Old 24th July 2001, 00:40   #1
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dear all,

you might say I'm paranoid or psychic or I have the sixth sense, but whenever I smelled a rip it was true till now.

so, I'm sure this one is a rip:

http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=54060

it's not only because Alok Shah already ripped another skin - but can you imagine that a skinner with such skills would forget to skin the AVS ?

never

this is an old skin that originates from the time when there was no MB and AVS.

I looked into the archive and bingo - on two bmps the name of the original author shows up: bio-dorc

I searched the net for 'bio-dorc' but could not find her/him - so I'm asking you if you ever stumbled over this nick or have you seen this skin before ?


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Old 24th July 2001, 01:54   #2
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Oh yeah its a rip...

The Original Location of the Skin:
http://xke19.home.sohu.com/winamp/qwhtm/skin02.htm

The author is actually Japanese...Anyways, the actual date was quite some time ago...

I did not download it but, I remember having it some time ago....Once a thief always a thief. He's just becoming a more obscure one.


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Old 24th July 2001, 02:02   #3
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thank you garetjax
lets give those rippers a hard livin'
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Old 24th July 2001, 02:16   #4
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hmmm

stupid rippers....
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Old 24th July 2001, 04:03   #5
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you were right cyana.

Any skins by Alok Shah or Gavin Darklighter are probably rips in my experience.

Good work. Gonna run me outta business.

...a blatant person.
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Old 24th July 2001, 06:47   #6
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Alok Shah = biatch!
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Old 24th July 2001, 18:05   #7
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yup this Alok Shah guy is a notorious ripper
ok I reported it to the rip thread
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Old 25th July 2001, 07:41   #8
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Okay guys I'm convinced the Shining Metal Skin is a complete rip minus the transparency. So, I have spent the last hour or so going through all my sources. I believe this to be a revised earlier attempt at the 2.x Skins. Farely older

I also, edited the bmps in it and have come to the conclusing that it is indeed ripped by the areas of the image. Many places where textual info would show up are blurred and copied from areas next to it...

I'm still searching for the original...


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Old 25th July 2001, 12:30   #9
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garetjax, it seems that the original simply cropped the text.bmp, so it does not mess with the bullet in the right area of the main.bmp. This at least shows some intention that would be untypical for a steal ripper
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Old 25th July 2001, 14:24   #10
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drawing a line in the sand aye?

//Notice I fubbarred on the spelling of conclusion?//

lmao...

Anyways, its still a rip...even though some of the changes he made may have been for the better.

To my knowledge that is still what a rip II class?

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Old 25th July 2001, 17:30   #11
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yup - we actually could give it a I-II° grading

and Alok Shah already strikes back
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Old 26th July 2001, 01:46   #12
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I'd still like to find the original got any thoughts? What it may be named...

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Old 26th July 2001, 03:17   #13
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If a person rips enough skins, cant he be banned from the skin database?
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Old 26th July 2001, 04:30   #14
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hmmmmm

i don't think rippers should be bannned....

ripping is just "not nice" right?

it isn't nice to rip, but isn't it still legal?

I also haven't seen it written anywhere not to rip...

Sometimes ripping can be good..
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Old 26th July 2001, 11:15   #15
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I believe ripping = stealing intellectual property...and thus it's illegal, Bo
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Old 26th July 2001, 11:19   #16
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I believe ripping = stealing intellectual property...and thus it's illegal, Bo
yeah, but if your a "bad ass brutha from da hood", stealing is good, it scores you points in the "bad ass" league.
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Question....does skinlove qualify as a 'hood'?
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Old 26th July 2001, 11:42   #18
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hmmm

so you mean that a .zip file is propertly even though you can't really touch it?

If someone ripped one of my skins i'd laugh...unless they got more downloads than i did..then i'd rip the rip and have three of my skins on the site..
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Old 26th July 2001, 11:43   #19
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Question....does skinlove qualify as a 'hood'?
...cos I hear this cat Shah is one bad mother... **Shut yo mouth!**
..but I'm talkin' bout Shah!!!
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Old 26th July 2001, 14:52   #20
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Bojanglez, this is very clear - a skin you made on your own belongs to you and is your copyright == right to copy, publish, sell, whatever.

A skin rip is illegal like software piracy, even when there is no money involved. There can be exceptions from this rule, e.g. when you grant explicitly the right to everyone to edit and publish your skin in their name - this is what I do somehow with my template skin - I explicitly declare it as template so that everyone may copy and edit it and republish it as their own work. So when they do not skin e.g. the winshade mode they did not rip it from the template skin because they used the template skin in the way it's intended.

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