Old 2nd April 2003, 23:58   #1
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Winamp 2.90 Final released silently ...

http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/...mp290_full.exe
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/.../winamp290_std
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/...mp290_lite.exe

Changelog:

* hot new default skin, done by none other than the evil robot turned good, Steve Gedikian
* added integrated full featured video support (NSV and DirectShow (AVI,ASf,MPEG,etc))
* added library (complete with media database, shoutcast listing, playlist editing,
CD listing, mass tag editting, plugin API for portable devices, and more!)
* updated Winamp's window docking code to be more robust/extensible
- made AVS dock use this new API
* updated PCM equalizer with code from 4Front Technologies/George Yohng. Quality is a lot better.
* updated equalizer default skin to show the true +12db/-12db range (the 20db was a veeery old typo)
* a ton of new WM_WA_IPC API calls.
- general purpose plugin window support
- extended metadata system for getting more than just title/length of items.
- lots of exposed features via IPC
* updated to PP's latest input and output plugins
* focus/Z order change on window close related bugfixes
* added track numbers and song lengths in HTML generated playlists
* removed all ATL code, shoved EXE size by 20kb
* added digital audio extraction in in_cdda.dll
(needs WNASPI32.DLL under Windows 9x/ME)
* added Alt+M shortcut for minimizing Winamp
* added Ctrl+(Keypad +)/Ctrl+(Keypad -) shortcuts in playlist editor for changing font size
* fixed stop after current menu item trash related bug
* added ultravox support for in_mp3
* made in_mp3 not display 'unknown X' for empty id3 tags
* installer uses leet new NSIS 2.0b3
* improvements to the setup process
* made the keep on screen code multimonitor smart and better
* fixed & error in tooltips in winamp and winampa's systray icons
* and TONS more! (new SDKs will be posted soon.)


Why did nobody announce it yet?
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Old 3rd April 2003, 00:00   #2
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New default skin looks nice ... a little bit to dark on the left though
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Old 3rd April 2003, 01:25   #3
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Originally posted by Sawg
Forgot the important one:
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/...full_noaod.exe ;-)

Thank's - I love that version


I'm not really satisfied with the new default skin ... looks somehow weird ... something bothers me about it and I don't know what. Looks at on first sight but doesn't when I look at it longer ...
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Old 3rd April 2003, 01:26   #4
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Re: Winamp 2.90 Final released silently ...

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Why did nobody announce it yet?
because its uploaded to the download server prior to announcement so when it is announced you can get your hands on it. although this time its up on the download server a bit early since site updates are done on thursdays. *shrug*

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Old 3rd April 2003, 01:31   #5
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@CraigF

I mostly wondered why this news was posted on ten different boards before it was posted here on the WINAMP forum ... kinda weird.

I'm still staring at the default skin ... it's just not right. I think I have to find a nice skins with full Winamp 2.90 support to replace it.
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Old 3rd April 2003, 01:48   #6
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What is *noaod mean?
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Old 3rd April 2003, 01:53   #7
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What is *noaod mean?

Same as full but without the AOL AD, i.e. the (optional) AOL Desktop Icon.
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Old 3rd April 2003, 07:51   #8
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Am I like the only one that doesn't see this new default skin?

I just downloaded the full install, and the skin looks to me JUST like all the other winamp skins.

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Old 3rd April 2003, 08:31   #9
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Ahh I was gonna say! I've been coding php for about 14 hours straight, but I know I'm not loosing my mind lmao

Thanks Sawg,
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Now where can we report the bugs

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Old 3rd April 2003, 12:51   #11
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Same as full but without the AOL AD, i.e. the (optional) AOL Desktop Icon.
ummm... i thought it meant AOL On Desktop?

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Old 3rd April 2003, 15:08   #12
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Since the default skin is the only one I use...
The changes may be minor and subtle, but they are appreciated.
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Old 3rd April 2003, 15:51   #13
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This version rocks!! super fast loading and well... EVERYTHING you might want eh eh eh.

Just a couple of bugs/sugestions/questions

Even if choosing "Read Titles on Load" if you add the files to a playlist from the Library Winamp only reads the ID3 tag info when playing the song. (it should display the ID3 info of all the songs added..)

maybe add a "check for winamp update" button?

Also is it possible to make winamp NOT show the number of the song displayed in the main player? The format is exactly how I set it except for that little number that appears on the main window.
i.e I set it to >>> [ %1 | %3 ] - %2 <<< but on winamp main window the title reads >>> number. [ %1 | %3 ] - %2 (time) <<<
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Old 3rd April 2003, 15:56   #14
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Prefs (Ctrl+P) -> Display
Uncheck: Show numbers in playlist

Can't reproduce the other problem though...
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Hmm . . . has anyone posted the change log from 2.90beta2 anywhere yet?
Or are we keeping that a secret too? hehe
The list of fixes is HUGE!

maybe I should get the ok from Justin first, or should I just post it here anyway?
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Old 3rd April 2003, 16:55   #15
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lpnsl, try a clean install of winamp. That helped me fixing some weird problems with the library, including the one you have.
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Old 3rd April 2003, 20:13   #16
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damn I love Winamp, who needs Windows Media Player now?

Admitedly when Winamp3 came out, WMP handled videos better, ie, smoother and less RAM using but with Winamp 2.90, WMP is no challenge, good on you Nullsoft
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Old 3rd April 2003, 23:35   #17
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I love the library able to find and play Internet radio with only two clicks
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Old 3rd April 2003, 23:42   #18
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Finally, now how about an applause for the Winamp Developers and their outstanding job?

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Old 3rd April 2003, 23:43   #19
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iwish that the media library would stay away from my playlist and rather use the list in the media library as the list ty play from without first moving it to the playlist. other then that it fixes everything that iteched about winamp3 but i kinda miss the wacky skins and the deeper bass sounds...
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Old 4th April 2003, 00:18   #20
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I am very happy to applaud Nullsoft for Winamp 2.90. I was afraid development to the 2.x series would halt with the release of WA3. And Wa2.9 is a damn great program.

There are still a few niggles. The new window docking engine seems to have a 'bug'. Usually when you move the main window, any docked windows move too. However, it seems sometimes now moving the main window does not result in the docked eq moving as well.

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Old 4th April 2003, 01:01   #21
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Cool...but I want to see the changelog from 2.90b2.

And, another shameless plug...you can download my WA2.x Sony MPFX3 skin (with skinned media library) here.


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My skins: Sony MPFX3-WA5 (Just for WA 5.x!!) and Sony MPFX3.
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Old 4th April 2003, 02:00   #22
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dougieha thats a nice skin....anyone know wheres the bugs report thread? if any??

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*wants those portable player examples that he was promised*

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Old 4th April 2003, 03:38   #24
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Bug:

EQualizer - Styles - Load - Default

Doesn't work.
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Old 4th April 2003, 03:58   #25
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It's official and lookin' good:

http://classic.winamp.com/

I suppose the documentation, overview and screenshots
will be updated soon.
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Old 4th April 2003, 04:18   #26
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My only tiny problem is that the buttons on the playlist with the default skin are not of the same colour of the buttons on the main player window. Other than that, I have no further complaints, only happy with 2.9.

The Internet Radio list has gotten me listening to internet radio, something that I normally never do.

2.9 is nearly perfect.
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Styles?
You mean: EQ -> Presets -> Load -> Default?
Works fine here, as long as you've saved a default first.
(presets -> save -> default)

@dougieha
I can post the changelog, but because no-one else has, I'm kinda worried...
I'll see if I can get the go-ahead first, and if so, I'll post it here.

@thepyr0x
ml_ipod and ml_njb (nomad) plugins are available for beta-testers, but I don't know if and when they'll be publically available. Again, I'll check for confirmation...
[edit]just got confirmation that they're both very alpha-ish, and ml_njb doesn't work too well.[/edit]

@skinme
I can't reproduce the docking problem.
Anyone else?

@hitmark
You know you can close the playlist window and just use the ML instead?

Did I miss anything?
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Old 4th April 2003, 13:24   #28
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Here's something I'd be happy to get some info on....
I've got this list of songs I listen to often. I go to the ML, click on Playlists that appear on the left pane and then click on "Import active (current) playlist". A playlist is created called "Imported Playlist". I then right click on this "Imported Playlist" and rename it. My question now is where can I find this Playlist in my hard drive? I search, and all I come up with is a playlist called plfAA8C.m3u in the ML subfolder. Assuming this is it, why is this not renamed? Why does it just appear renamed in ML and not actually in the c drive?

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djegg:
my problem with the media library is that i have to move any entry i click on to the playlist (thereby overwriting the existing one) every time i click on a entry. what i would like to see is that that winamp used the search result from media library as a playlist without acualy moving them to the playlist, as in i lcik on the top entry and ip continues down the list until i tell it something else...
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Prefs (Ctrl+P) -> Display
Uncheck: Show numbers in playlist

Can't reproduce the other problem though...
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Thx for the reply but I wasn't talking about the paylist, I was referring to the main winamp window (where you have the play, stop etc.) I have already unchecked the "Show numbers in the playlist" and that works fine. The problem is that the main window insists on displaying the number and time of the song. (I'll try to get a screenshot when I get home)

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try a clean install of winamp
I did do a clean install... I can try another one though
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Old 4th April 2003, 17:51   #31
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my need to update for wa2.81.
please help me!
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my need to update for wa2.81.
please help me!
Errr, well, update it then
http://classic.winamp.com/download

All flavours of WA2.9 available
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lpsnl -- not possible -- it is a feature.

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Old 4th April 2003, 21:37   #34
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thx skinme! thats what I though... oh well

Still a Great player!
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The Internet Radio list has gotten me listening to internet radio, something that I normally never do.
That's great to hear.
For those of us who've been streaming addicts for a long time,
the Internet Radio feature of the Media Library is a very cool idea.
Foobar just can't compete with Winamp for streaming audio!

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@dougieha
I can post the changelog, but because no-one else has, I'm kinda worried...
I'll see if I can get the go-ahead first, and if so, I'll post it here.
I'd quite like to see it too; just curious really (though if for some reason it can't be done, that's fair enough)
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That's great to hear.
For those of us who've been streaming addicts for a long time,
the Internet Radio feature of the Media Library is a very cool idea.
Foobar just can't compete with Winamp for streaming audio!
It can't? It still supports the same streaming radio nullsoft does. Of course it doesn't support the TV/Video Feeds that 2.9 supports. Not that it would need to, since it's purely for audiophiles.
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It can't? It still supports the same streaming radio nullsoft does. Of course it doesn't support the TV/Video Feeds that 2.9 supports. Not that it would need to, since it's purely for audiophiles.
Let me put it another way.
Until Foobar supports bookmarks for audio streams,
with the ability to add/delete/edit, a better way to start a stream,
and the display of stream info (station name, song titles, bitrate, etc)
then it can't compete with Winamp.
Maybe these features have been added since I quit using foobar.
I don't know.
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Um, just thought I should ask, but can the dev team please put the "Reset MIDI device on Start/Stop" back into the MIDI plugin. The MIDI port on the Ensoniq AudioPCI does not reset currectly so that option is needed badly. Oh, and before anybody says it, those "Reset GM,XG,GS" options do not help either.
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Re: Winamp 2.90 Final released silently ...

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Changelog:

* hot new default skin, done by none other than the evil robot turned good, Steve Gedikian
First off, there's no way you can call that a 'hot new' default skin. It's identical to the old one. The changes are so minor they may as well not have bothered, just look at the post of them side-by-side - the buttons are lighter and that's it. No improvement at all, and definitely not 'hot'.

But anyways, there's an annoying bug where Winamp keeps moving about the screen when I change my resolution or run certain other programs. So my question - Where can I get the old 2.82 version from now? I want to downgrade, I'm pretty sure the old version stayed in the top-left corner where I put it. It's getting real annoying having to move it back 5 times a day =/

Oh and why didn't they put in an opacity/transparency control? Is that just some cheap ploy to get us to use Winamp3 if we want transparency? I'm sure it could have been included in version 2 also.
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