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NitrofishRadio · 11th June 2012, 13:04

What are these connections to my Shoutcast server from websys.aol.com for?

scdp-d01.websys.aol.com
scdp-d02.websys.aol.com

scdp-m01.websys.aol.com
scdp-m02.websys.aol.com
scdp-m03.websys.aol.com

Thanks...

DrO · 11th June 2012, 13:25

they're the YP servers.

most likely you're seeing connections from them when getting the in-stream metadata for people using the site player (not an ideal setup but this is an issue left over from how things were setup to allow the site player to work with the v1 DNAS without the need for local flash policy servers, etc).

-daz

NitrofishRadio · 11th June 2012, 19:58

Ok, so then they are collecting data for Time Warner Music? I could understand Winamp servers, but Time Warner and AOL?

DrO · 11th June 2012, 20:11

when some one uses the flash player provided on shoutcast.com to play a stream, due to how the flash player works it is not able to get the in-stream metadata. to get around that a periodic connection is made to connect to the stream, grab up to a few seconds of stream data and then process that to get the in-stream title update. then that is returned to the flash player and it then updates the song title shown.

there is _no_ storing of that data (even though it should be to cut down on repeat querying of the stream with large client numbers). it is just a way to get the stream titles as mentioned and should match up with a 'SHOUTcast Metadata Puller' user agent on the connections being made.

if that is not what you're seeing then you're going to have to give me some more details to be able to answer your concerns.

-daz

NitrofishRadio · 11th June 2012, 20:52

Thanks for the info... That is what I am seeing and I am just curious what kind of reporting is being done for the RIAA, etc. Just seems strange to me to see AOL servers involved instead of local Winamp servers. Thanks for a great product!

DrO · 11th June 2012, 21:12

the onus on reporting of things for licensing, etc is placed on the stream provider. the only thing which is provided as a form of reporting is http://yp.shoutcast.com/ttsl.html and that only applies to generally the top proportion of listed stations but i don't think it provides all of what is needed for license reporting anyway (is just one of those pages which has been around for years).

Winamp / SHOUTcast / Nullsoft / Aol are the same thing and have been so since 1999 so i'm not quite following the "Just seems strange to me to see AOL servers involved instead of local Winamp servers." comment.

-daz

NitrofishRadio · 12th June 2012, 03:30

I see... That is something I was unaware of... You learn something new every day. Please excuse my ignorance.

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11th June 2012, 13:25	#2
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	they're the YP servers. most likely you're seeing connections from them when getting the in-stream metadata for people using the site player (not an ideal setup but this is an issue left over from how things were setup to allow the site player to work with the v1 DNAS without the need for local flash policy servers, etc). -daz

11th June 2012, 19:58	#3
NitrofishRadio Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 17	Ok, so then they are collecting data for Time Warner Music? I could understand Winamp servers, but Time Warner and AOL?

11th June 2012, 20:11	#4
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	when some one uses the flash player provided on shoutcast.com to play a stream, due to how the flash player works it is not able to get the in-stream metadata. to get around that a periodic connection is made to connect to the stream, grab up to a few seconds of stream data and then process that to get the in-stream title update. then that is returned to the flash player and it then updates the song title shown. there is _no_ storing of that data (even though it should be to cut down on repeat querying of the stream with large client numbers). it is just a way to get the stream titles as mentioned and should match up with a 'SHOUTcast Metadata Puller' user agent on the connections being made. if that is not what you're seeing then you're going to have to give me some more details to be able to answer your concerns. -daz

11th June 2012, 20:52	#5
NitrofishRadio Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 17	Thanks for the info... That is what I am seeing and I am just curious what kind of reporting is being done for the RIAA, etc. Just seems strange to me to see AOL servers involved instead of local Winamp servers. Thanks for a great product!

11th June 2012, 21:12	#6
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	the onus on reporting of things for licensing, etc is placed on the stream provider. the only thing which is provided as a form of reporting is http://yp.shoutcast.com/ttsl.html and that only applies to generally the top proportion of listed stations but i don't think it provides all of what is needed for license reporting anyway (is just one of those pages which has been around for years). Winamp / SHOUTcast / Nullsoft / Aol are the same thing and have been so since 1999 so i'm not quite following the "Just seems strange to me to see AOL servers involved instead of local Winamp servers." comment. -daz

12th June 2012, 03:30	#7
NitrofishRadio Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 17	I see... That is something I was unaware of... You learn something new every day. Please excuse my ignorance.