Old 14th July 2010, 23:10   #1
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Loudcaster (Comming Soon)

I'm very excited to tell everyone about a NEW stream provider that offers Royalty licensing included with their service. Loudcaster is very exciting for they not only offer Live stream hosting, but a whopping 10 Gigs of AutoDJ that can be scheduled VERY EASY to play station IDs, not to repeat Artist for X Minutes, Not to repeat a song for X Minutes, not to repeat songs from the same Album for X Minutes. This means that during days of severe weather in your area you can allow Loudcaster to AutoDJ without worries at all. I've beta tested this great service and I can't wait till they go Live which is very soon and The Legacy will have Loudcaster's service on iTunes.

Loudcaster takes all of the worries of e-mailing every Radio directory you can think of for they already have good standing with one of the most important Radio directories RadioTime and will make your station available on devices like the Squeezebox (A wifi Internet Radio receiver for True Audiophiles), Internet Radio's in cars and more. Loudcaster is currently working on getting the word out so your station will definitely be heard.

Want a sample of Loudcaster's web streaming check out http://thelegacyrocks.tk for great Album oriented Rock on Loudcaster.

Head over to Loudcaster.com for more details. Get your name on the waiting list and tell them thelegacy sent you. you'll be happy you did. Stop calculating ATH to support your Royalty licensing and start doing what you do best your Radio show.

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Old 21st July 2010, 23:49   #2
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Hey mods isn't this considered spam?

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Old 22nd July 2010, 18:21   #3
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Sort of, but it is a service that the hobbycaster desperately needs (royalty licensing), so I think it was tolerated. It was a single post and not spread all over the forum, so that probably helped. If it suddenly becomes way too repetitive then I'm sure they will do something about it. It is also not clear the connection between the poster and the service, could be the poster is just a customer of theirs and happy with the service and wanted to let other people know what is happening (same reason I have what I have in my signature).

I suggest we let it float and see what happens before calling SPAMMER on this one, but if it truly offends you then hit the little triangle with the ! inside and let them know.

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Old 22nd July 2010, 18:47   #4
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Hey mods isn't this considered spam?
Not in this case, although it's admittedly borderline.

I let it stand because the Original Poster (OP) has 60 posts in history, has been a member of the forum for over a year, and a review of past posts does not show any trend of the user pushing a particular product or service. Based on this analysis, I concluded that this is a well-intentioned effort to share a new service of interest to broadcasters. I did remove the pricing info though. If people want info on costs and more details, they can visit Loudcaster themselves.
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Old 23rd July 2010, 00:31   #5
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what does "Royalty licensing included" actually mean?

Is it just me or are shoutcast users getting dumber?
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Old 23rd July 2010, 14:13   #6
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looks just like loudcity .... so why not go there ? although competition is always good.

T&Cs seem to cover the same things.

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Old 23rd July 2010, 15:56   #7
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what does "Royalty licensing included" actually mean?
"Loudcaster charges a recurring monthly service fee relating to amounts owed or will be owed to ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and to Sound Exchange ("Licensors'") based on the User's webcasting activities under Loudcaster's master licenses with those organizations."
(From http://www.loudcaster.com/tos)
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"Loudcaster charges a recurring monthly service fee relating to amounts owed or will be owed to ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and to Sound Exchange ("Licensors'") based on the User's webcasting activities under Loudcaster's master licenses with those organizations."
(From http://www.loudcaster.com/tos)
So, really, Loudcaster only "covers" royalty payments for USA broadcasters. An important point that does not seem to be mentioned

Is it just me or are shoutcast users getting dumber?
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Old 23rd July 2010, 17:54   #9
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looks just like loudcity .... so why not go there ? although competition is always good.

T&Cs seem to cover the same things.

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Old 23rd July 2010, 18:43   #10
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So, really, Loudcaster only "covers" royalty payments for USA broadcasters. An important point that does not seem to be mentioned
This is the norm, but PPL and MCPRS are such as pain to work with no wonder ( European coverage ).

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I support this thread 100%

Everyone is trying to define what they can and cant do, the definitions of JLA terms, what applies to them. The difference between hobby entertainment broadcast and small JLA, ATH tracking station.

I really like this service, because it splits Loudcitys hosted JLA services (AKA the hobby plans) from people that like to run and manage a server, like to track ATH, look at statistics, use LC services for extentions of FM stations, and generally had a lot of experience in the trade, and want to do a regular JLA on their own terms.

It a good move, because the rules for each service can be more defined. Hobby broadcasters dont have to hear stuff like ATH, unless their interested. They manage everything, and it keeps the hobby broadcasters doing what they love, broadcasting safely while keeping their mind off everything else.

I mean seriously, for live365, SWcast, loudcity, and I know customers from all fields look at the forum; how many times have you seen a user/customer/client ask if this applies to a hobby plan, or had them seem timid because the pro plans that dont apply to them make them ask about stuff that doesnt apply to them, they get cold feet, and jet out on what could have been a great hobby for them? Man that was a run-on sentence.

LIVE 365 HAS BEEN DOING AWESOME THINGS AS WELL! From flash players to embeddable station widgets, ALL the JLA services are stepping up their game. Its a good move, and one thats needed in a time where border line on-demand services like pandora and myspace music, not that they are evil, threaten this industry more than ever for the new guy trying to break in.

For an established station that was in the business when it was booming? No threat. You have established a loyal listening audience. But to the new guy trying to brake into the industry? It can be a NIGHTMARE to brake 200-500 ATH a month. A lot of lucky breaks, good friends that spread the word, ect, and it can happen. But its a MUCH steeper uphill battle than it used to be in then in 2000.

No matter who it is, we should all be supporting the JLA for the American hobby broadcaster. If these services didnt exsist, hobby broadcasting here might be dead. That or I turn to a genre and service outside the US. OR...Creative Commons. SE is throwing violations out at the moment like candy. Theres no point for an unexperienced hobby broadcaster to pay FULL licensing fees if hes barely breaking 1000 ATH a month, he will just lose TONS of money, because in this economy, advertizing can be cheap, even if you do have your own advertisers, its just a pit. At least a hobby broadcaster can have a fixed rate and know what hes stepping into. I'll pound on every door in my community the moment these entitys call on me. I know other broadcasters will too. They have had our back for a while. I may seem biased at times, but I support them all, because they support the hobbycasters out there.

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Not in this case, although it's admittedly borderline.

I let it stand because the Original Poster (OP) has 60 posts in history, has been a member of the forum for over a year, and a review of past posts does not show any trend of the user pushing a particular product or service. Based on this analysis, I concluded that this is a well-intentioned effort to share a new service of interest to broadcasters. I did remove the pricing info though. If people want info on costs and more details, they can visit Loudcaster themselves.
You let it stand bc you ARE LC...lol

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You let it stand bc you ARE LC...lol
No, Aaron. I let it it stand because it's relevent to broadcasters, not pushing porn or sex pills, and the poster is a customer of the service sharing an experience. It doesn't even contain a link to the site.

Full disclosure - Yes, I help out at LoudCity with tech support for newbie broadcasters and help run their forums. (I do similar things here, but does that mean I am AOL?)

I firmly believe that if it were not for places like Live365, SWCast, LoudCity and LoudCaster, legally broadcasting music online in the USA would be a hobby that only millionaires could afford. All these services are all good for the hobbyist who wants to run a shoutcast music station and not be in violation of copyright laws. I've seen posts about all these services before and never considered them to be spam.

But I'm not God here - I'll put in a request backstage for other mods/admins to review this topic. It never hurts to get a second opinion. If the consensus backstage is that the original post *is* spam and I was wrong to let it stand, I'll be happy to remove it.
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I firmly believe that if it were not for places like Live365, SWCast, LoudCity and LoudCaster, legally broadcasting music online in the USA would be a hobby that only millionaires (and pirates) could afford.
Fixed that for you.

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But I'm not God here - I'll put in a request backstage for other mods/admins to review this topic. It never hurts to get a second opinion. If the consensus backstage is that the original post *is* spam and I was wrong to let it stand, I'll be happy to remove it.

What? You actually think Nick hasn't read this post? If he wanted it gone, it would be gone.

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I was interested to hear about the subject of this post. I think because it's so "on-topic" with the forum, it doesn't really qualify as advertising.
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I just wish the UK Agencies were as forthcoming with co-operation.

I have read it and if Dotme thinks it can stay that's good enough for me,

Remember we are only trying to help which is all i ever see Dotme do 100% of the time.
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I just wish the UK Agencies were as forthcoming with co-operation.

I have read it and if Dotme thinks it can stay that's good enough for me,

Remember we are only trying to help which is all i ever see Dotme do 100% of the time.
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Old 14th August 2010, 17:03   #19
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Loudcaster is run by the folks at LoudCity. In short, they're both one & the same. Only difference is one supports Auto DJing while the other doesn't.

I know this as I've jumped to Loudcaster myself.

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Old 27th August 2010, 01:30   #20
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Here is an easy way to sign up for Loudcaster:

http://myradiostation.tk

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Old 27th August 2010, 05:21   #21
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Here is a better link that doesn't mask the original URL and also is faster:

http://myradiostation.24ex.com

Sorry for the double post there.

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