Old 10th November 2002, 08:29   #1
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I'm just curious... what are your opinions of Marilyn Manson?
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Old 10th November 2002, 08:31   #2
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i like the song "Rock is Dead"

but i wouldn't like to meet the guy
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Old 10th November 2002, 08:33   #4
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I'm not going to say that he is weird. He's just rather unique I guess, freakish sort of.
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Old 10th November 2002, 08:37   #5
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I'm not going to say that he is weird...
You're weird, and so is Marilyn Manson, and so is rm' for starting this thread, and so is Winamprocker and Randman for answering so quickly, and so is the person who posts after me...

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I like his style of music, well most of it anyway. As for him as a person: I really don't buy the cherade (sp?) he puts on. I would agree that the majority of it is for publicity. He obviously has a very good understanding of our culture and what people want. He balances being very controversial while not being totally rejected. That in itself takes some talent. But do I think he is truly what he portrays himself to be, no I don't. However, if he is, God help us for putting someone that truely sick and twisted up on a pedestal.
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He is an entertainer. While part of him is just externalizing his own self-esteem issues, I am sure that another part of him knows that being different and pissing off certain members of society will win him an automatic fan base with people who feel alienated.

I don't really like or dislike his music. In my opinion it's good, but not great or anything new. I have seen a few interviews with him, including the one in Bowling For Columbine, and while I don't always agree with his viewpoints he seems to be an intelligent person, a rare trait these days.

Plus, he shagged Rose McGowan. Kudos to him.
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Old 10th November 2002, 08:58   #8
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I've seen several TV interviews with Marilyn Manson, and he comes across as a very intelligent and free thinking person, and I have a good deal of respect for him. Yes, he does present a weird, and even (intentionally) offensive image, but this is just that, an IMAGE, and not a representation of who he really is. Basically he is the modern equivalent of all the "shock rock" bands of the 80's/early 90's.

That being said, most of his music is pretty decent, with the exception of the occasional pointless songs that are really just intended to shock/offend, especially the songs in which he points out the shallowness/hypocrisies/contradictions/intolerance which pervades modern society, and even some of the ones that are about relationships.
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More people should reply to this. I'm curious too.
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Old 10th November 2002, 23:17   #10
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I really couldn't give a fuck about Marilyn Manson. He is just one in a long line of people who have realised that there is money to be made off teenagers who want to rebel against their parents.

There's no need to tell me when I'm right;
I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty
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Old 10th November 2002, 23:21   #11
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The guy's a geek who wishes he was a freak
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Old 10th November 2002, 23:35   #12
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I'm not going to say that he is weird. He's just rather unique I guess, freakish sort of.
*agrees*he found a personality he feels confortable at expresing with..
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Old 10th November 2002, 23:47   #13
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There are weird and messed up people out there in the world that are much more messed up than he is (and that aren`t locked up), they just aren`t famous.

As for his music, I just love to listen to his scores off the Resident Evil soundtrack while playing a FPS. It just adds to the game.
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Old 10th November 2002, 23:59   #14
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Plus, he shagged Rose McGowan. Kudos to him.
Who is she?
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Although I have sketchy feelings for most of his music, he still has some that I can easily like. As for his public personality, he is a bit odd, i must admit. But as for his personal personality, he is very intelligent. I'm not going to shut him off even if his on-stage acts are deemed "different" from people who are considered "normal". He's just doing what he does. If you don't like it, ignore it. He's no different than (most) any other living person.

A very close Japanese friend I knew a while ago once said to me "Watashi no koto wo oboeta, onegai shimasu...Yakusoku?"

I forgot his name though...
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Manson's a church of Satan member. As Moby put it, if there really is a Satan, why does he hang around with four goths in a basement?

It's a good point.


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Old 11th November 2002, 03:53   #17
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I'm actually listening to him right now

I like his music, but he's a little wierd, even for me
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Old 11th November 2002, 05:00   #18
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As Moby put it...
Nothing personal, but Moby sucks, and I wouldn't place any worth on anything that he says or does.
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Old 11th November 2002, 05:02   #19
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More people should reply to this. I'm curious too.
Eeeenteresting results. Just goes further to support my theory, I suppose.
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Old 11th November 2002, 05:25   #20
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The guy's a geek who wishes he was a freak
Wow, he could be a posterchild for SPF 100 sunblock... like me :-o

Personally I think he's one of those people who... feeds off of negative/shock reactions of others. The problem with celebrities who live off of shock is that they become passe in a blink of an eye...

I'm sure the E! network already has produced a true hollywood story for him, and they have dispatched their evil E! conspirators to sell him cheap drugs/sabotaged car/sabotaged plane/ for the eventual OD/car crash/plane crash, just like the rest of the shock artists.
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Old 11th November 2002, 07:33   #21
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Eeeenteresting results. Just goes further to support my theory, I suppose.
What theory, and how does it relate to the fact that I bumped your thread so more people would respond?
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Old 11th November 2002, 09:29   #22
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Who is she?
Of course Bilbo's interested in the chick factor. McGowan is an American actress. She hasn't done anything big that I know of. Her best role was probably in Greg Araki's indie film Doom Generation. She's currently got a role on a crap American series called "Charmed."

She was Manson's girlfriend for some time and I think they were engaged at some point. They are no longer together.



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he is an idiot. but a clever one (yes it's an oxymoron, but what are you gonna do about it? eh?)
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yes it's an oxymoron, but what are you gonna do about it? eh?
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He may fall in to the catecory of 'weird' according to social standards, but the way I look at things is as follows.

At the moment I'm:
  • Working in a job that I don't like.
  • Continuously dream of being somewhere else.
  • Always planning to follow my dreams "sometime"
  • Making just enough money to pay my bills.

He's:
  • An entertainer in a profession of his choice.
  • Doing what he set out to do from the beginning - living his dream.
  • Making more money in a year than I will in my lifetime.

Who should you be more afraid of becoming? Him, or me......

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bah, ok, you win...this time.

ethan - but i bet you are genuinley liked by more people than he will ever be. there are RELIGIONS of people who would like to have him 'dissappear'...oh, and he is quite mad, you are just twisted
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and how does it relate to the fact that I bumped your thread so more people would respond?
It doesn't
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Nothing personal, but Moby sucks...
In your opinion, perhaps so. Some of us like to be a little more open-minded about music we're not fans of.


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In your opinion, perhaps so. Some of us like to be a little more open-minded about music we're not fans of.
I agree, though I'm not so open-minded as to want to give 8 Mile a chance.
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In your opinion, perhaps so. Some of us like to be a little more open-minded about music we're not fans of.
Yes, well the moment I see an "artist" from any mainstream/teenybopper group give an intelligent interview is the moment that I start giving these people some respect...and it hasn't happened yet. So far all I've seen are shallow remarks about things such as fashion, and image, and other such bullshit which has come to be popularized by the mainstream, and people who would concern themselves with such things simply aren't worth my time.

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I disagree, I'm no rap fan, but I'd see that movie, as the previews make it look decent and the reviews I've read so far are positive...eminem may be pretty mainstream, but he's nowhere near as braindead as most other "pop" artists, so his movie is worth a shot.

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ethan - but i bet you are genuinley liked by more people than he will ever be. there are RELIGIONS of people who would like to have him 'dissappear'...
While that may be true, Manson also has his own little cult of followers who would do pretty much anything for him, and I think it more than balances out...I'd certainly prefer to be disliked by the majority in order to have my own cult full of people who would give me anything I wanted...
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Yes, well the moment I see an "artist" from any mainstream/teenybopper group give an intelligent interview is the moment that I start giving these people some respect...and it hasn't happened yet. So far all I've seen are shallow remarks about things such as fashion, and image, and other such bullshit which has come to be popularized by the mainstream, and people who would concern themselves with such things simply aren't worth my time.
Still talking about Moby? I find his views on Animal rights, among other "intelligent" topics interesting, even if I do or do not agree. Is that another "bullshit" topic?

Please, enlighten us as to which bands you like to listen to.


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Old 12th November 2002, 01:45   #32
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He makes good songs.

But he needs to dump the antichirst shit. He's losing popularity, not gaining it.

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I disagree, I'm no rap fan, but I'd see that movie, as the previews make it look decent and the reviews I've read so far are positive...eminem may be pretty mainstream, but he's nowhere near as braindead as most other "pop" artists, so his movie is worth a shot.
In my opinion this movie is just a self-serving vehicle to further Eminem's career and make some easy money for all involved.

Also, I would doubt the veracity of the film unless it has a scene with a bunch of fat recording industry execs saying, "This white boy sounds like the real deal. Let's sign him and sell his version of Black music to rich suburban kids, just like we did with Elvis, 'cause we're a bunch of racist fucks with dollar signs in our eyes."
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While that may be true, Manson also has his own little cult of followers who would do pretty much anything for him, and I think it more than balances out...I'd certainly prefer to be disliked by the majority in order to have my own cult full of people who would give me anything I wanted...
good point...but it does tend to make him look and sound like a fucking twat
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In my opinion this movie is just a self-serving vehicle to further Eminem's career and make some easy money for all involved.

Also, I would doubt the veracity of the film unless it has a scene with a bunch of fat recording industry execs saying, "This white boy sounds like the real deal. Let's sign him and sell his version of Black music to rich suburban kids, just like we did with Elvis, 'cause we're a bunch of racist fucks with dollar signs in our eyes."
Fair enough that, although the review I've read said that it isn't technically a biography (or intended to be), so it doesn't necessarily need to be true to life.
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Fair enough that, although the review I've read said that it isn't technically a biography (or intended to be), so it doesn't necessarily need to be true to life.
True 'dat, yo. Now let's shake hands so I can go hang wit' all my bitches. Word.
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it's 'werd'. don't you know anything?
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nothing against marilyn manson, just some of the people that like him?
eew, some chick i used to be good friends with went gothic and tried to take me along, i still am glad everytime i see one of them that i left her to slitting wrists and being sad fo the fuck of it. not my cup of tea thats for sure.
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Nothing personal, but Moby sucks, and I wouldn't place any worth on anything that he says or does.
Disagreeing with someone's personal politics and views on life is the stupidest reason not to listen to their music...

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[b]Yes, well the moment I see an "artist" from any mainstream/teenybopper group give an intelligent interview is the moment that I start giving these people some respect...and it hasn't happened yet. [/b
...other then being envious of their popularity.
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it's 'werd'. don't you know anything?
I am shamed, sir. Please allow me to commit hari kari.

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