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zbowling
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FIX/HACK: Older Winamp and Shoutcast

For everyone with older versions Winamp out that can't stand shoutcast breaking, here is a work around I created to get shoutcast working again. I created this little page in PHP that queires the new XML format and transforms it to the old XML format using an XSLT sheet.

I've mapped sbin/tvlister.phtml and sbin/xmllister.phtml back to that php file on my server:
http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml
http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/xmllister.phtml

If you want to use my server, all you need to do is append this to your host file:
(in windows 2000-XP, its in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts )

code:
70.86.83.53 www.shoutcast.com


This overrides the your DNS server and forces 'www.shoutcast.com' to load somewhere else. All you need to do is restart your older Winamp and enjoy.

Just make sure you remove it before you switch back to the new winamp or want to visit shoutcast in your web browser.


I won't have this up for long. Its just something to help the community out while they can switch over.

However, if you are interested in how I did this, you can see the source here:
http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/playlist.php.txt
http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/playlist.xsl
http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/playlist-radio.xsl


Now someone needs to make this into a plug-in for the older users to download that looks that the new format for the older users.

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I updated the code. I now only pull the Top500 streams. If you want anything else, then you will have to host it yourself. Sorry guys. Traffic was just to much.

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Well that did not take long. Guess you know what nullsoft's heartburn is.

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I need testers to report to me if this is working for them. I'm using XMMS and Tunapie on Linux. I don't have a copy of Winamp around to know if everything is working ok. Please post if this works for you, or if not, please post.

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Site looks good. I tried getting your PHP scripts to work on Windoz. Eventually gave up because of the dependencies. I finally went an alternative route.

1) Made a local HTTP server that maps sbin to a local dir
2) Got the XML files for TV and Radio by making a http request against 'http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/newtvlister.phtml' and 'http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/newxml.phtml?search='
3) Modifing the windows hosts file to point to 127.0.0.1 (www.shoutcast.com) note that this conflicts with step 2
4) Ran XSLT transform using tools found at 'http://www.zlatkovic.com/pub/libxml/'
5) Save XML files outputted 'tvlister.phtml' and 'xmllister.phtml' in the sbin directory
6) Viola - It works Although the 4MB massive radio list frickin kills winamp :-)

I figure I can run the process manually or scripted once a day or so until the problem is fixed.

That was fun I must say. Goodnight all then.

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zbowling
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Originally posted by antihadron
Site looks good. I tried getting your PHP scripts to work on Windoz. Eventually gave up because of the dependencies. I finally went an alternative route.

1) Made a local HTTP server that maps sbin to a local dir
2) Got the XML files for TV and Radio by making a http request against 'http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/newtvlister.phtml' and 'http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/newxml.phtml?search='
3) Modifing the windows hosts file to point to 127.0.0.1 (www.shoutcast.com) note that this conflicts with step 2
4) Ran XSLT transform using tools found at 'http://www.zlatkovic.com/pub/libxml/'
5) Save XML files outputted 'tvlister.phtml' and 'xmllister.phtml' in the sbin directory
6) Viola - It works Although the 4MB massive radio list frickin kills winamp :-)

I figure I can run the process manually or scripted once a day or so until the problem is fixed.

That was fun I must say. Goodnight all then.



Thats Awesome!!! Thats dang near the same thing here :-P
You can use http://yp.shoutcast.com/ instead of www.shoutcast.com. It loads the same page.
hehehe

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Alright. I fixed the bug with Winamp 2.95 I got PMed about. Seems the xml parser in 2.x was a bit more picky then one would expect. Seems to work now.

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Tunapie works now works. The no_compress argument is correctly respected.

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byblo
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Thank you pal! I hate the new ml version and your work's helpful.

BTW, another solution to avoid to overriding your DNS editing the \hosts file (because I'd like to still be able to reach www.shoutcast.com normally), is instead simply to edit the ml\ml_win_media.ini

and replace the line :
url2=http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/xmllister.phtml?limit=%i&service=winamp2
by -->
url2=http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/xmllister.phtml?limit=%i&service=winamp2
;url2=http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/xmllister.phtml?limit=%i&service=winamp2


Same for tv :

url3=http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml?limit=%i&service=winamp2
by-->
url3=http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml?limit=%i&service=winamp2
;url3=http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml?limit=%i&service=winamp2


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Cool, it works great!
Just two points, first, I see if I click refresh, it loads about 135 kB of data (in shoutcast TV section), I remember it was just about 17 kB or so until winamp guys disabled it. And second, you might implement the "you can only refresh once per minute" feature like the old shoutcast directory had to conserve your bandwidth if you say it's too much. Because now it refreshes everytime I click the refresh button.

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By the way, I'm curious about how much bandwidth does it use?

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zbowling
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Originally posted by byblo
BTW, another solution to avoid to overriding your DNS editing the \hosts file (because I'd like to still be able to reach www.shoutcast.com normally), is instead simply to edit the [b]ml\ml_win_media.ini



Awesome!! I'm not running Winamp personally, but thanks for the tip!!!

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zbowling
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I updated and commented the code.
http://www.polystimulus.com/sbin/playlist.php.txt

Enjoy!

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In Winamp 5.08 which I have installed there is no ml_win_media.ini file in the plugins\ml directory...

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By the way, I'm curious about how much bandwidth does it use?


Nothing to bad. For Top500 radio its 173KB, and TV is 132KB if your client cannot compress. Since everything that doesn't pass no_compress in the params gets compressed, its about 1/5 for bandwidth that I'm using.

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zbowling: looks like you have some syntax error in your script :-)
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/sbin/tvlister.phtml on line 1

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quote:
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In Winamp 5.08 which I have installed there is no ml_win_media.ini file in the plugins\ml directory...
Yes I noticed : I've just updated the 5.11 to my own 5.12 into my bro comp and it seem that the file was existing on 5.11 but isn't used a lot(just saw one line..).

If you can, update to the 5.12 if you want to be able to edit the ini file. (5.13 is unknown to me, so I cannot say)

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quote:
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Yes I noticed : I've just updated the 5.11 to my own 5.12 into my bro comp and it seem that the file was existing on 5.11 but isn't used a lot(just saw one line..).

If you can, update to the 5.12 if you want to be able to edit the ini file. (5.13 is unknown to me, so I cannot say)



it looks like it's there since 5.1, I have checked a few older versions.

But at the moment there's a problem with zbowling's script :-)

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Ok. its back up and work.. that was odd. must of uploaded the wrong files.

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... Sorry guys. Traffic was just to much.
Any one else see the irony in that

UJ

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hehe.. it wasn't that the bandwidth was too much serving it up.. it was the blocking that happened pulling from shoutcast.com, running the xsl file, and saving into the cache and serving it up to the client..

lovely threading issues.. :-P

might switch to a static version with a cron job soon

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Looks like good news, the ML in old winamp version works again from shoutcast!!

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Any one else see the irony in that

UJ

just a bit of de ja vu going on there

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>might switch to a static version with a cron job soon

Sounds like a good idea. If you can handle the BW, it would be major cool to have more than 1000 streams on Shoutcast using the old ML. Are you throttling (1/hour/day?) the requests now? Thanks for your work on this stuff.

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hmm?

quote:
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Looks like good news, the ML in old winamp version works again from shoutcast!!


What do you mean? Still looks down to me.

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quote:
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>might switch to a static version with a cron job soon

Sounds like a good idea. If you can handle the BW, it would be major cool to have more than 1000 streams on Shoutcast using the old ML. Are you throttling (1/hour/day?) the requests now? Thanks for your work on this stuff.



Still not static yet. If I go static, might not be a need to limit requests. If I do that, it will clear out the last list they had when I tested.

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Re: hmm?

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What do you mean? Still looks down to me.


well I noticed that my own stream suddenly got many listeners (I had really small ammount of listeners since these issues started) so I have checked what's going on, disabled your workaround and I'm receiving the list from shoutcast... I don't see the "upgrade needed message"
Also the listings at winamp.com main page are working now (they had the same "upgrade needed" message there too)
the original url2 and url3 from the ini file which were discussed above work...

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Nope.. still down...

http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/xmllister.phtml

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quote:
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Nope.. still down...

http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/xmllister.phtml



this little parameter will do the trick:
http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/xmlli...service=winamp2

without it, it produces that upgrade needed message

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funny 82,000 listeners for 30 stations :-) Yep everone has migrated to 5.2

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hahaha nice. they did turn it back on for older users of winamp 2.x. I guess that is how they fixed the pages on the homepage and winamp.com/music :-P hahaha

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heh nice, sometimes it produces strange output, but there was normal directory just a few moments ago... not just 30 streams :-)

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...or was it still 30 streams? hmm you might be right that they have fixed the winamp.com this way :-)

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http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/xmllis...p;no_compress=1

Seems to be on on for everything....

BUT.. it only will only show up to Top 30.

I also seen a few PHP errors that popped up when a ton of requests hit. Seems xmlcache.php is being used but the cache file got locked a few times.

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We can just hope that they are still working on it and will enable it again for more than top 30...

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Whats Wrong with this? In TV i Only see yp to 30 TV Stations.

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NEW STANDALONE VERSION! (with source)

Ok everyone, I created a new standalone exe version!!! It's written in C# and provides a mini http server.

Make sure that you are not running any http server listening on port 80 before running this or it will fail on load!!!

http://www.polystimulus.com/newshout.zip


If you use the hostfile method, set your hostfile like above but set to:

code:
127.0.0.1 www.shoutcast.com



If you use the ml\ml_win_media.ini method, change the server to "http://localhost/".

Again no warrenty! Have Fun!!!

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Store it on da forum, too...

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Attachment: newshout.zip
This has been downloaded 2171 time(s).

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http://www.polystimulus.com/Code%20Monkey.mp3

Enjoy.. I'm done hacking for a few unless you guys want to send me money.

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Updated standalone. Silly typo bug.

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