Old 20th February 2006, 09:13   #41
Magic.X
Major Dude
 
Magic.X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Leipzig / Germany
Posts: 859
Quote:
Originally posted by ^..^
The point is, that it just can't be done in a few moments.
Not a few moments but should be ready after 2 hours, at least for me as i've the needed routines already done for Hotlist. If I've some time left beside my major projects, I'll give it a shot.
Its really not that much of a big deal, all you need is a timer, and a row of commands to be sent.


-=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=-

Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)
Magic.X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2006, 16:52   #42
^..^
Major Dude
 
^..^'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: There
Posts: 1,002
Send a message via ICQ to ^..^
No i meant rewriting AVS in order to include autosaving would take quite long.

^..^ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2006, 17:40   #43
Magic.X
Major Dude
 
Magic.X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Leipzig / Germany
Posts: 859
Why?

Its even easier without the need to hack. Again, all you need is a timer and a call to the save procedure.

But I dont think doing your custom AVS is so good.
One should ask the dev group if one could contribute stuff to the official version instead. Otherwise there'd be a need to rewrite every new release your own, also there'd be finally some progress on AVS developement.


-=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=-

Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)
Magic.X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2006, 21:32   #44
hornet777
Member
 
hornet777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 87
how about rewriting it for better overall stability, obviating the need for "auto-save" or any other band-aid. Yes I know it would take a while, and I certainly am no coder, so am vulnerable on these points to criticism, but don't we already have enough experience with kludges with Windows? What's needed is a master C-programmer to rework the code, and doesn't have a day job .

Delphi:
Visual Basic:
.NET:

C:
assembler:
hornet777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2006, 22:22   #45
Tuggummi
Bin King
 
Tuggummi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,173
I know im probably the odd man out, but i really hate auto-save feature in any program
It's just... just... see! I can't even explain it, because it frustates me so!

Texer Resources

Im retarded... err i mean retired!
Probably both...
Tuggummi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2006, 08:47   #46
PAK-9
Major Dude
 
PAK-9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,374
Quote:
Originally posted by hornet777
how about rewriting it for better overall stability, obviating the need for "auto-save" or any other band-aid. Yes I know it would take a while, and I certainly am no coder, so am vulnerable on these points to criticism, but don't we already have enough experience with kludges with Windows? What's needed is a master C-programmer to rework the code, and doesn't have a day job .

Delphi:
Visual Basic:
.NET:

C:
assembler:
Writing it in assembler, yea that will make it stable

http://PAK-9.deviantart.com

...innit
PAK-9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2006, 13:02   #47
Grandchild
Senior Member
 
Grandchild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 333
Quote:
Originally posted by PAK-9
Writing it in assembler, yea that will make it stable
Why would it? Because it's closer-to-the-root programming, more basic?
[just a question out of interest, no criticism]
Or was it sarcasm...
Grandchild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2006, 15:34   #48
PAK-9
Major Dude
 
PAK-9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,374
It was sarcasm

The lower level you program at the less stable the result is likely to be. If you coded AVS in Visual Basic it very rarely fall over (unless you used r33t h3x) but it would be crushingly slow (again, unless you used r33t h3x).

If you coded it completely in assembly it would be excruciatingly difficult to track down any bugs and probably be going over all the time... it would be pretty nippy though.

When its all said and done though, fixing (patching, bodging, whatever you want to call it) the existing AVS to a stable state would make a lot more sense than writing it from scratch... assuming all you want is the same functionality but stable.

And by the way it would take about 5 minutes to add an autosave to AVS if you get the source and have a passing familiarity with C.

http://PAK-9.deviantart.com

...innit
PAK-9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd February 2006, 23:14   #49
Grandchild
Senior Member
 
Grandchild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 333
Quote:
Originally posted by PAK-9
fixing [...] the existing AVS to a stable state would make a lot more sense than writing it from scratch... assuming all you want is the same functionality but stable.
So I take it you folks are making 'fridge' to achieve the next level vis program
Grandchild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd February 2006, 08:21   #50
PAK-9
Major Dude
 
PAK-9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,374
yea... 'making'

http://PAK-9.deviantart.com

...innit
PAK-9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd February 2006, 23:23   #51
hornet777
Member
 
hornet777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 87
admittedly, C is probably the best overall compromise, in terms of language
hornet777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th February 2006, 13:18   #52
jheriko
Forum King
 
jheriko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: a twist in the fabric of space
Posts: 2,150
Send a message via ICQ to jheriko
Quote:
Originally posted by Magic.X

One should ask the dev group if one could contribute stuff to the official version instead.
ROFL


make a fork... otherwise it will never happen :P

and I am SO working on fridge.

-- Jheriko

'Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers'
jheriko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th February 2006, 04:37   #53
MaTTFURY
Major Dude
 
MaTTFURY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Australia,
Posts: 1,356
maybe with the sourceforge page up, something or someone might be able to make it stable ¬_¬

i am not normal, no really.
MaTTFURY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Winamp & Shoutcast Forums > Visualizations > AVS > AVS Troubleshooting

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump