Old 15th March 2005, 23:55   #41
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why am i still creating presets then? i love the suspense!

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Old 16th March 2005, 04:51   #42
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No I am not creating presets anymore. Too many other things to do, and not enough time to learn new stuff.
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Old 16th March 2005, 08:54   #43
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Yeah, that's true: if you want to make new cool/ eyecatching presets today, you must either have a high coding skill or own a trained feeling for style or so.

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Old 16th March 2005, 09:24   #44
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Old 16th March 2005, 09:58   #45
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yes of course, but what i wanted to say was that the basic coding skills became much more extensive since the beginning/during the last years. I mean the basic coding standard has risen a lot, so you can't impress anyone with a style that has been done 2-3 years ago.

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Old 16th March 2005, 10:33   #46
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i'll keep making presets until AVS dies completely, hell i don't care that much about what other people think of them, after all, they are just to compliment your music.

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Old 16th March 2005, 11:07   #47
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yeah, i'll also keep making presets. It's too much fun to quit it just because the others quit.
Also: AVS is not down jet. So let's get back to work people!!

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Old 16th March 2005, 14:04   #48
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well as a matter of fact.....i dont have too much coding skills or technical knowledge. But i make AVS presets? I do it because I like it and i'm a firm believer that AVS presets dont neccesarily need to code heavy......Tugg has proved that in the past. Sometimes good aestheics rule over techincal stuff.


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Old 16th March 2005, 14:12   #49
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well, actually i don't have great coding skills either but though am making presets.
I just meant that in the beginning of avs you could throw some simple-scopes/rings together and garnish it with a blitter feedback/water or a mirror if you really wanted to be cool to make a nice preset. But today only the fewest people think this is a great preset. Hope now it's clear what i meant at first?!

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Old 16th March 2005, 17:07   #50
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Isnt it funny how all the people who cant code for shit say "I dont really think coding is that important"

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Old 16th March 2005, 18:18   #51
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it's the same with all things you can't do properly:
or are you that concerned about extreme-rope-free-himalaya-climbing?

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Old 16th March 2005, 19:59   #52
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ok ok.......so i admit that i cant code but hey i still standby my comment that there still can be good non-technical presets................

but seriously, i think i can do a bit better than just "throw some simple-scopes/rings together and garnish it with a blitter feedback/water or a mirror "


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hey i didn't want to offend you ishan!!! Your presets are much better than that. Sorry if you thought that refered to you! Most artists today, make better presets than just throw together some simple stuff.
That example should only show, that the overall standard concerning presets has risen.

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Old 17th March 2005, 13:23   #55
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Old 17th March 2005, 13:26   #56
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The thing is people usually quote Tugg when they talk about good presets without lots of code, but actually most of Tuggs presets have a fair amount of code in them, okay it might be a bit 'creative' but its still higher than the average AVS'rs standard

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Old 17th March 2005, 13:42   #57
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ok i understood PAK. no use of arguing now. There are only a few of us left.....and even few (non-retired) of the so called 'Elite' group.
I jus hope AVS drags on a little while more...........


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Old 17th March 2005, 13:45   #58
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Old 17th March 2005, 13:54   #59
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However you might see it. I won't quit avs, just because someone says 'hey all presets made from now on have to be extremely code heavy'. That's stupid and contradicts the idea of visuals.

Mr_nudge put it very nicely: 'AVS is to compliment your music'. First of all presets should underline the music people are listening to, then they can be something like a techdemo or something. Of course you should keep an eye on style/art. Cause that "visual" part of your music should be just as great as those songs itself.

If you want to invent new techniques etc. why do you make it in avs? Most other programming languages are much more suitable.

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OMG! i sense feelings in PAK.

but really i wish the same too,AVS deserves more fame definately.


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I guess we all agree concerning that!
Perhaps we should try to provide more help to the basis, i mean to the noobs/newbies? As long as im concerned most noobs that came here during the last weeks haven't been that annoying. So why should we flame on them, when we actually want avs to become more famous?

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yeah. but how much more can we do than FAQ threads, Tutorials threads and the AVS troubleshooting sub-forum? Hell! theres even a Tips and tricks thread. All we want is people to have some common sense and look around a bit before asking quesions. if they look and still dont find help then we can gladly help them out.......Forums have become a safer place now, that Atero's not here.


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yeah, that's for sure. Perhaps the community pack will help us becoming more present. After all it's a pack made by a community that shares their interests.
Hmmm i guess we would need more advertising in general then

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Meh, It`s like arguing on how to ride a pike. No one tells you which is the most correct way of doing it... no one tell you if you should rid like granny, ride like normal person, or like trek driver... or if you should freetyle. Only the ammount of audience gives you rather subtle hint if you`re doing it well... or you simply suck at it.

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Old 17th March 2005, 15:34   #65
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Seriously if you think we flame noobs in these forums you obviously havent been to many forums before.

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uh? did i ever say that we flame noobs too much?

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guess our sarcastic friend referd to an earlier post made by me.

That flame-thing wasn't an offend anyway. It was more like a general statement: be polite to the new ones if you want a community to grow. I know that we are much more polite to noobs than other forums are.

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well we used to flame people before. Not now though, i guess we have become quite friendly, or maybe our patience levels have gone up.


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actually some special noobs deserved -nearly demanded- to got flamed, if you remember..
but yes those were the exception.

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I know that we are much more polite to noobs than other forums are.
What in the world are you smoking?! Gimme some of that!!!

Let this to be a warning/lesson to all newbs, WE HATE YOU! You have no business to visit this forum! Just get out of here as soon as you can! In fact don't even visit this place unless you know how to raytrace a beer bottle!!!

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Dear noobs!

Please be so kind and forgive our usually very nice friend tug this time! Actually he stands under psychological care, but now and then he forgets to take his pills. Then he can become that hateful and condescending as you see it now. The doctor said it has something to do with an oppressed childhood and some other negative experiences concerning interpersonal relations. I hope this helps you to be lenient towards him. Thank you for your patience!

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lol @ ^..^

raytrace a beer bottle? i wonder if i have seen such a preset ...............


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haven't seen one either! I'd say it's up to the prosecutor to show one

btw i was just wondering how/if we could get back to the topic, but i guess it has been exhaustively discussed by now

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Let this to be a warning/lesson to all newbs, WE HATE YOU! You have no business to visit this forum! Just get out of here as soon as you can! In fact don't even visit this place unless you know how to raytrace a beer bottle!!!
what? whats hard in raytracing a beer bottle? its only a union of 2 cylinders and a half sphere O_o. pff... every noob can do that these days...

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Ok i want to see that! You have 30 minutes to make such a preset!
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A texture mapped triagle model of a beer bottle, now THAT would be interesting it would.

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A texture mapped triagle model of a beer bottle, now THAT would be interesting it would.
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Master! Please teach me to use the AVS-force! So that i can handle the raytraced lightsword!

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