Old 14th July 2004, 07:49   #201
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infinity is a non real number like pie and so must teated as such.

I think the rule you are thinking of horse-fly is L'Hôpital's and altough I am not not a cal wiz it deals with infinity/infinity and 0/0 useing the fun world of limits.
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Old 14th July 2004, 08:02   #202
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Pi is a real number, but it isn't rational.
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Old 14th July 2004, 08:04   #203
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Jesus.... He spelt "pi" - "Pie".

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Pi is approx: 3.14
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Old 14th July 2004, 08:11   #204
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sorry it is late sq root of -1 is non real and i bow to to squakmix's mastery of spelling
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Old 14th July 2004, 08:18   #205
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Xzxzzx (and Yes I spelt it by memory ), why do people seek what you know? Is the fact that you are giving people the chance to ask questions reason to ask, no matter how mudane the question?
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Old 14th July 2004, 11:37   #206
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There is a thereom(sp?) in Calculus that proves n/0 approaches infinity. That is why i figured to use 1/0.
It's theorem, and I do not believe one exists exactly as you say it does. If you have a fraction x/y, when y approaches zero while |x| > |y| (read: while x stays sufficiently larger than y; I just included this because x doesn't necessarily have to remain constant), x/y approaches infinity. y can't be zero, though, as that would be undefined. You can't devide by zero.

At least that's what I learned in school.

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Old 14th July 2004, 11:44   #207
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sorry it is late sq root of -1 is non real and i bow to to squakmix's mastery of spelling
The square root of -1 is imaginary.
The term imaginary (in maths) is given to numbers which have a factor of sqrt -1

Hence, infinity, whatever it is, is NOT imaginary.

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Old 14th July 2004, 11:58   #208
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The square root of -1 is imaginary.
The term imaginary (in maths) is given to numbers which have a factor of sqrt -1

Hence, infinity, whatever it is, is NOT imaginary.
Once you get into imaginary numbers you'll really start to confuse people

[edit]and my question for xzxzzx is... why is this thread being derailed with talk of mathematics? [/edit]

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Old 14th July 2004, 16:58   #209
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It's theorem, and I do not believe one exists exactly as you say it does. If you have a fraction x/y, when y approaches zero while |x| > |y| (read: while x stays sufficiently larger than y; I just included this because x doesn't necessarily have to remain constant), x/y approaches infinity. y can't be zero, though, as that would be undefined. You can't devide by zero.

At least that's what I learned in school.
Well this is a person who took a semester of calculus over 5 weeks without a book.
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Once you get into imaginary numbers you'll really start to confuse people

[edit]and my question for xzxzzx is... why is this thread being derailed with talk of mathematics? [/edit]
I believe that was my doing with asking xzxzzx a question about 1/0 * 0/1.
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Old 14th July 2004, 17:34   #210
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Well this is a person who took a semester of calculus over 5 weeks without a book.
Well, I'll just believe you then for the time being until I'll begin studying...

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Old 14th July 2004, 17:45   #211
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How old are you?
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18.
Ah. That would explain this...

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in other words: I'M SMARTER THAN YOU ALL!
When I was 18 I was smarter than everyone too. In fact, I was the official Smartest Person In The Universe™ from the ages of 14 to 19. It was sort of a pain with world leaders, scientists and gamblers calling me constantly to ask questions.

But, alas, somewhere between the ages of 20 and 23 I lost my superior intelligence, and now I'm just another dumb 36-year-old. When people call me now, it's usually "Hey, idiot!"

So, anyway, that leads to my next question...

How do you cope with all the phone calls, knocks on your door and general harassment you must get from knowing so much?

(When I was 18 I had security guards, phone screeners and PR reps. Extreme, but necessary. )

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Old 14th July 2004, 17:57   #212
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lol


Got a question as well:
Do you like the sea?

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Old 14th July 2004, 18:05   #213
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if someone asks a stupid question and you give an even more ridiculous answer does it matter?

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When I was 18 I was smarter than everyone too. In fact, I was the official Smartest Person In The Universe™ from the ages of 14 to 19. It was sort of a pain with world leaders, scientists and gamblers calling me constantly to ask questions.
About 30 years ago I was the official Smartest Person In The Universe™.

My 16 year old son is now proving to us all that he is the next official Smartest Person In The Universe™.


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Jesus.... He spelt "pi" - "Pie".

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Pi is approx: 3.14
Pi = 3.14159265 -- Ask Google
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Microsoft's built in calculator: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795

edit: I must state that this is only a close approximation.

Further edit:

Upon reflection, this brings up a question for the mighty xzxzzx...

Good, Fast, Cheap. The saying goes, you can, at most, have only two.
My example above has only two. Its a good approximation and it was fast way to get it. Windows XP is not cheap, hence failing the third point.
Can you give an example that has all three points?

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Old 14th July 2004, 18:36   #217
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Microsoft's built in calculator: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795

edit: I must state that this is only a close approximation.
It isn't that close.
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Old 14th July 2004, 20:45   #220
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Xzxzzx (and Yes I spelt it by memory ), why do people seek what you know? Is the fact that you are giving people the chance to ask questions reason to ask, no matter how mudane the question?
Yes.

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[edit]and my question for xzxzzx is... why is this thread being derailed with talk of mathematics? [/edit]
There are lots of questions in mathematics, and mathematics is interested, thus, the thread. Plus there's some idiot who keeps espousing the wrong thing, it seems.

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Ah. That would explain this...

...(blah blah blah)...
Interesting. My prediction comes true sooner than I expected.

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So, anyway, that leads to my next question...

How do you cope with all the phone calls, knocks on your door and general harassment you must get from knowing so much?
I built a time machine, and stopped my growth. At any given time, there's about 100,000 of me answering questions.

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Got a question as well:
Do you like the sea?
Yes. I'd like to start SCUBA diving the sea this year, once the water warms up a bit more, and I get my SCUBA gear out of storage from another god damn state.

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if someone asks a stupid question and you give an even more ridiculous answer does it matter?
I've always lived my life with the axiom "ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer".

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Horse-fly, how close do you want?
It's obvious that he wants it to 1 million digits:
http://xzxzzx.com/tmp/pi_1024.txt

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xzxzzx: Why?
Why not?

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Why not?
Didn't you already answer the question "Why?" in a previous post with the same answer?
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apparently, xzxzzx is consistently answering the questions
which makes him even more trustworthy
way to go!

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Old 14th July 2004, 20:55   #223
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Didn't you already answer the question "Why?" in a previous post with the same answer?
Yes, and my answer hasn't changed.

siebe83 knows what he's saying there.

Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything.
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10000 digits accurate enough?
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not too consistant... he didn't answer this:
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Upon reflection, this brings up a question for the mighty xzxzzx...

Good, Fast, Cheap. The saying goes, you can, at most, have only two.
My example above has only two. Its a good approximation and it was fast way to get it. Windows XP is not cheap, hence failing the third point.
Can you give an example that has all three points?

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Pi in 8 base math is 4.444... some other numbers. But the first 4 numbers are 4. I think we should convert to 8 base math. Where 7+7=14 and 14+14=26.

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42! or was that base 13?
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Pi in 8 base math is 4.444... some other numbers. But the first 4 numbers are 4. I think we should convert to 8 base math. Where 7+7=14 and 14+14=26.
Huh?

Base 8:
00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07,
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17,
20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27,
30, ...

In base 8:
7 + 7 = 16
14 + 14 = 30

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not too consistant... he didn't answer this:
You edited it after I read it.

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Upon reflection, this brings up a question for the mighty xzxzzx...

Good, Fast, Cheap. The saying goes, you can, at most, have only two.
My example above has only two. Its a good approximation and it was fast way to get it. Windows XP is not cheap, hence failing the third point.
Can you give an example that has all three points?
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10000 digits accurate enough?
Why not just 22/7?
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Why not just 22/7?
Because 22/7 is only accurate to 3.14.

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You edited it after I read it.
You waited 1 hour and 23 minutes to respond after reading it??? Something's rotten here...


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Linux.
Oops, an OS is only as good as the applications designed for it. Linux doesn't have any good apps in my line of work.

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You waited 1 hour and 23 minutes to respond after reading it??? Something's rotten here...
Yeah, I did. I had a call from a client.

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Oops, an OS is only as good as the applications designed for it. Linux doesn't have any good apps in my line of work.
Linux as a server platform, then.

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Why not?

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oops my calculator is screwy.

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Interesting. My prediction comes true sooner than I expected.
Your foresight is my hindsight. We agree!

But you haven't answered my question about how you cope with the demands of society on the vastly intelligent. I need all the advice I can get to pass on to the child I'll have one day when they begin to experience the ubiquitous IQ spike in their late teens.

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But you haven't answered my question about how you cope with the demands of society on the vastly intelligent. I need all the advice I can get to pass on to the child I'll have one day when they begin to experience the ubiquitous IQ spike in their late teens.
Yes I did.

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Old 15th July 2004, 04:20   #239
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Why is it that when the people who make commercials choose to aim their products at a deciduously younger demographic, do they immediately assume that we all like rap/and or pop, and wear baggy clothes? Or even that the majority of us like that sort of thing?

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Old 15th July 2004, 04:21   #240
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Yes I did.
Ah, so you did. My bad.

So is making 100,000 of yourself done by human cloning, or making use of parallel universes? Either way, great answer!

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