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 14th July 2004, 07:49 #201 Vol. Fireant Junior Member   Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5 infinity is a non real number like pie and so must teated as such. I think the rule you are thinking of horse-fly is L'Hôpital's and altough I am not not a cal wiz it deals with infinity/infinity and 0/0 useing the fun world of limits.
 14th July 2004, 08:02 #202 horse-fly Account Closed     Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,360 Pi is a real number, but it isn't rational.
 14th July 2004, 08:04 #203 squakMix wwwyzzerdd(Forum King)     Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458 Jesus.... He spelt "pi" - "Pie". Oh yea: Pi is approx: 3.14
 14th July 2004, 08:11 #204 Vol. Fireant Junior Member   Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5 sorry it is late sq root of -1 is non real and i bow to to squakmix's mastery of spelling
 14th July 2004, 08:18 #205 squakMix wwwyzzerdd(Forum King)     Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458 Xzxzzx (and Yes I spelt it by memory ), why do people seek what you know? Is the fact that you are giving people the chance to ask questions reason to ask, no matter how mudane the question?
14th July 2004, 11:37   #206
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 Originally posted by horse-fly There is a thereom(sp?) in Calculus that proves n/0 approaches infinity. That is why i figured to use 1/0.
It's theorem, and I do not believe one exists exactly as you say it does. If you have a fraction x/y, when y approaches zero while |x| > |y| (read: while x stays sufficiently larger than y; I just included this because x doesn't necessarily have to remain constant), x/y approaches infinity. y can't be zero, though, as that would be undefined. You can't devide by zero.

At least that's what I learned in school.

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14th July 2004, 11:44   #207
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 Originally posted by Vol. Fireant sorry it is late sq root of -1 is non real and i bow to to squakmix's mastery of spelling
The square root of -1 is imaginary.
The term imaginary (in maths) is given to numbers which have a factor of sqrt -1

Hence, infinity, whatever it is, is NOT imaginary.

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14th July 2004, 11:58   #208
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 Originally posted by will The square root of -1 is imaginary. The term imaginary (in maths) is given to numbers which have a factor of sqrt -1 Hence, infinity, whatever it is, is NOT imaginary.
Once you get into imaginary numbers you'll really start to confuse people

and my question for xzxzzx is... why is this thread being derailed with talk of mathematics? [/edit]

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14th July 2004, 16:58   #209
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 Originally posted by CaptainNuss It's theorem, and I do not believe one exists exactly as you say it does. If you have a fraction x/y, when y approaches zero while |x| > |y| (read: while x stays sufficiently larger than y; I just included this because x doesn't necessarily have to remain constant), x/y approaches infinity. y can't be zero, though, as that would be undefined. You can't devide by zero. At least that's what I learned in school.
Well this is a person who took a semester of calculus over 5 weeks without a book.
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 Originally posted by lostonline Once you get into imaginary numbers you'll really start to confuse people and my question for xzxzzx is... why is this thread being derailed with talk of mathematics? [/edit]
I believe that was my doing with asking xzxzzx a question about 1/0 * 0/1.

14th July 2004, 17:34   #210
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 Originally posted by horse-fly Well this is a person who took a semester of calculus over 5 weeks without a book.
Well, I'll just believe you then for the time being until I'll begin studying...

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14th July 2004, 17:45   #211
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 Originally posted by ScorLibran How old are you?
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 Originally posted by xzxzzx 18.
Ah. That would explain this...

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 Originally posted by xzxzzx People should listen to me because I'm right [...] in other words: I'M SMARTER THAN YOU ALL!
When I was 18 I was smarter than everyone too. In fact, I was the official Smartest Person In The Universe™ from the ages of 14 to 19. It was sort of a pain with world leaders, scientists and gamblers calling me constantly to ask questions.

But, alas, somewhere between the ages of 20 and 23 I lost my superior intelligence, and now I'm just another dumb 36-year-old. When people call me now, it's usually "Hey, idiot!"

So, anyway, that leads to my next question...

How do you cope with all the phone calls, knocks on your door and general harassment you must get from knowing so much?

(When I was 18 I had security guards, phone screeners and PR reps. Extreme, but necessary. )

I'm a psychosomatic sister running around without a leash.

 14th July 2004, 17:57 #212 siebe83 Forum King     Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,222 lol Got a question as well: Do you like the sea? Good Winamp plugins by Joonas, DrO and shaneh. If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.
 14th July 2004, 18:05 #213 MonKeyRum Major Dude     Join Date: May 2004 Location: The North Posts: 859 if someone asks a stupid question and you give an even more ridiculous answer does it matter? Suburbia: The place where they clear down trees and then name roads after them
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 Originally posted by ScorLibran When I was 18 I was smarter than everyone too. In fact, I was the official Smartest Person In The Universe™ from the ages of 14 to 19. It was sort of a pain with world leaders, scientists and gamblers calling me constantly to ask questions.
About 30 years ago I was the official Smartest Person In The Universe™.

My 16 year old son is now proving to us all that he is the next official Smartest Person In The Universe™.

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14th July 2004, 18:19   #215
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 Originally posted by squakMix Jesus.... He spelt "pi" - "Pie". Oh yea: Pi is approx: 3.14

 14th July 2004, 18:21 #216 CaboWaboAddict Forum Sot(Major Dude)     Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Marietta, Ga. U.S.A. Posts: 3,915 Microsoft's built in calculator: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 edit: I must state that this is only a close approximation. Further edit: Upon reflection, this brings up a question for the mighty xzxzzx... Good, Fast, Cheap. The saying goes, you can, at most, have only two. My example above has only two. Its a good approximation and it was fast way to get it. Windows XP is not cheap, hence failing the third point. Can you give an example that has all three points? Idiot's Advocate My site (under construction) Last edited by CaboWaboAddict; 14th July 2004 at 19:05.
14th July 2004, 18:36   #217
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 Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict Microsoft's built in calculator: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 edit: I must state that this is only a close approximation.
It isn't that close.

 14th July 2004, 19:06 #218 CaboWaboAddict Forum Sot(Major Dude)     Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Marietta, Ga. U.S.A. Posts: 3,915 Horse-fly, how close do you want? Idiot's Advocate My site (under construction)
 14th July 2004, 19:40 #219 InvisableMan Ninja Master!(Forum King)     Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hotel California Posts: 4,332 xzxzzx: Why?
14th July 2004, 20:45   #220
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 Originally posted by squakMix Xzxzzx (and Yes I spelt it by memory ), why do people seek what you know? Is the fact that you are giving people the chance to ask questions reason to ask, no matter how mudane the question?
Yes.

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 Originally posted by lostonline and my question for xzxzzx is... why is this thread being derailed with talk of mathematics? [/edit]
There are lots of questions in mathematics, and mathematics is interested, thus, the thread. Plus there's some idiot who keeps espousing the wrong thing, it seems.

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 Originally posted by ScorLibran Ah. That would explain this... ...(blah blah blah)...
Interesting. My prediction comes true sooner than I expected.

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 Originally posted by ScorLibran So, anyway, that leads to my next question... How do you cope with all the phone calls, knocks on your door and general harassment you must get from knowing so much?
I built a time machine, and stopped my growth. At any given time, there's about 100,000 of me answering questions.

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 Originally posted by siebe83 Got a question as well: Do you like the sea?
Yes. I'd like to start SCUBA diving the sea this year, once the water warms up a bit more, and I get my SCUBA gear out of storage from another god damn state.

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 Originally posted by MonKeyRum if someone asks a stupid question and you give an even more ridiculous answer does it matter?
I've always lived my life with the axiom "ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer".

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 Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict Horse-fly, how close do you want?
It's obvious that he wants it to 1 million digits:
http://xzxzzx.com/tmp/pi_1024.txt

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 Originally posted by InvisableMan xzxzzx: Why?
Why not?

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14th July 2004, 20:48   #221
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 14th July 2004, 20:53 #222 siebe83 Forum King     Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,222 apparently, xzxzzx is consistently answering the questions which makes him even more trustworthy way to go! Good Winamp plugins by Joonas, DrO and shaneh. If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.
14th July 2004, 20:55   #223
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 Originally posted by beanboy89 Didn't you already answer the question "Why?" in a previous post with the same answer?
Yes, and my answer hasn't changed.

siebe83 knows what he's saying there.

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not too consistant... he didn't answer this:
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 Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict Upon reflection, this brings up a question for the mighty xzxzzx... Good, Fast, Cheap. The saying goes, you can, at most, have only two. My example above has only two. Its a good approximation and it was fast way to get it. Windows XP is not cheap, hence failing the third point. Can you give an example that has all three points?

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 14th July 2004, 21:05 #226 whiteflip Post Master General(Forum King)     Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032 Pi in 8 base math is 4.444... some other numbers. But the first 4 numbers are 4. I think we should convert to 8 base math. Where 7+7=14 and 14+14=26. I'm Back?
 14th July 2004, 21:08 #227 shakey_snake Forum Domo     Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,313 only 20 digits are necessary to calculate the circumference of the Earth down to a fraction of an inch, and 39 digits are needed to calculate the circumference of the entire known universe down to the electron! elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme
 14th July 2004, 21:12 #228 mark Forum King     Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287 42! or was that base 13?
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 Originally posted by whiteflip Pi in 8 base math is 4.444... some other numbers. But the first 4 numbers are 4. I think we should convert to 8 base math. Where 7+7=14 and 14+14=26.
Huh?

Base 8:
00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07,
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17,
20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27,
30, ...

In base 8:
7 + 7 = 16
14 + 14 = 30

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Why not just 22/7?

14th July 2004, 21:33   #232
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 Originally posted by cyu Why not just 22/7?
Because 22/7 is only accurate to 3.14.

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You waited 1 hour and 23 minutes to respond after reading it??? Something's rotten here...

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 Originally posted by xzxzzx Linux.
Oops, an OS is only as good as the applications designed for it. Linux doesn't have any good apps in my line of work.

Maybe my 16 year old son will move up to being the official Smartest Person In The Universe™ sooner than I expected.

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14th July 2004, 21:57   #234
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Yeah, I did. I had a call from a client.

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 Originally posted by CaboWaboAddict Oops, an OS is only as good as the applications designed for it. Linux doesn't have any good apps in my line of work.
Linux as a server platform, then.

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exactly.

 15th July 2004, 03:51 #236 whiteflip Post Master General(Forum King)     Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032 oops my calculator is screwy. I'm Back?
15th July 2004, 04:11   #237
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 Originally posted by xzxzzx Interesting. My prediction comes true sooner than I expected.
Your foresight is my hindsight. We agree!

But you haven't answered my question about how you cope with the demands of society on the vastly intelligent. I need all the advice I can get to pass on to the child I'll have one day when they begin to experience the ubiquitous IQ spike in their late teens.

I'm a psychosomatic sister running around without a leash.

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 Originally posted by ScorLibran But you haven't answered my question about how you cope with the demands of society on the vastly intelligent. I need all the advice I can get to pass on to the child I'll have one day when they begin to experience the ubiquitous IQ spike in their late teens.
Yes I did.

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 15th July 2004, 04:20 #239 White Raven Little Winged One     Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada, now UK Posts: 4,165 Why is it that when the people who make commercials choose to aim their products at a deciduously younger demographic, do they immediately assume that we all like rap/and or pop, and wear baggy clothes? Or even that the majority of us like that sort of thing? just as feathery as ever | portfolio | a poignant quote
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Ah, so you did. My bad.

So is making 100,000 of yourself done by human cloning, or making use of parallel universes? Either way, great answer!

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