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Old 19th November 2004, 23:11   #81
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Quintessential is a pretty good player, better than all other replacements I have tried.. It's sad that winamp may dwindle, I have been using this software for many years. Since its inception..
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Old 20th November 2004, 11:51   #82
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One thing to notice is that Quintessential uses NSIS as installation engine...
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Old 20th November 2004, 15:04   #83
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uses NSIS as installation engine...
which any self respecting person uses anyway

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Old 20th November 2004, 16:39   #84
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But there's nothing like Jump or JumpEx there... for now I stick to winamp
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Old 20th November 2004, 17:54   #85
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there's also not even a media libary, but a nice and priceless ripping feature (which you can only use if you work with the 'ugly' default skin)

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Old 20th November 2004, 20:11   #86
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and this thing mimics Winamp (it uses a window with the same class as our favorite player) which makes my winamp desk band command it instead of winamp itself when both are running...
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and this thing mimics Winamp (it uses a window with the same class as our favorite player) which makes my winamp desk band command it instead of winamp itself when both are running...
that's just evil

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Old 20th November 2004, 23:16   #88
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But there's nothing like Jump or JumpEx there... for now I stick to winamp
i wouldnt exactly say that >.>

theres something like a 'play next' feature which is like jtfe, but it only queues one, i believe

then theres also this

though neither is hardly as nice or cool as jtfe... someone did put something like it on there

as for jtf, right click the song scroller thing.... although i dont like it as much as jtf, and theres a winamp plugin emulating that(it has its own internal queue, and i have found to be my replacement of albumlist... mainly do to the fact that it goes on an internal queue, so it doesnt add files(unless the files arent in the playlist then it adds them, plays them, deletes them) and its alot easier to browse/quicker to access since i just right click the info instead of opening up albumlists own window... though thats not what its meant for, its meant for an easy way to jump to a file in window shade mode, i believe)

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Old 20th November 2004, 23:44   #89
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So basically, we're all in agreement that QCD is a p.o.s., yes?
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Old 20th November 2004, 23:46   #90
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So basically, we're all in agreement that QCD is a p.o.s., yes?
i can't comment (never used it )

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Old 20th November 2004, 23:48   #91
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Yes. Agreed. Total P.O.S.
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Old 21st November 2004, 01:57   #92
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Just for asking, why link for menu skin have two, under options menu and skinins menu itself it is not very annoying, and make efficient if it have one link menu only...

And by way the Winamp version 5.06 very stable now... thanks maximas... I hope the next version Winamp, probably Winamp 5.1 have feature icon differentiate, DVD support (officially) etc (control global brightness, custom pan and zooom...).....

Yes, indeed..., absolutely P.O.S!

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Old 21st November 2004, 02:29   #93
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You have referenced the wrong dictionary, Logy

This is the correct online reference > P.O.S!
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Old 21st November 2004, 07:56   #94
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So whats going on. Winamp 5.06 is out? When does development stop? What do we all do now?

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Old 21st November 2004, 10:34   #95
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You have referenced the wrong dictionary, Logy

This is the correct online reference > P.O.S!
thank you for the slang dictionary

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Old 21st November 2004, 18:47   #96
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What do we all do now?
start using DroBar1337 which comes with uber 1337 things such as a 'break dance' mode

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Old 21st November 2004, 19:34   #97
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start using DroBar1337 which comes with uber 1337 things such as a 'break dance' mode

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What do we all do now?
No panic... We should look forward to the development of the Wasabi.player

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Old 21st November 2004, 20:17   #98
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Btw where can I get any info on Wasabi.Player?

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Old 21st November 2004, 22:41   #99
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Wasabi development (the platform that Winamp3 was built on) will live on.

Don't email or PM me concerning Winamp. Instead, either start a NEW TOPIC or post a REPLY in the appropriate thread in these forums. This will also benefit others who may have a similar question or problem. But before posting, please first Search the forums and read all FAQs and all Sticky threads.

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still there's no updated info.

All I can get is some stuff about the success on porting it to xwindows but I was looking for some discussion.

Guess that is long gone

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Old 22nd November 2004, 01:17   #101
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Well, there is discussion, but on IRC. If you would have followed the links, they would have brought you here and then here, where the IRC info is...
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Old 22nd November 2004, 06:43   #102
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I'll look forward to the development of Wasabi.player like I look forward to the development of Sonique2. Maybe not enough people bought winamp like AOL wanted them too? Perhaps they over estimated the number of people who would shell out 15 bucks. Well I could have told AOL that the price was too high. THey should have sold it for 7 or 10. Bastards with their bastard greed. I hate AOL.

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Old 22nd November 2004, 09:07   #103
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60k sales according to the cnet article. thats 900k. not forgetting thats US only sales. still, not a lot.

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Old 22nd November 2004, 13:52   #104
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Well, there is discussion, but on IRC. If you would have followed the links, they would have brought you here and then here, where the IRC info is...
LOL I used that wiki to find out about the port to xwindows but I was looking for some sort of forum with all this happening but guess there isn't any

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Old 22nd November 2004, 14:13   #105
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its still active, but with so few people working on it, discussions remain on irc.

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Old 22nd November 2004, 18:09   #106
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Quintessential is a pretty good player, better than all other replacements I have tried.. It's sad that winamp may dwindle, I have been using this software for many years. Since its inception..
question about Quintessential:
can it organize playlists in a treeview? where i can make virtual folders.. like when u organize internet bookmarks.

Is Winamp really the best player? No serious alternatives?
here are some programs i tried:
- Windows Media Player 10 - SUCKS
- Itunes - SUCKS
- Foobar2000 - okay it's FREE.. lol

Realplayer Gold 10, is it any good?.. not tried it yet

I am a .NET programmer myself and if there are no good alternatives other than Winamp, i'm gonna start a new software project soon.
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Old 22nd November 2004, 20:50   #107
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goody, a .net media player.

I hope you realise people complain winamp is too slow at starting up?

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Old 22nd November 2004, 21:06   #108
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Or too big.

Now imagine people having to download the latest .net framework...
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Old 22nd November 2004, 22:23   #109
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goody, a .net media player.

I hope you realise people complain winamp is too slow at starting up?
trust me.. in a few years all new apps will be .NET, except for 3d games maybe.. however in .NET u can write unmanaged c++ code too, so even that is possible.
I see no reason why a .net app should be a slow starter. well i'm not writing software for people with less than 1 Ghz machines if that's what u mean.
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Or too big.

Now imagine people having to download the latest .net framework...
in new windows xp, .NET is installed by default.. with upgrade to SP2 too i believe.. not sure.
anyway Microsoft has invested big time in .NET.. so if your gonna write apps for windows, .NET is a sound choice.
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anyway Microsoft has invested big time in .NET.. so if your gonna write apps for windows, .NET is a sound choice.
well that's all fine and dandy but having to have the .NET framework for something like a simple 3k winamp plugin doesn't appeal to me and as has been shown the .NET compiler doesn't produce as tight unmanaged code as VC6 does. i'm not convinced by .NET and won't be converted to it. but hey each to their own

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well that's all fine and dandy but having to have the .NET framework for something like a simple 3k winamp plugin doesn't appeal to me and as has been shown the .NET compiler doesn't produce as tight unmanaged code as VC6 does. i'm not convinced by .NET and won't be converted to it. but hey each to their own

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well a .NET app will probably have a 20-30% speed loss.. but your gonna write software so much faster and cleaner.
ever heard of namespaces, interfaces, delegates and exceptions?.. also the .NET framework has an extensive library of classes, with probably everything u ever need. for instance it has a GDI+ library, which makes all the GDI functions more accessible. hence, u can write those fancy skinned applications with ease.
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I didn't get .NET framework 1.1 with SP2, it was an extra 23.5MB download.

I can't see dialup users downloading such a program.
People complain enough about GTK+, which is 'only' 4MB.

And a 20% speed hit is a big issue for a media player that's supposed to either run in the background and take exactly 0% resources or display high resolution videos and visualisations.
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And a 20% speed hit is a big issue for a media player that's supposed to either run in the background and take exactly 0% resources or display high resolution videos and visualisations.
i agree on that which is why pure c/c++ is better suited for these sort of things i feel. also i'd rather have a program that runs fast on my old P2 machine and uber fast on my A64 machine instead of something that doesn't work on the P2 and runs slow on the A64.

from my understanding of .NET it's a move back towards just in time compiling which yes works fine on multi ghz systems but to me that's turning back to the old way of basic coding where you're relying on an interpreter. so maybe you can create apps faster but a performance hit which means you have to have a faster machine to get the benefit out of a program is just not right to me.

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from my understanding of .NET it's a move back towards just in time compiling
well the JIT (just in time) compiler doesn't compile C# or VB.NET code if that's what u think.. like in the old days. It compiles a compiler generated intermediate code. Which also has the benefit of being cross-platform. hence, with little effort u can make your app running on a PocketPC too.
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A high system resource useage app on a pocket pc wouldn't be a good thing.

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ok believe what u want.. stay with your old COM shit
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is this a 'should we give up on winamp' thread? or a .net discussion thread?

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A high system resource useage app on a pocket pc wouldn't be a good thing.
Agreeded and since his program is not going to work on a less than 1GHz machine i guess that leaves pocket pcs out.

A .Net media player is not going to work on a pocket pc.

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Agreeded and since his program is not going to work on a less than 1GHz machine i guess that leaves pocket pcs out.

A .Net media player is not going to work on a pocket pc.
if u mean a media player for playing movies, u are probably right.. but for mp3's I see no problem.
what is so resource intensive about decoding an mp3 file? on my pc here Winamp never gets above 2% cpu usage.

FYI there is a more lightweight .net on pocketpc.. it's only 1 MB or so.
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