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 11th October 2004, 07:12 #41 madcom Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2 Ok, this is what i think about the bug..: I use windows 98 too, i think that hardware and current proccesses/? have nothing do with the bug, in my computer somtimes winamp crashes: "gen_ff.dll" and sometimes the OS kernel("kernel32.dll"). I readed in some german forums that someone had to rename: "tooltips-elements.xml" to anything else to bypass the xml bug. I also had to disable some ModernSkins options to make it run, like: "WindowShade scale follows Normal Window Scale" disable "enable tooltips" < this one is probably the bug. Remember that Windows 98 has not all XP and 2000 window options like "opacity", etc.. My point?: - rename tooltips-elements.xml to tooltips-elements1.xml - disable "enable tooltips" - configure your winamp correctly I still can't make The Default Winamp Modern Skin. run, it crashes kernel32.dll: ------------------------ 015f:bff9d709. Registros: EAX=c002f8d0 CS=015f EIP=bff9d709 EFLGS=00010216 EBX=00000000 SS=0167 ESP=0063fd88 EBP=00640024 ECX=00000000 DS=0167 ESI=00860f80 FS=3787 EDX=7803a6e8 ES=0167 EDI=004542a0 GS=0000 Bytes en CS:EIP: ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ,02x ------------------------- I hope i could be of help. Regards.
 11th October 2004, 22:19 #42 lazerfisk Member   Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Karlstad, Sweden Posts: 57 Go through your winamp.ini... Try renaming it to winamp2.ini and start it, try to load a modern skin now. This worked on my computer, however my WinAmp has been upgraded since version 2.x so it was huge when i had a look at it. Didn't feel like putting time into tracking it down, but i'm pretty sure it's one of the options in there... Cheers, Christopher
 12th October 2004, 02:41 #43 madcom Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2 renaming winamp.ini to winamp2.ini did not work for me.. the funny thing is.. i can run any modern skin except for the default modern skin.
 27th December 2004, 14:13 #44 scubed Junior Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2 Resource leak I am using Windows 98 SE (2222) and have just installed WinAmp 5.08. I also use LiteStep. I selected the new skin and had the problem already described in this thread. I changed the skin and now WinAmp starts just fine. However, once a song starts playing, it eats all of my system resources rapidly. Quickly rendering the entire machine unusable and forcing me to reboot. System resources starts at 90%. After running WinAmp, it declines to 66% and steadily drops further until hitting 0%. So, WinAmp appears to have a really bad resource leak. I hope that this can be looked into and fixed. Thank you.
 27th December 2004, 15:35 #45 scubed Junior Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2 Clarification This computer used to run WinAmp 2 just fine. When I returned, running WinAmp 2 had a resource leak, so I updated it, but the problem persisted, exhausting resources in only a few minutes. Given that it used to work, the problem is probably not with WinAmp itself directly. Are there any programs that it does not get along with or anything? What libraries does it rely on that might be broken that would cause this to happen?
 28th December 2004, 14:35 #46 Thantelius Junior Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1 Under this path C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins i've deleted the files gen_ml.dll and gen_ml.ini and the problem has been solved.
 29th December 2004, 00:47 #47 lazerfisk Member   Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Karlstad, Sweden Posts: 57 It sounds very odd that the medialibrary should have anything to do with the crashes. I suspect it relates to another plugin on your system. I did a fresh install of WA5 and went from there, and it worked. The media library is the same in the old installation as in the new one. However, my old one was full of various plugins. My best bet is that it's a general purpose plugin that's causing this.
 3rd March 2005, 14:07 #48 leexgx Junior Member   Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1 i been haveing the same problems with my system with WA5 crashing on start (send an report error) some times it start some time it would crash if it did work (only in clssic mode it would start), if i started millk drop then it whould fall over after 1 min or so i had to use the reset button on me shuttle i found out it was my Nvidia GF4 3D prophet II Ultra card that was doing it replaced it with an Nvidia fx5200 and problem has gone away windows XP amd 2800+ nForce 2 mobo fx5200 (<< is now) and with the crative sound card problems it seems to only happen on VIA chip set in my case as from going from VIA to nForce chip set my sound card has been working with 0 problems (nForce 2 rules and so does nForce 4)
 3rd March 2005, 14:58 #49 JonnyMac Moderator     Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,384 To anyone using the DEE3 plug-in. Conflicts with the plug-in and modern skins have been reported here and here. This issue can occur even though DEE3 is not set as the current/active output plug-in. Please do not PM me for tech support. Any request for tech support through PM will be ignored. Read the Stickies ---> | | | | <--- Knowledge is power
 4th March 2005, 09:30 #50 lazerfisk Member   Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Karlstad, Sweden Posts: 57 I can confirm that dsp_dee.dll was found in the plugin folder of my previous winamp installation. However, i believe that it was removed to another folder in order to attempt to clean up the install and make the modern skins work No preferences appear to be present in winamp.ini for this plugin. Cheers, Christopher
 4th April 2005, 00:20 #51 MiG29 Junior Member   Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Guess i have the same problem.Im using 5.08 ,with Win Me, the system is AMD K6III500, 128 RAM,Vortex 2 sound card and when i switch from classic skin to modern skin(the default) or any other skin it just crashes.I get a blue screen with "Error: 0D : 0000: 0000306A".However ive noticed that i get this thing only after i install P2P programs(i got Kazaa then Bearshare).After i do a system restore(uninstalling the P2P things doesnt help),everything is back to normal.Do these programs come with anything which interfere with cause it worked just fine untill i got these things installed. I havent got any plugins besides the ones which come with
4th April 2005, 01:01   #52
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 Originally posted by MiG29 Do these programs come with anything which interfere with cause it worked just fine untill i got these things installed.
Yes – Spyware, adware and other junk like that...
File Sharing Programs: Including list of known spyware

 4th April 2005, 09:58 #53 MiG29 Junior Member   Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2 I know about the spyware,adware and other junk.But i had P2P before and nothing ever happend.Now with 5.08 things just go wrong.
 4th April 2005, 14:39 #54 DJ Egg TechoratorWinamp & SHOUTcast Team   Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,817 Because the malware bundled with those evil p2p apps has gotten worse (ie. more destructive). You get all you deserve by installing them. The problems won't occur if you only use the safe/recommended p2p apps which come with no bundled spyware/parasites/hijackers :/ If you require further help, start your own thread in the Tech Support forum, and include a HijackThis log. Playlist -|- Twitter
7th April 2005, 16:06   #55
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 Originally posted by DJ Egg Because the malware bundled with those evil p2p apps has gotten worse (ie. more destructive). You get all you deserve by installing them. The problems won't occur if you only use the safe/recommended p2p apps which come with no bundled spyware/parasites/hijackers :/ If you require further help, start your own thread in the Tech Support forum, and include a HijackThis log.
Um, a clean install of WinAmp into a new folder does help for me...

 7th April 2005, 18:36 #56 DJ Egg TechoratorWinamp & SHOUTcast Team   Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,817 Good for you Playlist -|- Twitter
 8th May 2005, 12:32 #57 chic Junior Member   Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 Just installed Winamp 5.09 and encountered said problem.. think I'm probably the first for this new version... now fervently wishing I didn't delete my old Winamp installer =( Here goes... AppName: winamp.exe AppVer: 5.0.0.9 ModName: msvcrt.dll ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset: 00033ace System Specs: Windows XP Pro v2002(no SP) P4 2.4GHz NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 Avance Ac'97 Audio ------------------ ------------------------- Chronological recap of events that transpired: 1) Uninstalled my old version 5.04 and installed 5.09, but never successful managed to launch it no matter what i tried 2) Was so desperate that i even resorted to deleting Nullsoft registry key under HKLM after i uninstalled & re-installed for the umpteenth time 3) Even went to manually delete winamp file types under "folder options" just to make sure any reference to winamp is completely wiped out before re-installing, but to no avail 4) Installed Winamp Lite in a moment of desperation, & discovered with glee that it works! 5) In a moment of inspiration, decided to attempt 1 last time to reinstall full version with classic skin selected, n presto! winamp was launched successfully. 6) Switched to modern skin, and everything seems to work fine. Utter ecstasy!!! 7) Exited Winamp (with modern skin still intact) and re-launched Winamp - the dreaded error box pops up again! =( Your prompt assistance would be most appreciated. I can't live without my winamp!!!
 9th May 2005, 22:02 #59 chic Junior Member   Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 heyz DJ Egg, Thanx for the links to the old versions.. u're a messiah Yeah, I did install Sonic Engine, but think that wasn't of consequence, since winamp (attempts to) launch automatically after the registration window n there was no way i could have done a reboot before starting up winamp for the 1st time. However, just to b sure, i rebooted after i got my 1st crash, but there were no miracles =P My take is that it definitely has to do with some conflict with the modern skin, since the classic skin works juz fine.. Anyway hope u dudes can iron this out in the next release.. hopefully sooner than later... Cheerios!
 10th May 2005, 00:01 #60 DJ Egg TechoratorWinamp & SHOUTcast Team   Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,817 We've not actually been able to reproduce it yet, heh. But there's lots of fixes in 5.091, so hopefully the msvcrt.dll error will be covered by one of them....? Playlist -|- Twitter
 11th May 2005, 07:30 #61 chic Junior Member   Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 If it's any help, i installed 5.09 on my brand new company laptop, and though it installed properly (thankfully), whenever i launch it, the main window freezes momentarily for abt 20 secs (no exaggeration there =P) b4 i can start working the player eg. playing or configuring.. Either winamp consumes enormous amts of memory or CPU resources when it starts up, or there's some grave incompatibility with certain systems =P Well all the best in bug eradication!!!
 11th May 2005, 13:04 #62 DJ Egg TechoratorWinamp & SHOUTcast Team   Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,817 Yes, but that behaviour doesn't exist with Winamp 5.08e or earlier, yes? (please confirm). I do believe that the delayed startup in 5.09 has something to do with the new dynamic Online Media check in the Media Library, which is hard-coded in 5.09 to connect to winamp.com and check for new channels/content at Winamp startup. In 5.091 (internal dev/beta build) this behaviour is changed so that the Online Media updater only checks for new channels/content on Winamp exit, and there will be an option in "Prefs > Media Library > Library Options tab > Modify Preferences button" to disable this feature (though, note, if you do disable this feature, then you will always be stuck with the same channels, and they will never be updated). Playlist -|- Twitter
 26th May 2005, 07:43 #63 BluDragon Junior Member   Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1 I am having a similar problem to the above. I can only use the "Winamp Modern" Skin. If I try to use any other modern skin it displays the default skin. I can't remember what version I started to have the problem, I think it was about 5.06 or maybe earlier. I have had the same problem with every version since, including 5.091. I have tried all the fixes listed above including doing a clean install, and playing around with the modern skin options, all with no effect. My sys specs are: WinXP Pro sp1 with all updates (my system wont accept sp2) AthlonXP 3000+ 512Mb ram MSI KT6 Delta mainboard [rant]And please don't get on my back about sp2 because I have tried 5 different methods of installing it, and every time I had to format it and try again. Including my legit XP Pro, I also tried borrowing XP Home, an XP Pro with Sp2 pre-installed ... *starts rapidly walking in small circles muttering something about a sledge hammer*[/rant]
26th May 2005, 10:08   #64
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 Originally posted by DJ Egg In 5.091 (internal dev/beta build) this behaviour is changed so that the Online Media updater only checks for new channels/content on Winamp exit, and there will be an option in "Prefs > Media Library > Library Options tab > Modify Preferences button" to disable this feature (though, note, if you do disable this feature, then you will always be stuck with the same channels, and they will never be updated).
Why not simply add a "check for new content now" button somewhere?

 26th May 2005, 10:10 #65 lazerfisk Member   Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Karlstad, Sweden Posts: 57 ServicePack 2 has got quite a few things in common with your mother in law. For example, they both cause problem, both show their existance when you need it the least. And so on What does the errormessagebox say? What crashes and where?
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 Originally posted by chic If it's any help, i installed 5.09 on my brand new company laptop, and though it installed properly (thankfully), whenever i launch it, the main window freezes momentarily for abt 20 secs (no exaggeration there =P) b4 i can start working the player eg. playing or configuring.. Either winamp consumes enormous amts of memory or CPU resources when it starts up, or there's some grave incompatibility with certain systems =P Well all the best in bug eradication!!!
Chic, one of many problems may cause this. For example, the windows network is pretty unreliable. If windows goes to shout HELLO down your network cable, your computer is pretty much gonna lock until it gets a reply or windows finally realizes that there is no computer in the other end. This is *ONLY* for the Windows Network and nothing else. So, if you were connected to your corporate domain and had something online, or you just had a mapped drive you tried to play a song from, this could be the cause of it.

Using Process Explorer (www.sysinternals.net) you can see what thread is behind it all. Could be handy to know

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