Old 1st June 2013, 02:17   #1
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tracks that work in VLC & WMP show as 0:00 in winamp

this is the first time this has happened to me and i have done a clean install of winamp already and it just did the same thing, if anyone knows whats going on or how i can get round it i'd love to know.

i thought the tracks were broken but they play fine in VLC and WMP i just don't want to use either of those as my media player

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Old 1st June 2013, 05:04   #2
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mp3? winamp ver? OS?

try running them thru mp3val.

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Old 1st June 2013, 12:39   #3
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providing a small example file which shows the issue would be preferable.
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Old 1st June 2013, 23:54   #4
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mp3? winamp ver? OS?

try running them thru mp3val.
yes they are mp3
the latest version of winamp, as i said i did a clean install
and win 7

and i would have to say i don't know what that is

as for an example of the files it is "Culprate - The Great Expedition EP" all the songs
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Old 2nd June 2013, 00:05   #5
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DrO means to upload a file to a site like 4shared.com so he can test it himself, b4 you try to fix it.

mp3val is a program (google it) that fixes errors in mp3 headers that can cause the incorrect length issue you're reporting.

do the songs otherwise play, and its just the length that's wrong?

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Old 2nd June 2013, 00:43   #6
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DrO means to upload a file to a site like 4shared.com so he can test it himself, b4 you try to fix it.

mp3val is a program (google it) that fixes errors in mp3 headers that can cause the incorrect length issue you're reporting.

do the songs otherwise play, and its just the length that's wrong?
well i have a dropbox link

and no they don't play at all in winamp it just instantly goes to the next track, but they show as the right length and play perfectly on VLC & WMP

also mp3val said the problem is an unknown file type ?!?! and won't fix it
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Old 2nd June 2013, 00:50   #7
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This is the 4th time writing this post

The tracks play perfectly in VLC & WMP, they show as the right length and play fine,
in they show as 0:00 and don't play other than a pause to skip to the next track.

mp3val said
"Analyzing file "E:\Music\Culprate - The Great Expedition EP\01 Scarred.mp3"...
ERROR: "E:\Music\Culprate - The Great Expedition EP\01 Scarred.mp3": Unknown file format"

!?!? it won't / can't fix it either

and i have a dropbox link as well

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ui6mr4tc1bihons/2ZpSylgo6U
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Old 2nd June 2013, 00:52   #8
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hey man, i'm just a user trying to help you, a stranger. if that's not appreciated, i'll happily bow out.

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Old 2nd June 2013, 00:56   #9
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it is appreciated, what isn't is the forum not posting my post 3 times, also after using this program, i saw the same error on a couple of other tracks as well, and they are all mp3's so i don't know how to fix it
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ok, lets move forward then.

I DL'd your first file, and my beta would not play it either.

WMP did. mp3tag can't even begin to figure it out tho.

so my guess is it isn't a mp3 at all. try gspot or SUPER or MediaInfo to identify the actual codec used to create these files.

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i don't know what those programs are ? :/
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they are programs that identify the codecs used to create audio and video files. your files are likely not mp3s, but something else and just mislabeled. winamp will probably play them once the right extension is on them, which the programs above will help you identify. just google em, like "mediainfo codec" etc

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Old 2nd June 2013, 01:21   #13
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it looks like they are all mp4's
"General : E:\Music\Culprate - The Great Expedition EP\01 Scarred.mp3
Format : MPEG-4 at 283 Kbps
Length : 8.32 MiB for 4mn 6s 967ms

Audio #0 : AAC at 256 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 44.1 KHz
Language : en"
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looks like they are all mp4's
General : E:\Music\Culprate - The Great Expedition EP\01 Scarred.mp3
Format : MPEG-4 at 283 Kbps
Length : 8.32 MiB for 4mn 6s 967ms

Audio #0 : AAC at 256 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 44.1 KHz
Language : en
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correct.

I renamed the file I DL'd to Scarred.m4a and it works in winamp fine. (m4a is basically the audio ver of a mp4)

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so i guess thats all i have to do just rename all of them to m4a ?
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yep, assuming all the broken ones are m4a's. winamp is just less tolerant (prob a good thing ultimately) than VLC or WMP of files that have mislabeled extensions.

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ok now this is going to sound really stupid, i just renamed them, and it is now just saying it is Scarred.m4a.mp3
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you have to adjust your windows settings to show known extensions. its the extension you want to rename, not the filename itself.

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well thank you kind sir that has fixed my problem and gained me 2 programs that couls probably help me again in the future
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np. sorry I misunderstood your earlier post, I thought it was directed at me, (it was fairly unclear). the forums can be flakey for posting, esp with new users.

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there is no need to be sorry, i seem to have a way of saying things in such a way as to anger people when that wasn't the intention, but it only gets resolved when people are sensible enough to say something as you did and allow me to correct myself / apologize. but thank you again for the help the tracks play fine now, and it even looks like the clean install fixed not saving my playlists properly sometimes
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my understanding is that the new beta has done a fairly big overhaul to playlist handling, so you might want to try it out. I like the newest beta, its mostly stable, its just new stuff like the cloud that needs work. plus, you could give feedback into playlist handling, so they might fix or do things different based on what you say.

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mostly stable is good, but i also use with my teamspeak and i don't think the plugin would work too well or at all with the beta.

and it was nothing too bad for me atleast, because i have my PC on all the time but it just wouldn't save the playlist changes sometimes
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the beta shouldn't have any effect on how other software / plug-ins work as long as they interact with Winamp via the specific APIs to do things i.e. if they hard-code specific paths to check for things then they can break at any time. the changes to the playlists support mainly involves not re-saving playlists which have not been determined to have changed which prevents the risk of them getting mangled on forced / quick Windows shutdowns.

as for the original point of this thread, it's due to how Winamp works by looking at things by file extension instead of doing as WMP, VLC, etc do and they look at the file to then determine what needs to play it. maybe one day we'll add something like it to Winamp but that's a fundamental change in how the player and it's format support works.
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