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Old 18th February 2004, 18:44   #1
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shoutcast log / viewer count / uid... how do i know how many UNIQUE viewers I've had?

Ok.. the title pretty much says it all.

I've had my (webcam) nsv stream running all day.

from what I can see, and have noticed whilst watching the log window, all 4 of my available user slots are maxxed out all the time. (wow aren't I popular ??!!).

Now, the UID count is up to about, in fact just over, 16000 now.

However, having run the w3c format log through analog, it says I've had 350 unique visits all day.

What gives ?

Whats the actual number of people I've had watching me all day ?

Are there any programmes out there which will make any proper sense of the shoutcast server log, without endless amounts of hacking ?


Any help much appreciated,


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Old 18th February 2004, 19:08   #2
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I would trust your w3c log. UID's are just unique identifiers for connections, their number reflects no true relationship to individual IP's.
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Old 18th February 2004, 19:21   #3
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ok... i was beginning to wonder about such high numbers.

thanks,


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Old 18th February 2004, 23:03   #4
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still not sure i trust any of the numbers, so i've started coding up an app to count through the shoutcast format log and give stats back like:
total unique visitors (IP's)
number of visits per IP
total viewing/listening time per IP
data sent per IP
bandwidth per IP

etc etc

i'll keep you posted on progress... and will release the working program to the public free of charge, since there seems to be a lack of a standalone easy to use ready to go kinda solution IYKWIM....

also, if you think i've missed any other obvious data that cam be extracted from the native log, i'll see if I can squeeze it out and include it in the prog.


cheers


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Old 20th February 2004, 22:56   #5
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here is v0.0.1 of the logfile parser.

pretty basic.... in fact was made in VB. so there.

you're gonna say that it's shit.
and you're right.


so what can I do to improve it a bit ?

the programme basically does all I ever wanted it to do (and that is to accurately count the number of unique hits on my SC server).


suggestions may or may not get implemented... depends on a number of things, first and foremost whether I can really be bothered to do it.

if all else fails, i'll give you the source


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{BTW... the REAL count that I was confused over in the initial post was in fact about 4000... so there !)
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Old 20th February 2004, 23:06   #6
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Old 21st February 2004, 03:15   #7
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what about something that can pull what's being played as well and match it with the viewer?
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Old 21st February 2004, 10:38   #8
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what about something that can pull what's being played as well and match it with the viewer?

thats not quite the point of this.... this program is really only for "after the event" analysis of the log file.


D.


[BTW ken your web link doens't work... gets redirected to paysforsurveys.com... what programs have you written ? ]
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Old 21st February 2004, 12:38   #9
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I mirror kens software

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BTW ken your web link doens't work... gets redirected to paysforsurveys.com... what programs have you written ?
I kno, my free webspace is really retarded. It doesn't work for some people and is slow for all who can see it. Luckily Sankt was friendly enough to mirror it. I wrote nsvgui and another that I am not at liberty to discuss here *cough, cough, look at bottom of software page, cough*

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Old 21st February 2004, 15:26   #12
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gotcha...


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Old 2nd March 2004, 15:51   #13
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updated log parser program.
now, a "visit" is a successful connection to your stream, and not just unique IP's.. so if someone from the internet looks at your stream say twice, then that is 2 visits

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