible when we get quantum computers!!!!! YEAH COMPUTERS SUPER TINY THAT ARE MILLIONS OF TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN THE COMPUTERS WE HAVE!!

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i want winamp to go mobile

yeah,

i ordered an ipaq just some days before,
i'll be shipped in january (germany, of course).

i'm just waiting for an mp3 player for this
genius thing... hopefully the winamp team
will buy an ipaq too... i guess then they
will know what we all think about
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Why not just buy an MP3 player if that's what you want? It still seems like a waste of time trying to use a PocketPC for that.

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Old 18th December 2001, 14:13   #19
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no

no, not at all.

i think an ipaq is at first to work with,
BUT i.e., on the way to my girlfriend
(i'm student in IT, working at a software
company and my girlfriend lives 200 miles
far away) i usually use my MD-player.

but: imagine I have my ipaq and my md-player.
why have TWO devices when ONE could fit it?

i think the guys which are against an winamp
on pocket pc are stupid or something like that.

would it hurt you to BE ABLE to use it?
no? then, i don't understand your opinion.
just say: it does not interest me. but you
seem to be AGAINST it, and THAT's it,
what distrubs me.
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Yes, I'm against it. If the Nullsoft team wastes time imlementing Winamp for the PocketPC, then they have less time to implement new bug fixes and optimizations for Winamp 2 and Winamp 3. They don't have an unlimitted amount of time, I'd rather that they not waste it on a fairly worthless product.

The MD player is a far better media device than the PocketPC, anyway. I have a cell phone and a Handspring Visor, but I don't want to have the two combined. It's not worth the extra effort and cost. I'll just carry both. Problem solved.

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There is a 1gb optical drive by IBM and i think i read somewhere about a 5gig coming soon.
It's not optical.
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It's not optical.
And it's $499.

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@george:

well, i think the nullsoft team has to decide on
it's own. and that's just the good thing at it.

and when i think of this, i'm very happy you're
not a team-member.

i'm winamp on windows user, and i use it very often.
but: NONE version since 2.00 or something like it
had bugs which needed to be fixed in such a short amount
of time...

your opinion seems to me like the one of a small child:
"mum, dont go to bed with dad, i want to have you complete
for myself"...

ah well, pretty far at the morning. stay tuned, and let's
hope that nullsoft will develop an pocketpc version -
at low priority, on my account.
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And it's $499.
yes. but it's $499, and it does not matter if you want
it for your "hardware"-mp3player, or for your ipaq.
and the other mp3-players, which does have memory cards
or internal memory, have as much mem as an ipaq (64 mb),
or an ipaq with memory cards (128 mb - $70)...

well, not a pretty good argument
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I don't mind if Nullsoft want to work on other things. I'd just prefer it if they wouldn't work on stuff I consider to be completely worthless. Anyway, it's a moot point.

I didn't understand what your second post was about, so I can't acknowledge or refute it.

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i thought you wanted to say, that $499 for one gig
is pretty much. i wanted to acknowledge, BUT its the
same price, if you buy it for mp3 player or for pocket pc.

just the same.
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No, I wasn't saying that it was overpriced. I was just correcting the price given earlier. The drive is the size of a US quarter. I'd call ~$500 a pretty good price, for now.

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Let me just say. . . What the hell?

How could you possibly have enough memory to justify installing Winamp on a PocketPC? Don't the PocketPCs' memory max out at 32 megs? That's only about 8 songs, and not even CD quality.
I have now a ibm microdrive of 340 MB. and in the present there is a 5 GIGA PCMIA cards for pocketc pc.
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Man, that's a fairly old post. I didn't know that you could get non-flash memory expansions for the PocketPC when I said that.

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ok,

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Man, that's a fairly old post. I didn't know that you could get non-flash memory expansions for the PocketPC when I said that.
sorry, Im new in this site.
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Old 19th December 2001, 20:41   #31
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No problem. I was just telling you.

More memory does make it almost worthwhile but I still don't know. I suppose I mightfeel differently if I owned a PocketPC.

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No problem. I was just telling you.

More memory does make it almost worthwhile but I still don't know. I suppose I mightfeel differently if I owned a PocketPC.
In my case its realy good have lots of mp3, y had near 100 songs and only for US 110 (used). I am disappointed a little of the windows media player and I think that will be better with winamp.

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and because of i'm thinking exactly like that...
erm what i wanted to say? yeah, let's drink tea
and see...
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Old 24th December 2001, 07:15   #34
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CG is right man......

why to invent something already existing?
an MP3 player (which i have) is veeeeeeeery portable
and u can put it in a nice jog case (fabric)
and jog with it!!! (and jiggy)

its HD can contain 3/4 of your playlist (well, i guess)
and hear it in a much better quality!!!

plus.... its muuuuuuch cheaper than a pocket pc (true for today)
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Now why would it be useful to use winamp on pocket pc?????

Hm... Maybe because I have one installed in the car and got it hooked up to a 80 gig external harddrive with 40.000 songs? (I used to manage to private stations in Belgium so I like a broad collection of music). ...

Now I'm not just a freak of nature with this question. If you open up your mind you will see that pda's are the way to go. Of my Pocketpc I've got 40 Mb available and I've got a 1Gb microdrive on board to store a divx movie (yes that's right .. you can watch divx movies on pocket pc)... so why shouldn't there be a decent mp3 player ??????

Why would I need this... Well as I said. I'm using it in the car instead of a rio-player or all the other costly solutions. Why not just use an ipaq (I already take it everywhere) and hook it up to this hd when I get back to the car. All works great but I need to have the display (240x320 or in landscape mode) display more info like a convenient caraudio system. Also I want to use a crossfade function and it would be great to have something like 5 preset buttons for different moods....

Now catch my drift? My pocketpc is overclocked to 233 Mhz so it can easily handle the job (just watched the new nickelback video on my pocketpc :-). I'd be more than willing to pay for a pocketpc version. It should not be that hard to recode. Or if someone else has a decent mp3 player for the pocketpc, let me know. I've heard of hum player or something like that but their site's gone so ....

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Memory

Hi,
If you had any knowledge of a Pocket PC, you would know you can get things that are called "memory cards" for them....
Sorry, I had to say that. I have 128 MB card & have lots of room for MP3's. I say "Why not Winamp for Pocket PC?!?!?!". "Great idea!!!".
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Hi,
If you had any knowledge of a Pocket PC, you would know you can get things that are called "memory cards" for them....
Sorry, I had to say that. I have 128 MB card & have lots of room for MP3's. I say "Why not Winamp for Pocket PC?!?!?!". "Great idea!!!".
128meg will get you, at 128K, about 32 songs. That's only three CDs, assuming that the CDs are small. With 14+ track CDs, you'd only get two CDs plus a couple of extra tracks.

Now, consider that 128 megs of flash memory is not cheap. You'll probably pay at least $70. $70 is more than you'd pay for the CDs to start with, and this is still at a low quality. You simply cannot carry a great deal of MP3s around with you on flash memory. It's not cost efficient.

When you open your mouth and insult people, and you obviously haven't really thought it through, then you look like an ass. Spare us next time.

ipaqmp3:
The hard drive could be worthwhile. For things like that, it makes a lot more sense. Perhaps Nullsoft will work on it for you guys. I don't know. (I really don't care, either. )

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I wasn't trying to insult you. I have the Personal Jukebox which has a 10 Gig Hard Drive, so to say I don't know what I'm talking about is beyond your conversation. I was just trying to relay the point as follows:
If I have a unit & want to utilize it to it's full potential, why not do it? If you don't have one, then don't get one. LOL... If you don't want one, what do you care?
This forum is for people who have one & would simply like options other than MS Media Player, & winamp would be cool....
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brennan has said that he will port winamp 3 to ppc if someone sends him an i-paq. no i-paq, no port.

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