Old 21st October 2010, 00:52   #1
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Streaming OK and listed but... cannot be listened to

I have been streaming for several years, now, from a server with Windows XP and even now it goes fine, from behind a Zone Alarm firewall and a modem/router.
Recently, for some time already, I've been trying to broadcast from a new computer having 64-bit Windows 7 OS and: I get listed in the Shoutcast directory, everything seems well but... when somenone tries to listen to, it always returns the message "timed out"!
But how come it doesn't work from there , "Allowing" the same in Zone Alarm firewall, for sc_serv.exe, for shoutcast-dnas, for Winamp, too, and turning off the Windows firewall, both for Home...network and Public network?!
Is there anything else I don't know that I should "Allow", on any other program in Zone Alarm firewall? Any clue about this?
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Old 21st October 2010, 01:47   #2
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two words : port forwarding (I assume from what you said that you are running DNAS "at home")

"If you don't like DNAS, write your own damn system"

So I did
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Old 21st October 2010, 03:13   #3
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nah, if the user is listing in the yp, then it can't be a port forwarding issue.

But just to make sure ... can you post your logs from DNAS and also post a tune in link so we can check this out?
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Old 21st October 2010, 20:31   #4
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It won't go. for now!

There's no problem with my port forwarding, I check it regularly, otherwise ShoutCast server should return the corresponding error message.
But even when that port is right, I sometimes get such error message, e.g. of one connection attempt:

<10/21/10@13:36:15> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@13:36:26> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@13:36:26> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (URL: http://89.152.20.10:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache.)
<10/21/10@13:36:28> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<10/21/10@13:36:31> [main] shutting down via UI.
<10/21/10@13:36:31> [main] connecting to yp.shoutcast.com to remove myself before I die...

but immediately afterwards:

<10/21/10@13:40:22> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@13:40:44> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@13:40:45> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@13:40:45> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@13:40:45> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@13:40:46> [dest: 64.12.243.206] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:40:46> [dest: 64.12.243.206] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:40:57> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@13:40:57> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Generic error)
<10/21/10@13:41:17> [main] shutting down via UI.
<10/21/10@13:41:17> [main] connecting to yp.shoutcast.com to remove myself before I die...

and again afterwards, quite surprisingly - take note of the last 3 lines:

<10/21/10@13:41:35> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@13:41:37> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@13:41:38> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@13:41:38> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@13:41:38> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@13:41:39> [dest: 205.188.202.172] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:41:39> [dest: 205.188.202.172] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:41:47> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
<10/21/10@13:51:46> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@14:01:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@14:01:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Generic error)

Then I did the following, in the next hours: tried to detect spyware, viruses, but nothing, defragmented the disks and did CheckDisk for these, restarted and... it is the same way, check please to find that you cannot listen to it right now, in spite of:

<10/21/10@19:32:10> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@19:32:45> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@19:32:46> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@19:32:46> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@19:32:46> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@19:32:47> [dest: 64.12.243.203] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@19:32:48> [dest: 64.12.243.203] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@19:32:48> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
<10/21/10@19:42:48> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@19:52:49> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@20:02:49> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!

Is that weird, the all-new Windows 7 Professional, has it any kind of related bug you may tell the MicroSoft guys there in the U.S.A. about?...
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Old 21st October 2010, 20:53   #5
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There's nothing wrong with my port forwarding, I check it regularly and it's all right. But it is funny that sometimes, after checking it, it happens, like recently that:

<10/21/10@13:36:15> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@13:36:15> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@13:36:17> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@13:36:26> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@13:36:26> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (URL: http://89.152.20.10:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache.)
<10/21/10@13:36:28> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<10/21/10@13:36:31> [main] shutting down via UI.
<10/21/10@13:36:31> [main] connecting to yp.shoutcast.com to remove myself before I die...

and immediately afterwards:

<10/21/10@13:40:22> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@13:40:22> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@13:40:44> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@13:40:45> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@13:40:45> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@13:40:45> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@13:40:46> [dest: 64.12.243.206] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:40:46> [dest: 64.12.243.206] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:40:57> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@13:40:57> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Generic error)
<10/21/10@13:41:17> [main] shutting down via UI.
<10/21/10@13:41:17> [main] connecting to yp.shoutcast.com to remove myself before I die...

and, without changing anything else, just restarting the server - but take a note on the last 3 lines!!! :

<10/21/10@13:41:35> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@13:41:35> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@13:41:37> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@13:41:38> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@13:41:38> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@13:41:38> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@13:41:39> [dest: 205.188.202.172] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:41:39> [dest: 205.188.202.172] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@13:41:47> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
<10/21/10@13:51:46> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@14:01:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@14:01:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Generic error)
<10/21/10@14:07:05> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@14:07:05> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (URL: http://89.152.20.10:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache.)
<10/21/10@14:07:14> [source] source dropped connection. disconnecting.
<10/21/10@14:07:18> [main] shutting down via UI.
<10/21/10@14:07:18> [main] connecting to yp.shoutcast.com to remove myself before I die...

So, what I did in the latest hours was to try to find any spyware or viruses: but none at all; defragmented the disks and did CheckDisk of them; restarted and now, it goes as below, but please try and see right now that you cannot listen to this station through
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-....pls?id=319859

<10/21/10@19:32:10> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@19:32:10> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@19:32:45> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@19:32:46> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@19:32:46> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@19:32:46> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@19:32:47> [dest: 64.12.243.203] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@19:32:48> [dest: 64.12.243.203] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@19:32:48> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
<10/21/10@19:42:48> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@19:52:49> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@20:02:49> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@20:12:50> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@20:22:51> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/21/10@20:32:52> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!

Maybe there is an unexpected bug of Windows 7 (mine is the Professional version) you may tell those MicroSoft guys there in the U.S.A. about...
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Old 21st October 2010, 20:58   #6
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If I remember correctly I remember experiencing something similar to this on my station when the YP was upgraded to support the new YP2 protocols. Apparently the new YP did not like my old firewall even though it was just fine with it on the old YP before the update/upgrade.

Try temporarily turning off/disabling all hardware and software firewalls and see if that helps. If it does, turn them on one at a time and see which one (if you have more than one) is the culprit (if my theory is correct.)

Good luck.
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Old 22nd October 2010, 01:53   #7
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This problem may just be on the way back from ShoutCast server

Indeed, my broadcast reaches the YP servers but it stops or is blocked there for some reason.
As I exchanged E.mails with SHOUTcast Feedback Faisal Sultan, he suggested me to do a <tracert> command and I did it and sent him the corresponding Screen Print: my data arrive in ~.14 s to edge3-dtc-ae0.net.aol.com but the tracert next step is Request timed out . So the data are not re-routed by Shoutcast server to the listener. Why?
I remember you all that, when broadcasting from a Windows XP based server here, my station, through the same modem/router and the same ISP, can then be listened to!
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Old 22nd October 2010, 02:11   #8
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What is your public IP address as reported from the following website:
http://www.whatismyip.com/
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Old 22nd October 2010, 02:20   #9
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IP address

http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-....pls?id=319859
or 95.95.40.243
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Have you tried temporarily disabling the firewalls to see if that is the cause yet?
Try this:
http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7...ws-7-firewall/

I've tried connecting to your DNAS server but the connection keeps timing out. If it worked before with Windows XP then it must be something to do with your computer or any firewall(s) AntiVirus packages installed on your machine.
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Old 22nd October 2010, 10:10   #11
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Quote:
<10/21/10@13:36:26> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/21/10@13:36:26> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (URL: http://89.152.20.10:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache.)
I couldn't connect to the stream IP above. If it is in operation, you have a firewall or port forwarding problem.

Cannot see your station/computer Yep. If your router is assigning the same Class C address to your broadcast computer as it did when you were running XP, you know the problem is windows firewall or some other anti-software. You just need to get in there and unlock port 8000 and 8001. Win 7 has had some firewall issues, but it shouldn't give you a headache about shoutcast.

I think the best way to do that is to assign a class C IP by MAC identity. It may be how you made sure your router assigned the same IP before, and you just forgot?

If your router is set like when you were running XP, I would make sure it is assigning the same class C address that it did when you were using XP. If it isn't, of course your router will not do port forwarding correctly. You might want to make your adjustments, including manually assigning the class C address for your ethernet and then reboot everything.... including the router.

Wired computers usually assign the same address to any device you plugged into the same ethernet plug, but I wouldn't count on it. Assigning a Class C address according to MAC identification and then port forwarding to that address might be the bullet.

I am running 802.11n instead of wires. It is both faster than the wires and I don't have wires.

If I didn't use MAC identification for assigning IP addresses, port forwarding wouldn't work. The router could assign a completely different Class C IP.

I can say for certain that this problem is a firewall or port forwarding problem.
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Old 22nd October 2010, 11:29   #12
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Broadcasting now

I am broadcasting now continuously from Windows 7 OS based server since (GMT + 1)

<10/21/10@23:56:28> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] opening source socket
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] source thread starting
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] opening client socket
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/21/10@23:56:28> [main] client main thread starting
<10/21/10@23:56:32> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/21/10@23:56:33> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/21/10@23:56:33> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/21/10@23:56:33> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/21/10@23:56:34> [dest: 64.12.243.204] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@23:56:34> [dest: 64.12.243.204] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/21/10@23:56:35> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully

always with the message below

<10/22/10@00:06:35> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!

not being able to connect, as you people, from another computer - as it all the time receives the message [timed out]!!!
So I am still waiting for the right answer! How can it be a port forwarding or a firewall problem of mine if, when I do the <tracert> command my data reach

...
20 138 ms 139 ms 139 ms edge5-mtc-ae0.net.aol.com [64.12.248.18]
21 * * * Request timed out.

again and again till

30 * * * Request timed out.

By the way, comparing what's before with [dest: 64.12.243.204] it is being reached not the same IP the SHOUTcast server indicated when I connnected!!! Is it this situation the same when running from other OSs based servers?
And so...???
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Old 22nd October 2010, 15:08   #13
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traceroute not reaching 64.12.243.204 is meaningless - some hosts just don't respond to icmp packets, hence "Request timed out", fact is, 64.12.243.204 is reaching you OK

it's not a SIMPLE firewall or portforward problem ... YP can see you ... it's just others can not ... it' almost like a firewall rule is in place to allow only connection from certain IP's

"If you don't like DNAS, write your own damn system"

So I did
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Old 22nd October 2010, 17:29   #14
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Is it possible (s)he's behind some kind of weird proxy? I'm seeing 2 different IP addresses. The DNAS from his posted logs is saying 89.152.20.10 but the listing on the YP is saying 95.95.40.243 or is that just an old dynamically assigned IP address? Would a "Yport=666" in the config fix that if that were true?

code:
[playlist]
numberofentries=1
File1=http://95.95.40.243:8000
Title1=(#1 - 0/10) JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock
Length1=-1
Version=2




Just a thought.
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Old 22nd October 2010, 17:33   #15
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Another thing to check is your router settings. It's possible you set up port triggering instead of port forwarding.

Port triggering would allow the YP directory tester to connect within a second of the request going out, but would block further inbound connection attempts.

You may also have an ISP that likes to give you a new IP every 5 minutes. That would suck, but it's possible...
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Another thing to check is your router settings. It's possible you set up port triggering instead of port forwarding.
I was also kinda thinking the same thing but with the firewall instead. What if it's configured to only allow incoming connections from hosts with recent(~ish) direct outbound activity?
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Old 22nd October 2010, 20:32   #17
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I can hit ya now...

Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 96 kbps with 0 of 10 listeners (0 unique)
Listener Peak: 1
Average Listen Time: 0m 01s
Stream Title: JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock
Content Type: audio/mpeg
Stream Genre: Decades
Stream URL: http://www.shoutcast.com
Stream AIM: N/A
Stream IRC: #shoutcast
Current Song: Carlos Paredes - Canto de embalar 1989 Asas sobre o mundo
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Old 22nd October 2010, 20:57   #18
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Another thing to check is your router settings. It's possible you set up port triggering instead of port forwarding.

Port triggering would allow the YP directory tester to connect within a second of the request going out, but would block further inbound connection attempts.

You may also have an ISP that likes to give you a new IP every 5 minutes. That would suck, but it's possible...

I always did port forwardfing, not triggering; and, since yesterday (GMT + 1 time), I've broadcasted for several hours receiving indications such as:
<10/22/10@17:18:58> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
when I've disconnected.

What did I do since then? Tried some changes in Windows firewall, anyway leaving it always apparently unoperational for Home... and Public networks: it resulted in nothing.
Tried to disable "IPv6 networking" in Zone Alarm firewall, added Winamp dsp plugin, allowing it there, to Zone Alarm, each one at at time - tried to reconnect but, after waiting 10 min more each time, tried to listen to from elsewhere but... always "Timed out".
I also remembered, from Thinktink suggestion, that I had, some time in the way, changed the conncetion YPport to 80, after years using the 666 one. So, I rechanged it back to 666 and what did I get? The reason why - here, from this Windows 7 based server - I left it:

<10/22/10@19:47:52> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] opening source socket
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] source thread starting
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] opening client socket
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/22/10@19:47:52> [main] client main thread starting
<10/22/10@19:47:54> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/22/10@19:47:55> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/22/10@19:47:55> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:47:55> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/22/10@19:48:16> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:48:39> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:49:01> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:49:23> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:49:45> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:50:07> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:50:29> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:50:52> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:51:14> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:51:36> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@19:51:58> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com

I've restarted once more, logged in as administrator, and still the above.
In despair since then, I am now at risk having disabled also Zone Alarm firewall: but still having the YPport 666:

<10/22/10@20:19:24> [yp_add] error connecting to yp.shoutcast.com

So, I've rechanged the port again to 80 and - with no firewall now (not for long) and as administrator in Windows7:

<10/22/10@20:19:51> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] opening source socket
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] source thread starting
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] opening client socket
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/22/10@20:19:51> [main] client main thread starting
<10/22/10@20:19:53> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/22/10@20:19:54> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/22/10@20:19:54> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@20:19:54> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/22/10@20:19:57> [dest: 205.188.202.174] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/22/10@20:19:57> [dest: 205.188.202.174] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/22/10@20:19:58> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
<10/22/10@20:29:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<10/22/10@20:29:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (100)

Funny, ain't it???!!!...
But immediately afterwards, from then till now:

<10/22/10@20:32:07> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.8 (Feb 28 2007) starting up...
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files (x86)\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] initializing (usermax:10 portbase:8000)...
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] opening source socket
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] source thread starting
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] opening client socket
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<10/22/10@20:32:07> [main] client main thread starting
<10/22/10@20:32:09> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<10/22/10@20:32:09> [source] icy-name:JAdSC\Portugal jadsc@netcabo.pt Brasil\eclecticInternationalCelticFolkBluesSoulPopRock ; icy-genreecades
<10/22/10@20:32:09> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:96 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<10/22/10@20:32:09> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<10/22/10@20:32:10> [dest: 205.188.94.204] starting stream (UID: 0)[L: 1]{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
<10/22/10@20:32:10> [dest: 205.188.94.204] connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)[L: 0]{Bytes: 8192}(P: 0)
<10/22/10@20:32:11> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
<10/22/10@20:42:10> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/22/10@20:48:31> [dest: 95.95.40.243] starting stream (UID: 1)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/5.58, Ultravox/2.1}(P: 0)
<10/22/10@20:52:11> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<10/22/10@20:53:51> [dest: 95.95.40.243] starting stream (UID: 2)[L: 2]{A: WinampMPEG/5.58, Ultravox/2.1}(P: 1)

So, what come may be different and should be soon changed in my Zone Firewall, installed in Windows 7, that makes the difference from the way it's installed in Windows XP, both Professional, allowing listeners?! I really don't know, but now I'll have to disconnect, not to be in such risk of no firewall at all!!!...
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Old 22nd October 2010, 22:13   #19
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[2cents]

If you're NATted behind a router then the only real concern for a firewall would be either for limiting incoming connections on a dynamic basis (if the firewall supports it), keeping malicious software that somehow already managed to get on your computer from making outbound connections, or from other computers on the same router as the SHOUTcast box. I still use a firewall on my SHOUTcast server BUT it's on linux and using IPTables but for different reasons.

You REALLY shouldn't have two firewalls running at the same time. Use either the default Windows 7 firewall or ZoneAlarm, but NOT both. I haven't seen/heard anything specific about ZoneAlarm + Windows7 Firewall but 1) you don't NEED both at the same time, 2) the potential for conflicts is still pretty large, especially if a new version of either comes up to wreak havoc with the other, and 3) running more than one firewall needlessly eats up resources.

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Old 23rd October 2010, 00:50   #20
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Just Zone Alarm firewall. What should be changed in its settings?

You misunderstood me, Thinktink: as I told above, I disabled completely the Windows 7 firewall, keeping just Zone Alarm, and tried already in vain to change settings on this one. Only after disabling completely also this one, it went, so something from its installation on over Windows 7 must be preventing here listeners to connect to this server.
That is what I do not yet know, but I am connecting and disconnecting, changing new items - relative to Windows XP -one at a time in the Zone Alarm firewall.
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Old 23rd October 2010, 05:21   #21
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Since it's now been determined that your trouble is specific to the ZoneAlarm firewall it would probably be best to ask for ZoneAlarm support:
http://www.zonealarm.es/security/es/...ce-support.htm

I found their forums here:
http://forums.zonealarm.com/


Somebody else on the forums might be familiar enough with your version ZoneAlarm firewall but since nobody else is answering at the moment I would suggest visiting ZoneAlarm's support sites.


Good luck.
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Old 23rd October 2010, 14:15   #22
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I think I would drop all firewalls and start from scratch being meticulous. It's too stupid not to work. Why are you running Zonealarm? I think most of the antivirus crap around is bullshit anyway. If you don't do anything stupid, you shouldn't have a virus problem. I use dd-wrt on my routers, but most routers have pretty effective firewalls in place anyway by default. Unless you were crazy enough to hook your computer to the internet w/o a router, you shouldn't need an additional firewall.
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Old 31st October 2010, 22:04   #23
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Thank you all for your help! I came back here to tell you I just managed to solve this issue by uninstalling Zone Alarm firewall. It seems after all that Windows 7 firewall works fine and, after allowing ShoutCast and Winamp through it, puts no restriction at all to ShoutCasting. Let's get along, then!
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Old 31st October 2010, 22:06   #24
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