Old 18th January 2006, 16:06   #1
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Ten Billion Barrel


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The Nintendo tumbler puzzle, also known as the Ten Billion Barrel, is a mathematical puzzle in the style of Rubik's Cube. It was invented by Gunpei Yokoi of Nintendo and is covered by U.S. Patent 4,376,537.
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It's interesting to me.


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Old 18th January 2006, 16:32   #2
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http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=10 some more pictures here


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Old 18th January 2006, 17:18   #3
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4,509,264,634,875

4.5 trillion possitions, that's all? Sorry, but a 3x3x3 Rubik's Cube has more. Far more. It has 43,252,003,274,489,856,000. 43.2 quintillion.

Rubik's Revenge, a 4x4x4 cube has 7,401,196,841,564,901,869,874,093,974,498,574,336,000,000,000 possitions. That's uh... *counts* 7.4 duodecillion.

And the Professor's Cube? 5x5x5. It has 282,870,942,277,741,856,536,180,333,107,150,328,293,127,731,985,672,134,721,536,000,000,000,000,000 combinations. That's... *counts again* 282.87 unvigintillion.

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I'd love to see a puzzle with possibilities equal to the 43rd mersenne prime......VERY BIG PRIME NUMBER!!!!

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@JFASI: There are four balls each in five colors, 3 black balls, and five columns. You have to get the same-colored balls into columns, with the black ones at the top of the bigger columns. Take a look at the pics in the second link to see what it looks like solved.

@Gogitta: If the 4.5 trillion is such a small amount, then it should be a peice of cake for you, eh? What's your best time? I don't think it's the number of possible combinations that matters, so much as the difficulty inherent in the number of beads that move at once as you try to solve it, etc. "The Nintendo barrel only allows you to move no fewer than 10 balls at a time which makes it extremely difficult." Granted, the Rubik's cube also has a higher number in that category, but my point is it's not about numbers or about dificulty relative to the Rubik's cube (I can't solve that and I sure as heck can't solve this one), it's about the fact that it was designed by the same guy who designed the Game Boy.
@Widdy: Yeah, that frightened me too. I didn't know they named numbers that big. (Actually, there's a naming convention that allows them to name any possible number, or something)


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Old 18th January 2006, 23:55   #8
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Yeah, too bad there aren't any at all being sold for that price.
Lemme know if you see one.
edit: Err, okay there is one on ebay thatt may or may not sell for about that price. It's at roughly nine dollars now with 3 days left, though, so it may end up costing a bit more.


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Old 19th January 2006, 06:50   #12
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Well the the best time is 11.13 seconds for a 3x3x3 rubiks cube.

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I was determined to solve the Rubiks cube without reading the solution or getting a hint from any place.... I never did...
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Well the the best time is 11.13 seconds for a 3x3x3 rubiks cube.
True, but I was asking for his best time specifically, somewhat rhetorically, because he comes in here like he's some kind of puzzle wizard and the Tumbler Puzzle is so easy. I'm just joking around, though.


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My best Rubik's cube time: 2 minutes. I have a system to make certain changes to the cube I learned from my brother and dad.

[edit]The barrel looks interesting but I won't order one because I know I'd spend too much time on it while I'm supposed to do other things.

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My best Rubik's Cube time is 1 minute 42 seconds. Of course, it took me 35 seconds to go get the screwdriver out of my toolbox.



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I remember someone saing they "solved" a Rubik's Cube by peeling off all the stickers and putting them on matching sides.

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I remember someone saing they "solved" a Rubik's Cube by peeling off all the stickers and putting them on matching sides.

That's actually how I did it as a kid...


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Peeling and re-applying the stickers took too long for me. With a medium flathead screwdriver I could disassemble one entirely inside ten seconds, then reassemble (solved) in about 30 seconds. I used the same method to solve those little "slide-the-tile" puzzles.

Anyway, turning the layers of a Rubik's Cube around and around made my wrists tired, and when I was a teenager I needed to keep my wrists strong for.....um...other things.


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The barrel looks interesting but I won't order one because I know I'd spend too much time on it while I'm supposed to do other things.
I should buy one and try and solve it while teaching peoples, particularly if the students are all working and I'm sitting at the front with nothing to do...
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It's not that hard to solve a Rubik's cube in a low amount of time (under, say, 2 minutes) once you learn how. It took me maybe 10 hours of practice/reading to get to being able to do it in under 2 minutes (mostly "practice" was screwing around with the thing while I was waiting for something - I just carried the it with me).

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The limiting factor is my cube - it's original from the 80s and I have to keep it from falling apart while I'm working on it which slows me down a lot. I haven't found a new one anywhere and it's too expensive for me to order one over the net.

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You should be able to get a Rubik's Cube, or at least a knock-off, for pretty cheap on e-bay.

Also, this looks neat: http://www.brainstring.com/html/framex.html

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I leave the rubiks cube to my dad and if you think you guys are fast you should loook here, a guy does it blindfolded Basically a video of what ScorLibran
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Because it's impossible to solve

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But that picture is already solved...

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True.

But there was that puzzle some decades ago where the 14 and 15 was switched and 1000s of dollars would be given out to the first person to solve it - which was impossible to do of course but it kept people pretty busy

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More like 1 century and 3 decades or so ago.

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True.

But there was that puzzle some decades ago where the 14 and 15 was switched and 1000s of dollars would be given out to the first person to solve it - which was impossible to do of course but it kept people pretty busy

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I'd lose my marbles...
don't you mean *balls*

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Anyway, turning the layers of a Rubik's Cube around and around made my wrists tired, and when I was a teenager I needed to keep my wrists strong for.....um...other things.

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