Old 5th November 2009, 10:26   #2481
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Errr... No. You'll screw up the rhodium plating on the platinum/white gold and it's abrasive so not for yellow gold either. Some diamonds are coated. Take it to the jeweler. They'll tighten the stones up so you won't lose them too. For DYI cleaning, I wouldn't use anything stronger than ivory dishwashing soap and warm water. You can blow the guck out of a ring with a water pik tooth tool. Don't drop the thing down the sink...

Toothpaste OK for cheap silver stuff where you don't care if you grind it a little. Also for polishing scratches out of your watch xtal. Also for polishing scratches out of optical media... gently...just rub off the gloss of the scratch... you don't have to grind it completely out.. Gold, platinum and rhodium will not make oxide (tarnish) so if they are clean, they are shiny.

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Really? Wow, for years the rich women around here have used Toothpaste for cleaning their diamonds..well, ya' live..ya learn... or not!
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If you want to clean gunk off gold, silver, platinum and rhodium, I suggest a soak in pure acetone (an organic solvent). For tarnished/oxidized/toned silver, acetone will not harm the toning (certain toning on coins can actually bring a premium price, and knowing that acetone will remove the PVC on a PVC damaged rare coin, but not harm the metal is useful).

Acetone shouldn't hurt a diamond, but I'm not sure.

And if you do use acetone, know that it eats PVC, so don't pour it down your drain! Set it outside and let it evaporate.

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I wouldn't. If soap and water wasn't enough, I'd tempt fate with ultrasonic or steam cleaning. I know some people use mild ammonia solutions, but I'd do as little as possible in general.

I think acetone has too great an opportunity to be reactive with something. Really I think unless you dipped your diamond in paint or something, soaking it in soap and water and using a water pik should do the job.

I do know you wouldn't EVER use toothpaste on a coin.
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I have a few silver rings that I wear, some turqoise, some gem, some plain. In the $40-$100 range. Toothpaste is just fine. It's quick, it grinds the tarnish off. On silver, the patina it leaves is acceptable. Who cares? Not my gold ring though.
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I wouldn't. If soap and water wasn't enough, I'd tempt fate with ultrasonic or steam cleaning. I know some people use mild ammonia solutions, but I'd do as little as possible in general.

I think acetone has too great an opportunity to be reactive with something. Really I think unless you dipped your diamond in paint or something, soaking it in soap and water and using a water pik should do the job.

I do know you wouldn't EVER use toothpaste on a coin.
I wouldn't use toothpaste on a coin, no, but acetone is harmless to silver and gold. Coin collectors I know (fucking rich ones that buy $20k coins on a whim) do indeed soak some of their damaged (but still valuable because they're ultra rare) coins in pure acetone, rinse with distilled water, then rinse in pure isopropyl alcohol. The only thing pure acetone will harm is organic materials such as PVC and oil residue (such as fingerprints).

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I know my gold class ring is coated to make the stone less shiny. It's possible there's some jewelers compound (glue) in there that wouldn't take kindly to acetone. I know that's the case with some of my rings.

Acetone has got to be overkill. But I guess I could consider it in a fallback situation. A Hail Mary maybe.

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No, it's just that the weapons are really effective at killing shit at this point.

You've heard the phrase, "kill it with fire!" Well, those guns do just that.

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Diamonds are cleaned at the jeweler's by use of an ultrasonic technique. The vibrations in combination with steam somehow clean the stone. If a customer handles a stone on the sales floor, they'll take a paper soaked in common bathroom alcohol to wipe it down.

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Diamonds are cleaned at the jeweler's by use of an ultrasonic technique. The vibrations in combination with steam somehow clean the stone.
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Sonicators do not steam, they only vibrate. Sonicators work off the principle of fundamental vibration harmonics whereby vibrations of a generic energy are produced that are of the correct generic harmonic to break generic chemical bonds. Thus, cleaning is possible.

Sure, the water/solution acting as the sonicating medium does heat up ... but that is only because the medium is absorbing the energy of the vibrations as well and getting down with the jive. The result being, the medium has to release it's new found extra energy because it really can't sustain it in a stable from ... thus heat is produced.

Sonicators are also well known to break up aggregates, thereby increasing the rate solubility by increasing the surface area of the analyte exposed to the solute.

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But yes, overall, they magically clean/dissolve all kinds of shit.
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They can also damage jewelry, but not if it isn't about ready to fail anyway.

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[annoying chemist's input]
Sonicators do not steam, they only vibrate. Sonicators work off the principle of fundamental vibration harmonics whereby vibrations of a generic energy are produced that are of the correct generic harmonic to break generic chemical bonds. Thus, cleaning is possible.

Sure, the water/solution acting as the sonicating medium does heat up ... but that is only because the medium is absorbing the energy of the vibrations as well and getting down with the jive. The result being, the medium has to release it's new found extra energy because it really can't sustain it in a stable from ... thus heat is produced.

Sonicators are also well known to break up aggregates, thereby increasing the rate solubility by increasing the surface area of the analyte exposed to the solute.

[/annoying chemist's input]

But yes, overall, they magically clean/dissolve all kinds of shit.
^I like the description - does this mean that sonic cleaning happens with the ring submerged in liquid then? If that's the case, then the steaming they tell me about would be a separate process I guess?

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http://www.slumberland.com/furniture...CategoryID=152

The picture is not exactly what I got, but the description is. It's the same but king sized and with a taller box spring than the low-profile one pictured. The brand is "Stearns & Foster", which is the upper division of Sealy Posturepeidc, similar to Acura being the upper division to Honda. We tried literally dozens of mattresses over the course of months before choosing this one, and it just seemed perfect. Neither of us like the texture of pillow-top mattresses, and it seems that no other brand of non-pillow-top mattresses felt quite right.

The spring-within-a-spring design gives a graduated amount of firmness the further you push down on one spot of the mattress, so that it gives a soft surface but without swallowing a heavy portion of the body. The surface materials are very good at breathing to keep things cool and dry. The design of the spring infrastructure keeps you still if your bed-mate decides to get up or toss and turn. The level top keeps you from losing real estate from the doming effect created by other plush tops. It was the only mattress that could keep my shoulder under me without cutting off circulation, overheating that area of the body (like all-foam mattresses), or causing me to shift my torso so that the shoulder was in front the way I would on a more firm mattress (causing undue neck bending when attempting to sleep on my side - hard to explain without pictures). It's also one of the only mattresses still made with handles.

In addition to the set, the salesman tossed in a steel frame, a mattress protector, a bedsheet/pillowcase set, two very high quality king-sized pillows (half memory foam, half latex foam), and free delivery. I'll post pictures when it all arrives.

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Ultrasonic cleaners are kind of a neat thing and pretty reasonable to buy for home use. They work because the ultrasonic waves create a massive amount of surface tension in the solution, usually a surfactant and water. I've used one for cleaning labware with a few drops of ammonia and water. It does result in cleaning that is even sterile.

I have a household steam cleaner, which is really handy for blasting goop out of the cracks in things. Nice for the car and getting in the nooks and crannies and for cleaning walls.

Would I stick an expensive diamond ring in one or blast one with a steam cleaner? There probably wouldn't be any reason not to. On the other hand, I like accidents with stuff like that to be someone elses fault.

In a former relationship "Gee, I can fix a Ford, but you'll have to take your BMW to the mechanic, Honey" Of course, that was a complete lie. I just preferred to be a lesser target! I learned when I changed a headlight and got blamed for something completely unrelated. How changing a headlight makes the fuel injection fail... didn't matter...

It was shortly after that where I quit doing anything at all for her and she went and found another victim. That was nice.

I know. I know. All women aren't like that, but you should always consider where you could go wrong and choose your battles. It's fine to sometimes let things be someone elses fault. Then you can be supportive....

Because all women are a little like that.



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I spend more time in bed than in a vehicle, despite having a 57 mile round trip each work day plus errands and recreational driving, and I'll try and spread the mattress life over 2 decades if I'm lucky, which comes to well over 50,000 hours spent in that bed if I average 7 hours per night. Some of the best times of my life are in a bed, so I really value it. I could have bought a lower quality mattress with a very nice bedframe with beautifully sculpted headboard and foot-board, etc. which was a worthy thought, but really, when I'm in the bedroom, I'm either looking at the back of my eyelids or my wife, so having a good looking bed took a back seat to a higher quality mattress and a bare-bones metal frame. Perhaps a few years down the road I'll buy a nice bedroom furniture set, but there are other priorities for now. I've been rather heavy on the spending these past couple months, and it's making me worry that I won't have a buffer for unexpected-needs such as a sudden change in health, employment or something like that.

I totally understand the women thing... and they have valid complaints about a lot of us too. I had to pull out a lot of weeds before I found a good flower. Some looked really hard and stretched quite a bit for a way to pass the blame to me for anything that wasn't going right, almost to the point of teaching me to do the same back, which is even worse. It was to the point where I was convinced that being single was better, and up until that point I really was better off single than involved with the people I dated. I got burned out to the point where I was very reluctant to start anything with Renee despite her being attractive to me, because the other gals of the past had been as much or more attractive on initial first impressions, and then turned out to be pains in the ass. The difference was that with those of the past, things started good and turned gradually bad over time, and with Renee, things started good and gradually got better.

It's really sad - instead of having a gal's reactions to blame for keeping me from doing work, I can't really figure out what it is. I used to do a lot of shit on my own like brakes, body work, basic tune-ups (plugs, wires, filters, liquids, adjustments, distributer cap...) etc. Some of that is obsolete now, but, in the last 2 years I've just thrown the vehicles at the stealership and borrow a loaner from them to take to a book store or something until the job is done, and then I bitch about the labor costs... laziness I suppose. I even paid the high school Spanish club to wash/detail the truck the other day for their fund raiser instead of cleaning it my own damn self. It was a pretty good-weather weekend day for it too.

Someone needs to kick me in the ass a bit so that I start doing my own shit again.

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Why is is so damn addicting to shred paper? I use one at work and it's the highlight of my day to watch a piece of paper go through it. When my credit card expired a month ago (issued a new one), I impatiently waited all weekend so that I could finally go to work Monday and watch with absolute euphoria as the old one was reduced to 1" x 1/4" shreds.

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I bow to your discovery of that fact. It is in the best tradition of men that you have found that understanding. If you found a lady that understands it, you are indeed fortunate, because it can be easily confused with indifference, which was not what we were about at all... huh bud?
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It just sucks when I learn bad habits from people who I once thought were good for me. It extends to co-workers, family, and other friends too. One can only assert their own personality so far before their environment finally rubs off on them. It could be as simple as the rather annoying habit of ending spoken statements with "so..." or "but..." (just talk to people and/or watch television and count how many people end statements with that shit). Or, it could be something as bad as trying to shut down everybody's statements with a 'devil's advocate' response, even when said response doesn't really serve any purpose. Both are things I have caught myself doing after being around someone else that did it all the time around me, and now I have to try and remember to hit the brakes before that shit spews out of my mouth.

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a school lunch because I was running too late this morning to pack my own. It didn't suck! Our kids don't eat gourmet, but really, I'm pleasantly impressed. The salad, meatloaf, and mashed potatoes they served were pretty good, despite the ugly industrial-style sectional tray. The half-pint of milk was nowhere near enough though, but at $2.45 total, I can't complain. From what I hear, the kids don't have anything to throw away most days, so they're either really hungry to the point of not caring about bad food, or the food is good. I'm guessing we're pretty lucky and it's the latter of the two that is true. All my past schools gave food that I could get down in a pinch, but was mostly not very good.

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I want $2.45 lunch, because I will have to get off my butt, I hsve a cold, I am playing switchboard for family because my mom isn't doing so good, Daisy need petties, and nobody has called me today caring to help, quite the contrary.

The highlight of my day was talking to one of mom's care providers, a sturdy black woman named Sheika, whose cheerfulness was really welcome. I'm tellin' you guys, if I was 15 years younger!

I will have to find some way to return a favor.
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It was delivered this past Monday but haven't had time to post a pic. With such a good mattress set, I thought I would never want to get out of bed when the alarm screamed, but oddly enough, when it's time to get up; I feel well-rested and wide awake, and it's quite easy to get up. No more feeling like shit for the first hour of the day and still being drowsy after that. Made in USA.



There was a lot of other stuff tossed in, (frame, sheets, etc.) including these pillows. They are top half "memory foam" and bottom half latex foam (or vice-versa if you flip it). They are king sized (despite my link's saying queen only), and were tossed in to the mattress sale free despite being such high-end models. Made in Canada. The link is worth checking out.

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Everything above is advertised as naturally hypoallergenic and antimicrobial. I'll see if that holds true over time though.

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I like the shoes - do you mind telling me what model or price? They look like something I'd like to have to keep up with the dogs when they tow me around the neighborhood. The soles look to have a slightly aggressive tread pattern which could be quite handy in light snow while still not weighing much.

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Old 28th November 2009, 23:12   #2519
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Reebok is the brand, don't ask me what type they are.

they cost me only 29 euro's which is about 25 dollars

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Old 29th November 2009, 02:26   #2520
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Actually, 29 Euro is $43.47.

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