Old 20th August 2009, 22:24   #1
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Windows 7 or XP?

So I bought a laptop in June. It came with Vista Home Premium 32bit which I killed off within an hour of getting home(same with recovery partition). I instead installed windows 7 RC 32bit(on 64bit version now).

Windows 7 is awesome. I also like XP. Is it better to keep the currently installed Windows 7 RC or to install XP or Vista?

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Old 20th August 2009, 22:44   #2
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Windows 7. I love my Win 7 laptop and I also am running Win XP on a VM too.
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Old 21st August 2009, 00:01   #3
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ok 1 thing is for sure: vista aint an option.

i love my win7 on my laptop too. the only thing i hate about it is that its basically the same ugly and unproductive GUI that vista was. but its really fast and responsive. if you were still on XP i would say stick with it but as you are already on 7 i would stick with that for now. you gotta reinstall in october anyways :P
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Old 21st August 2009, 00:03   #4
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When the time comes, I am sure you will see the light ....

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and install the hacked version of OS X.
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Old 21st August 2009, 00:09   #5
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Just wait for Windows 7. It's supposed to be better, but who knows how they'll screw up the release.
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Old 21st August 2009, 01:09   #6
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When the time comes, I am sure you will see the light ....

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and install the hacked version of OS X.
Meaning I could install it on my laptop? Where would I get the OS X you speak of?

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Old 21st August 2009, 01:42   #7
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So I bought a laptop in June. It came with Vista Home Premium 32bit
Damn dude, if you would've waited just a little bit longer you could've gotten a free upgrade to 7.

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Just wait for Windows 7. It's supposed to be better, but who knows how they'll screw up the release.
I'm using the release version right now and there's nothing screwy about it at all.
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Old 21st August 2009, 01:46   #8
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If you like virus, worry about next release point to buy another computer, need to search a "good" anti-virus, "good" firewall, worry about falling WGA, use the same desktop theme, search for "hacked" OS, and you like it because "everyone" use it...sure try Windows 7.

Of course, there are options... =)


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Old 21st August 2009, 01:46   #9
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I noticed the upgrade thing couple of weeks after I bought the thing. Kind of disappointed about that. Not going to cry about it though.

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Old 21st August 2009, 03:05   #10
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There are versions of OS X that can be obtained firm unwholesome places that are said to be able to be installed on any i386 computer. These versions of the OS are hacked in that it is fooled into thinking it is being installed on a i386 mac.
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Old 21st August 2009, 09:20   #11
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Meaning I could install it on my laptop? Where would I get the OS X you speak of?
Search for osx86.

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Old 21st August 2009, 12:23   #12
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indeed. and you should not be confused with the OS X86 Project as this is absolutely not what I am referencing.
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Old 21st August 2009, 13:00   #13
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If you're going to go that route, cut out the fat and go with an actual BSD variant.

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Old 23rd August 2009, 15:52   #14
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well wht i feel is XP is the best.
always, old is the gold lol
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Old 23rd August 2009, 17:42   #15
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That's what people said about Windows 98 up until a few years ago
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Old 23rd August 2009, 20:10   #16
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I'd have to say Windows 7.
Although I have always loved XP, and totally bypassed Vista ciz it's garbage, I installed Windows 7 on my netbook, and not only does it look awsome, it totally flies on it.
Amazing OS. I'm lovin it!!
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Old 23rd August 2009, 21:36   #17
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Of course, there are options... =)
Yep. Linux becomes an increasing viable option(using Ubuntu on a netbook right now). I didn't really think running OSX was an option because while it's been converted to an Intelish platform, Macs are a very specific flavor of PC.

It seems like MS comes up with an acceptable, even decent, OS every other OS. Vista wasn't it, so maybe we're due.

XP is getting rapidly dated. It's a half way decent option today, but even Vista had some far better ideas. It just sucks in the implementation.
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Old 24th August 2009, 02:16   #18
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Macs are a very specific flavor indeed. However, they do just work. Plus, they are rock solid. That's the reason why I have two now. Would not trust anything else hole DJ'ing to be honest. Let's face it, if the computer crashes and your sound dies during a gig you are toast.

I can't tell you how many times Windows bit it on me. My Macs have never done that.
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Old 24th August 2009, 19:07   #19
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Old 25th August 2009, 01:24   #20
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Macs are a niche market. If they do what you need them to do, they are a great machine.

That being said. The hardware in not cutting edge. The software titles are rather limited. They are twice as expensive.

Those are some pretty big drawbacks. I also think you can build/buy a PC that is just as stable as a Mac. A little caveat emptor for choosing computers or their components yields stable machines.

Part of the problem with Windows machines is a vulnerability to viruses. That's simple. Use linux when you are going to porn sites

I think the virus invulnerability of linux and osx is largely imaginary. I know I've had a linux dedicated server hacked and never had windows penetrated.

Mac's and linux just make a lesser target. There is less malware to load. Also less software to enjoy.

I was thinking about a Macbook, but then I bought a netbook and installed Ubuntu. The machine is sort of unstable running XP due to fubar device drivers, but is completely stable with Ubuntu.

If I was Rockefeller, I'd have a Mac too! That would be "too" because it's not suitable as an only computer. There are a lot of things a PC will do that a Mac won't. Not much in the way of vice-versa.
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Old 28th August 2009, 07:45   #21
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Another vote for Win 7. Both my laptop and desktop dual boot Win 7 and Ubuntu 9.04 but lately I have been using Windows more often than not. Not to say I haven’t had problems with it.
Last fall I built a desktop pc for one of our kids and got the bug to build something more modern for myself to take full advantage of the newest 64-bit Linux builds. But after getting done with it I found the only way to install the latest firmware to the motherboard was through a Windows based utility, what a load of crap! So after repartioning one of the hard drives and installing Win XP for a one time use they released the Win 7 beta, so I wiped the XP install and installed the beta. I was actually impressed with a MS product for the first time in quite a while.
About this time I got a pair of hard drives to increase the storage in my laptop and since I was doing a fresh install I decided to install the beta on it too. Not quite as impressive this time. Not really MS’s fault though. My model of laptop was discontinued a couple of months before Vista was released and the manufacturer decided not to offer any support (drivers) for Vista on my machine. Lots of work to get all the hardware to work right under the beta. And I never did get iTunes to work after transferring my 14,000 song library to the laptop.
As soon as the Win 7 RC came out I did a fresh install on the laptop and every thing worked on first boot, even the internal wireless card I had added to the laptop after the warranty had expired. It even recognized my Raid 0 partition in the install process without have to load drivers. And iTunes happily streamed my music to the various Airport Express’s strewn about our house again.
But when the beta expired on my desktop pc and I did a fresh install of the release candidate I ended up with an infinite loop because of borked drivers for my video card included with the RC. The Nvidia drivers include in the RC won’t allow for DVI output on some Nvidia chipsets and the VGA input on my monitor had quit functioning some time ago so I ended up getting a new monitor to finish the install.
But overall I am very happy with Win 7, especially the much improved Media Center. Its nice that I can get the ClearQAM digital channels without any tweaking or registry hacks, especially after the completely crappy experience I had with that in XP and Ubuntu’s refusal to even acknowledge I have a TV tuner.
I am also looking forward to 64-bit computing, especially being able to use more than 3something gb’s of RAM. If there had been more widespread (cheaper) support of 64-bit in XP I might not be quite so enthused but since I see XP’s overall support waning I would have to recommend Win 7 for now and the near future.

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[edit]Use linux and your neighbors unprotected wireless connection when you are going to porn sites [/edit]
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Old 28th August 2009, 20:12   #22
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I mention it to my neighbors when I detect that they are running unprotected connections, so I guess I screwed myself there Gone are the days when I didn't care if you parked under the shade tree in my front yard and checked your email.
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Old 28th August 2009, 20:28   #23
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Gone are the days when I had my own internet connection. At least the neighbors do.

Since Windows 7 has been far more stable than XP(and all the votes for it) I'm keeping it. And I'll get the retail version when I can. That is if it's not somehow screwed up.

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Old 28th August 2009, 21:23   #24
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Another vote for Windows 7. Its time to let Xp go.
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Old 28th August 2009, 22:30   #25
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Windows 7 is not my choice yet. It doesn't have the "classic" start menu anymore, which is a huge impact on my productivity. I can't see a reason to switch from my preinstalled Vista with the classic start menu which has been in since Windows 95... why should I have to change the way I use Windows after all the years?

The new "superbar", which is kind of an improvement anyway, is also available for XP and Vista (ViGlance). Pinning items will also be implemented. Any more reasons to use Windows 7? So far, I don't see anything I can't have for free in XP and Vista.

On my development machine, I'll stick with XP. I don't need that Aero bullsh*t there, nor do I need the new Explorer (there are way better file managers out there). The .NET framework works fine on XP, too, so what?

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Old 29th August 2009, 00:12   #26
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win7 has a classic start menue. and you can disable that aero bullshit even tho my benchmarks showed that it doesnt affect fps while playing UT3 at all.
my only problem is that they are still using the unporductive, unintuitive ugly gui that vista is. especially for windows explorer.
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Old 29th August 2009, 00:16   #27
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win7 has a classic start menue.
In which build? In the ones I know it isn't available.

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my only problem is that they are still using the unporductive, unintuitive ugly gui that vista is. especially for windows explorer.
Tried alternative file managers? Way faster, too.

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I couldn't care less about Windows, but I'd just like to pop in and say that you have a great username, /usr/bin/Tux

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Old 29th August 2009, 01:10   #29
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In which build? In the ones I know it isn't available.
I'm running the RC and it's got the clasic menu.
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Why would you want the classic menu? I like the newer one. Though I do kind of miss the quicklaunch.

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The newer one is ugly and a waste of screen space.

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I couldn't care less about Windows, but I'd just like to pop in and say that you have a great username, /usr/bin/Tux
Yep. That's pretty good for a username. Most of the time I could care less about Windows, except when Windows makes me want to choke someone..
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Old 29th August 2009, 11:19   #34
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Windows 7 rc has exceeded any expectations i had after vista.
I found it quicker and more reliable than xp sp3.

I missed out on the free upgrade to win 7 by 1 friggin day! Gutted.

I will be going out and buying 7 as soon as it is released
and ive never said that before about any version of windows.
Just hope they dont bloat it up before release.

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In which build? In the ones I know it isn't available.
the RC has it. it doesnt have the XP start menue tho (neither has vista)

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Tried alternative file managers? Way faster, too.
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Old 29th August 2009, 15:17   #37
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Given that we talk about freeware here:
xplorer² lite, freeCommander, Q-Dir, Cubic Explorer.

But Directory Opus is also cool.

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I'm not replacing 2 Vista boxes with Windows 7. Microsoft is getting as little money from me as possible.
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I'm not replacing 2 Vista boxes with Windows 7. Microsoft is getting as little money from me as possible.
This is my biggest gripe about Win 7. Yesterday I upgraded (?) my two Intel Macs to Snow Leopard, total cost = $52. To upgrade my two Windows machines to Win 7 will be at least $270. And in order to keep the current version I am running, including some features I use that aren’t included in the Home Premium version it will be $490. It only cost me $580 to build the tower for my desktop last year (Nvidia chipset mobo, 2.4gz Core Duo 2, 4gb Crucial DDR3 RAM, 1tb WD HDD, Samsung DVD/RW, Antec mid-tower w/ 380w 80+ PS, Hauppauge dual tuner digital TV card, Ubuntu 8.10). And I may have to upgrade to the more expensive version because all of my copies of XP are the professional version. I am waiting to see how this all works out after the retail version ships, and then see what kinds of discounts I can get through the couple of contacts I still have in the computing industry.
At this point I am planning to get Win 7 for my desktop PC when it is released, unless someone comes up with a solution that allows me to use my TV tuner card in Ubuntu. I have become used to being able to use my PC as a second DVR and stream media to my home theater through the xbox 360.
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Ubuntu? I thought it was just a hype...

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