Old 6th August 2006, 21:10   #1
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To stream to atleast 10 viewers

what is needed?
what codec encoded?
how much bandwidth?
2691 / 706 download/upload
is what im using for now

i want to hold as many as i can.. with the smallest quality without alot of buffering or breakage

please help thanks in advanced
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Old 6th August 2006, 22:08   #2
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well you can stream at about 70kbps (audio kbps + video kbps = 70kbps)

but you will probably have buffering so go lower than that, 64 is a nice number

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Old 6th August 2006, 22:14   #3
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You will want to use the VP6.1 or VP6.2 video codec and AAC audio codec to achieve the best quality at such low streaming bitrates.

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awesome thanks for the quick response.


another problem im having .. i dont see the promt in the nsvenc to encode in 6.1 i have installed it many times.. nor the audio acc codec


under those specs.. in your opinion how many could i stream to? again i probably wont stream to no more than 10

also im not sure if i have the proper codecs to encode audio/video.. is there a good link for those? i believe only thing i have is 3.1 ..

Winamp is the only player that can be used to stream? without embedding some sort of player? If i depend on novice internet users to actually copy and paste a URL to start up winamp.. im going to be in alot of trouble (private server btw)

anyways thank you for helping out. I know its probably been asked a billion times.. I just wanted to get opinions on what other broadcasters reccommended in my current situation

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Old 7th August 2006, 01:08   #5
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You can get the VP6 codec from kens site.
nsv.no-ip.com/downloads/

You can find out more information on the AAC codec here :
( You have to borrow a dll file from winamp for encoding AAC plus ) www.scvi.net/audio.htm

You can also create a pls file to allow people to click on a link and automatically open winamp to view the stream : www.scvi.net/pls.htm

Xine, Mplayer (Linux - BSD) and the Xbox media player can also be used to view streams using VP6 and AAC.

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Old 7th August 2006, 01:28   #6
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Re: To stream to atleast 10 viewers

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2691 / 706 download/upload
It sounds like you are talking about 3M/768k bps DSL or cable. Your viewer capacity at a decent quality is probably about 1. You can look at what the 1 looks like below. That is generally 500 kbps.

You can probably maybe send one stream to a relay that looks that good.
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Old 7th August 2006, 01:30   #7
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so basically it wont matter how much i encode .. i am not going to get more than 1 viewer without breakage?
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Old 7th August 2006, 01:33   #8
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You can squish video that does'nt look super awful into 250 k. But to serve 10?. Your home system isn't gonna make it. That might get you 2. You'll need a dedicated server or to buy slots from a stream host. And even then, don't expect to use your computer for anything else while boradcasting.
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Fataldelay wrote on 08-06-2006 05:06 PM:
You answered my post earlier.. but im having a problem, i put 6.1 codec in and im using flask to encode my files..

i use enc classic gui to stream..

now when i encode with the 6.1
what bitrate should i encode in to host that file for at least 10 users without breakage

and what bitrate should i stream at?
in the gui
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You can squish video that does'nt look super awful into 250 k. But to serve 10?. Your home system isn't gonna make it. That might get you 2. You'll need a dedicated server or to buy slots from a stream host. And even then, don't expect to use your computer for anything else while boradcasting.
wow, ok thanks for your help
i did mention everything is pre-recorded right? or it dont matter still.

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You can send prerecorded video to a dedicated server. But yeah. I serve an average 120 people high speed networks. That means megabits, not kilobits.

My site consumed 4200 Gigabytes last month. From your house that would take years. Just a guess, about 6 years.

I have a 2 mbps fiber optic uplink here. I could serve 3 of my average 160 consumers.

Did I say dedicated servers in a data room
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wow.. ok so bottom line.. need a server... oh well it was a good dream while it lasted. Thank you bro, for the info though lol you saved me alot of time and worrying...until i get a dedicated server or something..
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My site consumed 4200 Gigabytes last month. From your house that would take years. Just a guess, about 6 years.
google can do math my friend

(4 200 gigabytes) / (700 (kilobits / second)) = 1.59494775 years

you're way off

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