Old 1st February 2015, 17:44   #1
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Goodbye Flash - and Good Riddance

Youtube has switched to HTML 5 as the default delivery method for video.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/int...-html5-1282448

Flash started out as something pretty cool - but it just got buggier and clunkier as time went on. The only ones left using Flash of any relevance are the advertising services - and I expect them to switch soon.

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Old 2nd February 2015, 01:23   #2
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The only ones left using Flash of any relevance are the advertising services
i would have said those doing streaming radio and wanting site players were still of noticeable relevance when it comes to Flash usage even with the beginning of the migration to HTML5 audio players (primarily via Flash/HTML5 hybrids), albeit a lot slower than would be liked.
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Old 2nd February 2015, 02:13   #3
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Android stopped distributing the official Flash player since Jelly Bean.

Adobe Flash Player is no longer available in Google Play Store.

Apple products do not support Flash.

Flash has not released any updates for Unix or *nix type systems.
(The open source alternatives for Adobe Flash have failed to provide significant updates.)

Content distribution sites such as Scribd have previously switched to HTML 5 as the primary method for content display.

Adobe Flash has been recently hit by another round of zero-day vulnerabilities and malware attacks.

http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2014/07...p-using-flash/

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...on-the-desktop

Flash stopped issuing updates on market penetration of the flash player plugin.

That is not very indicative of a healthy marketing campaign, especially with the dissolve of Youtube - one of the webs biggest content distributors.

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Old 2nd February 2015, 02:35   #4
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i'm not saying that Flash going the way of the dodo is not a bad thing, just that there's still a lot of of cases where Flash is still wanting to be used by people, be that from a lack of knowledge or for technical reasons which HTML5 audio / video don't allow for i.e. lack of codec support in certain cases / platforms which is where Flash does still fit in. look at the mess and time it took for Firefox to finally do MP3 stream playback via HTML5 audio which left Flash as the only real option for such browser users to access MP3 audio streams.

as for most of your points, they're the same things others have been reeling off for years about the demise of Flash. technology has it's time and moves on, that's all that is happening, just that HTML5 and specifically the audio / video aspects have been sub-par until recently (and still are in a number of areas imho) which is why for such cases, Flash is still being made use off as that's the only way to do things (even if it's used as a fallback mode for cases where the HTML5 audio / video implementation being used is lacking).

though with decent / complete HTML5 adoption all being generally reliant on OS / browser integration to do things, it's still going to be a while before Flash is fully gone from the specific use case that I was referring to as HTML5 audio playback is still a mess (due to variations in codec support, etc).

sure it's probably already declined a lot in usage, but does it really matter - services need to provide what is relevant to what their user base supports and clearly for youtube, etc they're seeing enough to being making a default change. web technologies change and evolve and go away over time, it's just a cycle which varies for others and Flash (irrespective of liking it or not) has managed to have a long existence, be that good or bad, that's just how it is.
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Old 3rd February 2015, 07:29   #5
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Android stopped distributing the official Flash player since Jelly Bean.

Adobe Flash Player is no longer available in Google Play Store.

Apple products do not support Flash.

Flash has not released any updates for Unix or *nix type systems.
(The open source alternatives for Adobe Flash have failed to provide significant updates.)

Content distribution sites such as Scribd have previously switched to HTML 5 as the primary method for content display.

Adobe Flash has been recently hit by another round of zero-day vulnerabilities and malware attacks.

http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2014/07...p-using-flash/

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...on-the-desktop

Flash stopped issuing updates on market penetration of the flash player plugin.

That is not very indicative of a healthy marketing campaign, especially with the dissolve of Youtube - one of the webs biggest content distributors.


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Old 5th February 2015, 04:19   #6
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Adobe has announced that Flash Player 11.1 would be the last version of that software for mobile devices, and has abandoned Flash on connected TVs.

Also, on Monday, Adobe Flash Player users were hit by a zero-day flaw for the third time in two weeks.

The company issued a security advisory for the vulnerability, which it dubbed CVE-2015-0313.

The flaw exists in Flash Player 16.0.0.296 and earlier versions on Windows and Macintosh platforms. Successful exploitation could crash the desktop and potentially let hackers take control of it, Adobe warned.

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It's really sad. Flash was the best tool for animation on the Web, until Adobe took it over. I can actually program in flash; I'm not so fluent in HTML 5.

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It's about time. Flash is being exploited by malware all the time.
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