Old 19th January 2013, 16:20   #1
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Mandatory Win. Live Messenger to Skype: questions

History:

I was a heavy AIM [America Online Instant Messenger] user back in the day. It's how I learned to type fast, and how I got people to show up at my gigs, among other uses such as file sharing. I learned about DeadAIM, which "fixed" the annoyances of AIM while adding a ton of useful features.

Then, I found some people preferred Yahoo Instant Messenger and MSN Messenger, so I was signing in on all those too, until I found Trillian, which got me on all at once. There's also a program called Pidgin that does this, but is missing a lot of key features.

Eventually everyone I knew started to just stick with MSN, which was eventually renamed Windows Live Messenger. I use it now for a few things, but mostly video chat with friends and family across the continent and occasionally across oceans. I used to be able to draw diagrams in chat to help people, they could see and draw too, and I'd see them. File sharing was very easy.

I loved the "apatch" that could be downloaded for it. Apatch got rid of ads, allowed more than 3 simultaneous files to be transferred, logged conversations (good for faster saving of tech support), allowed "polygamy" - multiple usernames at once - work and personal on one computer for example, and made features and components customizable/removable, like Winamp you might say.

Currently:

Microsoft has bought Skype and is dropping Windows Live Messenger very soon. I have installed Skype and used it for video chat with family. Not bad I guess.

I would like any advice from people that are familiar with Skype. I'd like to have all the features I've been spoiled by that I listed before, and I'm interested in learning whatever else is out there.

Skype is good because a lot of people I know like to chat on phones and tablets/iPads, and I can't do that with Microsoft stuff. From what I understand, this is good with Google Chat too, and Google Chat allows multiple people in one session for free, whereas it's a paid feature in Skype. This could be good for multiple family members or friends, especially when planning our holiday or vacation get-togethers. I haven't tried Google Chat yet; any advice on this program or patches/plugins/customizations are appreciated too.

Finally, I am not a facebook user for a long list of reasons. I don't disapprove of it for other people; it's just not for me. Any discussion about it is ok, but won't help me much in this thread.

Thanks in advance for any help!

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Old 19th January 2013, 18:46   #2
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Not gonna help, but it's funny how things evolve eh, I too was a heavy AIM user, used to chat with the mods and admins of this place on it all the time, but found some people would only ever use yahoo or icq, oddly , never knew anyone who used msn, then over the years they all drifted off onto other formats.

Nowadays I only ever seem to chat with people via FB or iMessage on the ipad....I do have Skype loaded on here and never had any problems with it other than the usual insufficient bandwidth and dodgy audio now and then, more a problem with my shit broadband than anything I suspect.

Can't say I've looked at google anything really, I signed up for g+ and got slightly burnt by the fact that the ipad app decided to upload my entire photostream despite me not giving it permission to do so and me not realising for some time afterwards, lord knows how long my tranny porn collection was visible to people , to that end I've stayed clear of google products, even scaling back on my gmail usage for good measure .

No help there, but thanks for the prod of the memory cell and making me think back to the glory days of aim, boy I had some laughs on there, late night chatting with the skinning community, hunting down forum spammers with the admin here, made friendships with strangers that exist to this day both in the real world and online world, happy days....

Carry on, back under my rock I go...
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Old 19th January 2013, 21:30   #3
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Yeah, I found some stuff under one of those rocks too.

DeadAIM logged everything. Occasionally I'll go back to the archives. It's amazing what I missed when in the conversation at the time, things I pick up on now. My whole life would be different if I would have read what people typed the way I do now, in some ways better, in some ways worse. MSN and Trillian logged too.

I'd never sink to use such things for blackmail, drama, or embarrassment, but if I wanted to... then again, my part could have been as bad or worse.

I have to agree about the nostalgia. It reminds me about those that have come and gone, those that helped, those that hurt, those that had me laughing to tears. Mostly it's a collection and record of setting up and recapping events that happened outside of the online world, things I hope I never forget, and things I wish I did forget.

It's not the same anymore, but it's still important, since most of my friends have moved all over the continent. Setting up events is now a situation involving long planning, babysitters, pet kennels, flights, hotels, rental cars, far too much money, etc. It used to be spontaneous hopping on a bus or bike or just changing floors, winning really creative contests so that you became the one that didn't have to pay for something, sleeping on couches or floors, and making some sort of group promise to pretend that we didn't remember what happened.

I'll never get most of that back, but I still want to be able to communicate in the best way possible online. Anyone else here a past AIM typer? Anyone else know Skype or Google Messenger well?

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Old 19th January 2013, 21:45   #4
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There is someone on these very forums that still has a logged icq conversation that i had with them from way way back, years later it was fabulous thing to meet up with them in person and see finally where that conversation had taken them, boggles my mind sometimes, the power of the Internet and all that....
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Old 20th January 2013, 01:03   #5
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There is someone on these very forums that still has a logged icq conversation that i had with them from way way back, years later it was fabulous thing to meet up with them in person and see finally where that conversation had taken them, boggles my mind sometimes, the power of the Internet and all that....
Thanks for reminding me, I keep forgetting to email you. Sorry to say that at some point in the last year or two, I've seemingly thought it would be a good idea to DELETE all my old chat logs. I have no fucking idea why the fuck I would do such a thing, but I apparently did so, and now they're gone. I checked all my backups, tried R-Studio to see if it was still recoverable on any of my backup drives... all to no avail.

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Old 20th January 2013, 01:14   #6
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@ Jones - hopefully you still have it? Even if not, its purpose will never stop being served, and you luckily will never forget it.

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Old 20th January 2013, 01:25   #7
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No, I don't have it, never one for logging things and my machine that I had said chat on long since died...

I do recall exactly where I had the conversation though, it was a lunchtime, I was eating my lunch while doing a bit of 56k surfing off a spare modem line in one of the server rooms at work,using my trusty old Dell laptop, I escaped to the server rooms for a bit of peace and quiet away from my desk, that and the fact it was always lovely and cool in there as well.

Odd really, never really used ICQ much, chatted to a young lady friend occasionally on a lunch break, Vanessa was her name, turned out to be a right loon in the end, but there one day was Mr Jaz on my screen, shame the logs got deleted, would have liked to have seen exactly what was said again that day, see if I dished out any sage like Jones advice

Like I say, funny old place the internet and especially chat protocols, I would say without a doubt my circle of friends would definitely be smaller today without such things as AIM / ICQ etc etc, even this place for that matter.

Anyhow, I'm leading your thread off course, be posting dinosaur pictures next...
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Old 20th January 2013, 01:47   #8
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I'm kinda curious about these things as well. I've got AOL, Yahoo, Live, and Google accounts. I use Pidgin for instant messaging through all of them with one program (though, I don't have contacts for all of those accounts). I know that MS will be discontinuing their Messenger program, but what will happen to the protocol? Is Skype taking it over? Since I use Pidgin, will it even affect me?
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Old 20th January 2013, 02:01   #9
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sarge: http://blog.trillian.im/?p=2684 may help answer (i know it's for a different IM client but it's basically doing the same thing).

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and re-found http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Microsof...ews-16612.html (knew i'd read about it a few days ago but couldn't remember where from until now, heh).

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Old 20th January 2013, 02:36   #10
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Thanks for the links.

One thing I'm still not clear on, though. Will I be able to sign into Skype (or rather, use Skype's network/protocol through my IM program) using my Live account? I haven't seen anything that specifically states this, unless I just overlooked it. Reason I ask is that if I have to create a new account to use Skype's network/protocol, I'm not going to bother. If I can just use my @live email account like I can now, then I'll just do that.

I saw this bit on the Trillian blog:
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One point of later clarification: until Microsoft starts rejecting Skype logins from your original Skype usernames, you can still use Skype through Trillian with your Skype usernames. It won’t be until a Windows Account is required that Trillian in its current form will have trouble signing in, and hopefully the SDK will be updated by then.
It's worded in such a way that it makes me think I'll be able to use my Live account to use Skype, but it doesn't specifically say that, so I'm not sure.
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i'm not too sure myself as there's a handful of different account acces types for msn. really for the moment just keep doing things as you already are and keep an eye out for client updates in the coming months (is all i'm going to do though i barely use msn so if it does go off completely without a 3rd party solution i'm not going to be too miffed).

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Aye, same here.
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Old 20th January 2013, 03:29   #13
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I currently log into and video chat with Skype using my Hotmail/Live/MSN accounts; I never created a new Skype account. I'm not sure if that's possible through Pidgin yet though, as I haven't tried it.

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Old 29th January 2013, 06:22   #14
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This makes me hopeful that it'll work for me when they update Pidgin. That'd be pretty sweet.
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Old 30th January 2013, 02:01   #15
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My family and I have finally given the "hangout" feature on Google a try. You just need a gmail account (even if you don't use it for email) and a web cam/microphone. The "hangout" video chat allows multiple people at once, something I've done twice now with family members, where they were located in Nevada, Ohio, and me in West Virginia. It worked pretty well.

I hope that some day an open source program can be written ad-free that can do all this. That would be really nice.

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