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 18th March 2003, 19:48 #161 FesterHead Alumni     Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108 Foo and Bar are 16. Fred is 6. Correct.
18th March 2003, 20:51   #162
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 Originally posted by festerhead I decree we not get picky.

Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything.
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I stand corrected.

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Place the numbers 1 through 8 in the boxes below without any boxes of two consecutive numbers touching each other either horizontally, vertically, or diagonally.
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18th March 2003, 21:24   #164
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Done.

Someone else post the next riddle...
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 18th March 2003, 21:50 #165 SSJ4 Gogitta Followed by Gnomes(Forum King)     Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: West Virginia Googolplex: 10^10¹°° FB:/SSJ4.DominusDeus DeviantArt: DominusDeus XboX GT: A Wild Meeseeks Playstation 4: DominusDeus Posts: 7,161 I have a nice one. Although, as far as i know, it is impossable to solve (without wraping the paper into a tube). Ill post it anyways. It is simple. You have 3 houses, and 3 companies: Electricity, Gas, and Water. You must connect E G and W to each of the 3 houses. BUT, the companies cannot cross (lines cant cross), and you cannot simply go through the houses/companies. ```code: |¯| |¯| |¯| O O O E W G ``` the squares are the houses. O's are Electricity, Water and Gas. It would be best to do this on paper, or MS Paint. If on paper, NO MAKING THE PAPER INTO A TUBE. If on Paint, NO "drawing through the screen". No doing this: ```code: | --O--- |``` no going through the companies. and: `code:----|¯|-------|¯|------|¯|---` no going through the houses.
 18th March 2003, 21:55 #166 dlinkwit27 has no CT(Forum King)     Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,235 i thin i hve it.....jsut a few more minutes.
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slopy but ti works because a company can cross its own lines
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 Originally posted by dlinkwit27 slopy but ti works because a company can cross its own lines
No, dosent work.

As i said, lines cannot cross. That coverd it all. Dosent matter if it's the same company, or 2 differnt companies. Lines cannot cross.

ANd you cant go through your same company.

If it was as easy as crossing lines in your own company, or going through your own companie, i wouldnt have posted it.

18th March 2003, 22:07   #169
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 Originally posted by dlinkwit27 slopy but ti works because a company can cross its own lines
Must... work... not... solve... riddles....

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 18th March 2003, 22:17 #170 FesterHead Alumni     Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108 This is the Three Utilities problem. It has no paper solution without resulting to trickery or a third dimension. It's a Dr. math FAQ. Good question, though. The explanation using Euler's face, edge, and vertex formula is classic graph theory
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 Originally posted by festerhead It has no paper solution without resulting to trickery or a third dimension.
Indeed. Another riddle, someone?

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 18th March 2003, 22:36 #172 SSJ4 Gogitta Followed by Gnomes(Forum King)     Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: West Virginia Googolplex: 10^10¹°° FB:/SSJ4.DominusDeus DeviantArt: DominusDeus XboX GT: A Wild Meeseeks Playstation 4: DominusDeus Posts: 7,161 AALLLOUGNINCEACELSSSEANRYTELNETCTEERS If you cross out all unnecessary letters in the above string of letters, a logical sentence will remain. Can you read it?
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A LOGICAL SENTENECE

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ALL UNNECESSERY LETTERS

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 18th March 2003, 22:45 #174 anubis2003 Forum King     Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: middle of somewhere Posts: 5,564 That one was easy. [Over The Monkey] | [My DeviantArt] | [Seti] | [Atmo Digital Design Forums]
 18th March 2003, 22:46 #175 FesterHead Alumni     Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108 The tension was high one Friday afternoon when the Foos faced the Bars in a winner-take-all game. Rivalry was always intense between them as they were the best teams in the league. The team that won this game would usually win the league championship. After the dust settled, the Foos came out on top - but it was certainly a hard-fought contest. Lots of scoring plays were made. The Foos scored in some manner 10 different times. This means touchdowns (TDs), points- after-touchdown or extra points (PATs), and field goals (FGs). (There were no "safeties" scored by either team.) The scores are: 6 points for a touchdown 1 points for a point-after-touchdwon 3 points for a field goal Here are some additional facts for you to consider: The Foos missed 2 PATs; The Foos' final score was an odd, composite number; and The Foos outscored the Bars by 18 points. Here are two questions for you to answer: 1. What was the number of points scored by the unhappy Bars? 2. What is the fewest number of scoring plays that the Bars could have made to achieve their point total?  I'm done posting algebra problems. We can skip this one. [/edit]
 19th March 2003, 07:32 #176 xzxzzx Forum King     Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254 Foos: Touchdowns: 5 PATs: 3 Field Goals: 2 Score: 39 Divisible by: 3 Bar's point total: 21 Which means that they could score 3 touchdowns, and 1 field goal for a total of 4 scoring plays. Making me write a C++ program because I'm too lazy to figure it out myself... how evil is that? Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<\$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R \${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.
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 Originally posted by xzxzzx Foos: Touchdowns: 5 PATs: 3 Field Goals: 2 Score: 39 Divisible by: 3 Bar's point total: 21 Which means that they could score 3 touchdowns, and 1 field goal for a total of 4 scoring plays. Making me write a C++ program because I'm too lazy to figure it out myself... how evil is that?
The program only knew what you knew.

You knew no more than it. :P

 19th March 2003, 07:36 #178 xzxzzx Forum King     Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254 Here's a fairly easy one: There is a barrel (perfect cylinder) with no lid and some wine in it. "This barrel of wine is more than half full," said Curly. "No it's not," says Mo. "It's less than half full." Without any measuring implements and without removing any wine from the barrel, how can they easily determine who is correct? Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<\$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R \${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.
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 Originally posted by SSJ4_Gogitta The program only knew what you knew. You knew no more than it. :P
Yeah.. it's so much easier to have the PC go through the 5 possible combinations! Whew - don't think I could have gone through all FIVE of them this lifetime!

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 Originally posted by xzxzzx Here's a fairly easy one: There is a barrel (perfect cylinder) with no lid and some wine in it. "This barrel of wine is more than half full," said Curly. "No it's not," says Mo. "It's less than half full." Without any measuring implements and without removing any wine from the barrel, how can they easily determine who is correct?
Shining a light into the barrel at a 45° angle, half the light cut from the brim of the barrel, the tip of the parabolic reflection should come exactally to the brim of the opposite side of the light.

if the barrel is less than half full, the reflection wont,if it is more than half full, it will go past the brim.

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 19th March 2003, 17:25 #182 Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo(Forum Queen)   Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060 You have to tilf the barrel so that the wine would just reach the edge (but not run out!). Since it is a perfect cylinder --> if it was excactly half full, you'd right see the the surface of the wine endig at the bottom edge. If it was less than half full youd see the bottom at that point, if more, you couldn't see the edge. Correct? the only thing I could think of or is there another way? Mia
 19th March 2003, 17:49 #183 ujay Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072 You've got me convinced Mia. Probably doesn't need to be a perfect cylinder, as long as the top half is the same shape as the bottom half, like a normal barrel would be. UJ
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 Originally posted by SSJ4_Gogitta Shining a light into the barrel at a 45° angle, half the light cut from the brim of the barrel, the tip of the parabolic reflection should come exactally to the brim of the opposite side of the light. if the barrel is less than half full, the reflection wont,if it is more than half full, it will go past the brim.
"Without any measuring implements" <-- In that case, the light would be a measuring implement.

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 Originally posted by Mrs_Mia_Wallace You have to tilf the barrel so that the wine would just reach the edge (but not run out!). Since it is a perfect cylinder --> if it was excactly half full, you'd right see the the surface of the wine endig at the bottom edge. If it was less than half full youd see the bottom at that point, if more, you couldn't see the edge.
There may be another, easy way, but that's the easy way I know of. Also, Ujay is correct - it doesn't have to be a perfect cylinder, just symmetrical.

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 20th March 2003, 18:43 #186 Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo(Forum Queen)   Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060 Ok another riddle then: Imagine a chess board (8x8 sqares alternating black and white for those who don't play chess ) and two chess figures standing one in the left upper and one in the bottom right corner field. You got a box of domino pieces and one pice fits excactly on two of the chess squares. You have to try to put them on the remaining 62 squares (not using the two in the corners with the figures in there) without leaving any free sqares and not putting them diagonal or something. Is it possible? If yes: show how you have to put the pieces so they fit. If no: give an explanation why not. Have fun! Mia
 20th March 2003, 19:15 #187 ujay Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072 I say No. First, placing a domino on the board can only ever result in covering one black square and one white square, since adjacent squares are always a different colour. Next count up the number of black and white squares to be covered, this can only ever be 32 of one colour and 30 of the other, since the chessmen are on opposite ends of a diagonal and therefore both standing on the same colour. Since you can only cover equal numbers of black and white squares with dominos there will always be two squares of the same colour left over (the opposite colour to the ones the chessmen stand on. I'm sure this can be explained in an easier fashion UJ
 20th March 2003, 19:25 #188 Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo(Forum Queen)   Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060 I think you explained it just perfectly. Well done! So you're going to post another riddle? Mia
 20th March 2003, 19:58 #189 ujay Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072 Not so much a riddle as asking for an explaination. Some years ago I saw a magic show where the magician selected a member from the audience dressed in a three piece suit (Trousers, waistcoat and jacket for the sartorially challenged ). He was sat down on a chair and the magician then proceeded to remove his waistcoat without unbuttoning or taking the jacket off. How's it done ? UJ
 20th March 2003, 20:06 #190 Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo(Forum Queen)   Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060 I had to look up waistcoat at dictionary.com -The guy was wearing the jacket on his head? -He reached under the jacket and cut the waistcoat with scissors? -The waistcoat was prepared so he could pull it away form under the jacket? -I have no idea! Mia
 20th March 2003, 20:22 #191 ujay Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072 You disappoint me Mia . I thought the ladies would be the first to give an answer as they routinely do something similar at times. (hint). ps. There is nothing tricksey in the question. UJ
 20th March 2003, 20:29 #192 Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo(Forum Queen)   Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060 Sorry but I neither wear nor do I date guys with waistcoats! Well he could just slip out of the jacket with his arms one at a time and slipping out of the waistcoat with it and then he could pull it over his head above the jacket...but I thought that pulling the arms out of the sleeves would fall into the "taking jacket off" category! Mia
 20th March 2003, 20:39 #193 ujay Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072 You're working your way towards the answer The arms stay in the sleeves, just. One thing may be a bit ambiguous - it is only the jacket buttons that can't be undone. UJ
 20th March 2003, 20:52 #194 Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo(Forum Queen)   Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060 Oh ok, then you unbutton the waistcoat and go with your arms through the arm holes without taking them out off the jacket sleeves, you pull them through the jacket sleeves then out your hand out of the holes and pull them back...voila! Right? :undecided: If yes, go ahead and post another riddle I just notice that i'm rally tired that I need that long for a riddle like that Mia
 20th March 2003, 21:35 #195 ujay Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072 Yeah that's it. When you see it done it is very comical. Seems like we have hoggged the thread for long enough, I leave it to someone else to carry on, UJ
 20th March 2003, 22:14 #196 xzxzzx Forum King     Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254 This is an unusual paragraph. I'm curious how quickly you can find out what is so unusual about it? It looks so plain - you would think nothing was wrong with it! In fact, nothing is wrong with it! It is unusual though. Study it, and think about it, but you still may not find anything odd. Although, if you work at it a bit, you might find out! Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<\$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R \${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.
 20th March 2003, 22:17 #197 anubis2003 Forum King     Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: middle of somewhere Posts: 5,564 I found "out". Is that what we were supposed to find? [Over The Monkey] | [My DeviantArt] | [Seti] | [Atmo Digital Design Forums]
 20th March 2003, 23:11 #198 xzxzzx Forum King     Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254 Hehehe. No, the riddle means what it says. That is an unusual paragraph. The question is: Why? A hint, for those not tough enough : There's something missing. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<\$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R \${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.
 20th March 2003, 23:17 #199 FesterHead Alumni     Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108 Is it "Gadsby" by Ernest Vincent Wright related?
 20th March 2003, 23:21 #200 xzxzzx Forum King     Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254 This is a post that is unusual in a similar way. I can't start to say how similarly unusual it is. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34|<\$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? | Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R \${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.
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