SUMMARY: new iPod classic, nano 3G, iPod touch, iPhone and ml_ipod

[abu]

Hm, seems it only handles plain old ftp, not sftp? The phone only has sftp (for good reasons).

[frauhottelmann]

Yeah, I found out. But this is something http://www.jscape.com/reddrive/
Looks like it's free and does the stuff!

[abu]

3.02p02 should do cover art, with sftpdrive. Alpha test version!

[eddan]

Regarding Red Drive:

I couldn't get it to mount as a drive letter, and I couldn't get it to start at the right remote directory. Now, those are stuff ml_ipod could work around, but it will have to access this weird drive "Red Drive" in My Computer and then another folder inside there which is the address to the server (in my case, 192.168.0.145). In other words, ml_ipod would somehow have to access:

My Computer\Red Drive\192.168.0.145:/Media/iTunes_Control

With the ip changing from setup to setup, this might prove difficult. But, Red Drive is free and that's a good thing, but it's still not a permanent, long-term solution imo.

My 45 day trail period with SftpDrive will hopefully not be over when abu finds a proper solution

Edit: Syncing album art is working like a charm here, abu. Thanks!

[abu]

Originally posted by eddan
I couldn't get it to mount as a drive letter, and I couldn't get it to start at the right remote directory. Now, those are stuff ml_ipod could work around, but it will have to access this weird drive "Red Drive" in My Computer and then another folder inside there which is the address to the server (in my case, 192.168.0.145). In other words, ml_ipod would somehow have to access:

My Computer\Red Drive\192.168.0.145:/Media/iTunes_Control

Would be very difficult to change. Maybe you could assign a drive letter with the "subst" command?

[eddan]

Originally posted by abu
Would be very difficult to change. Maybe you could assign a drive letter with the "subst" command?

Would probably work, but I won't bother until my SftpDrive 45 day trial period is nearing it's end

[abu]

I had very very low transfer rates with SftpDrive, around 200 KB/sec. On my 5G iPod, it was above 4000 KB/sec, 20 times more. What transfer rates do you get?

[eddan]

Got 450 KB/sec when I synced a couple of songs right now. Not horrible imo, considering we're on wifi and not usb...

[abu]

Ok, I had my notebook on wifi, too, so that may cut the rate to half? Communication to the router, and then back to the iPhone...

[eddan]

I've got both on wifi too, it's the faster 802.11g wifi standard, though. Maybe that's why.

I actually just got an average of about 600 KB/s now, forgot I had quite a few torrents open when I synced earlier. Peaked at around 632 KB/s. A typical speed for 802.11g is 2300 KB/s according to wikipedia, so something is definitely slowing things down. Could be every link in the chain, maybe not something to focus on right now.

An USB sync would be best in general, but having the ability to also sync through wifi is always a nice option.

Btw, we made it to Engadget.com if you didn't notice:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/h...without-itunes

[jrsp]

Have you considered using Samba to mount the device?

http://signalblue.com/iphone/

No idea on performance, etc. and I've not tried it myself (yet), but...

[abu]

Very interesting. Didn't know that there is samba available for the iPhone.

One problem all solutions have in common: You need to disable auto-lock manually.

I would like to have a way to disable autolock while syncing, without user interaction. Maybe we just need to stop a certain app on the phone (kill -STOP...), but I don't know. I asked that on the iPhone dev forum, no answer. So if anybody could help out here? maybe if you are active in the freenode channels, ask there...

I would love to use iphonefs^, but that doesn't seem to work yet. Alpha software.

[frauhottelmann]

The subst command doesn't work with Red Drive, I tried!

[benderecs]

I tried to sync my iPod classic 80 gb with ml_ipod 3.02, created a few playlist and everything went right until I removed it, iPod told me that there ware no songs or videos, that happened to me before trying to use gtkpod so I was about to restore when I decided to try to find help, in the wiki said that if I used 3.02 and had that problem I should press shift+spacebar until the ipod model selector appears so I can select the right ipod model (altought the firt time I was asked I DID select the right model Ipod classic 6G!!!) but nothing happens... it just says it's parsing ipod database and then I can see all the content in winamp but the problem doesn't solve, I tried installing patch 3.02p02 but still nothing.... Now I can't even create new playlists.... what can I do before restoring once at all and resigne to use iTunes.... I've always used the ml_ipod plugin with 3 ipods before this one and I want to keep using it... so what can solve my problem?

[abu]

Maybe an archive helps, create it with
"iPod icon->Help->Create archive for bug report"
and upload it to http://stashbox.org for me... Thanks

[jrsp]

Originally posted by abu
Very interesting. Didn't know that there is samba available for the iPhone.

One problem all solutions have in common: You need to disable auto-lock manually.

I would like to have a way to disable autolock while syncing, without user interaction. Maybe we just need to stop a certain app on the phone (kill -STOP...), but I don't know. I asked that on the iPhone dev forum, no answer. So if anybody could help out here? maybe if you are active in the freenode channels, ask there...

Using the terminal client I can use ps -A and find the lockd process. I can also use kill -9 <pid> to kill it. Isn't that what you were looking for?

You could, in fact, create a tiny daemon that just looks for the presence of a key file somewhere in the filesystem. When found, determine the pid of lockd and kill it, then remove the key file that triggered the action. You could even have another, different, key file that could be used to restart lockd when syncing was completed.

[abu]

I have no idea whether lockd is actually for auto-lock. Do you know that for sure, or is it just a guess?

And is it possible to create an iPhone app on a PC? I don't know. Do you have any information on that?

[abu]

Originally posted by benderecs
I tried to sync my iPod classic 80 gb with ml_ipod 3.02, created a few playlist and everything went right until I removed it, iPod told me that there ware no songs or videos, that happened to me before trying to use gtkpod so I was about to restore when I decided to try to find help, in the wiki said that if I used 3.02 and had that problem I should press shift+spacebar until the ipod model selector appears so I can select the right ipod model (altought the firt time I was asked I DID select the right model Ipod classic 6G!!!) but nothing happens... it just says it's parsing ipod database and then I can see all the content in winamp but the problem doesn't solve, I tried installing patch 3.02p02 but still nothing.... Now I can't even create new playlists.... what can I do before restoring once at all and resigne to use iTunes.... I've always used the ml_ipod plugin with 3 ipods before this one and I want to keep using it... so what can solve my problem?

Thanks for the archive. It says:
trying to get FWID...
can't open device XML, no fwid
GetFWID() failed

which means that the "CreateFile(fn, GENERIC_WRITE|GENERIC_READ, FILE_SHARE_READ|FILE_SHARE_WRITE, 0, OPEN_EXISTING, 0, 0);" call failed at startup. Maybe Bruce can have a look at tat, it's his code.
Basically it means that your iPod drive G: refused to give the information that is needed to write the database in the format that your iPod needs.
There are ways to get the needed FWID from the registry. Do you know how to handle regedit?

[fatcerberus1]

Okay, benderecs: Which Windows version? That's important in this case.

[abu]

it was XP, according to the logs...

[benderecs]

abu: Yes I think I can handle regedit, I've edited and deleted some entries to fix other problems in my computer succesfully... so what I'm supposed to modify in the registry? Is this going to finally fix the problem? I just restored my iPod (which took all day downloading the restore file and uploading my music and videos again) so it would be a pain to have to restore it again)... But im trying anything to quit iTunes!!!

fatcerberus1: as abu said I'm using win XP SP2...

[fatcerberus1]

Hmm. Nothing seems unusual about the archive except this that the modelNumStr in SysInfo (MB145) doesn't match the one in ml_iPod.ini (MXX01), but I doubt very much that's what's causing fwid retrieval to fail.

I already had to change the fwid retrieval code (specially the CreateFile call that abu mentioned) once because it failed if any files were open on the iPod... this may be similar. I'll have a look at the code tomorrow.

[fatcerberus1]

Sorry I haven't gotten to look at it yet; I just upgraded from Visual Studio 2005 to 2008 and somehow it messed up my VC6 install. So I can't compile anything right now.

I'll let you know when I get around to it.

[fatcerberus1]

I'm not sure if I fixed the problem or not, since unfortunately I can't reproduce it on any of my systems , but I did change something that could have potentially caused it...

abu, time for another patch. The "maybe-fix" is in CVS.

[benderecs]

Originally posted by fatcerberus1
I'm not sure if I fixed the problem or not, since unfortunately I can't reproduce it on any of my systems , but I did change something that could have potentially caused it...

abu, time for another patch. The "maybe-fix" is in CVS.

Are you talking about my problem.... maybe I could test it to see if it works.... Abu also mentioned that there are ways to fix it form the registry

Originally posted by abu
There are ways to get the needed FWID from the registry. Do you know how to handle regedit?

which are those ways?

[fatcerberus1]

The registry thing wouldn't really be a fix, just a workaround. The bug would still be there.

Anyway, here's a patched ml_iPod DLL. Unzip it and put it into \Program Files\Winamp\Plugins (when Winamp isn't running) and see if that fixes it:

http://www.stashbox.org/54669/ml_ipod.zip

[abu]

If that patch doesn't help, here is the registry magic:
* Disconnect iPod, close Winamp
* Open regedit and locate the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Disk\Enum folder.
There will be some entries there with numbers as names, one for each disk you have. So there will be only a '0' entry if you have only one HD. Now attach iPod and press F5 in regedit to update the view. A new entry should show up, which has a value like "USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Apple&Prod_iPod&Rev_1.62\000A270018E5ED40&0"

In this string the 16 chars after the Revision number and the backslash are the important FWID: 000A270018E5ED40

Now open \iPod_Control\iTunes\ml_ipod.ini on your iPod in a text editor. Locate the line "fwid=" and add the string. The line should be something like
fwid=000A270018E6ED40
now. Save the file, exit text editor, start Winamp. Transfer some songs, eject.

[KhaosWolf666]

My problem has been fixed using the fatcerberus1's patch.
The DB has been restored and my songs appear again.

[benderecs]

fatcerberus1's patch didn't work for me... maybe there's something wrong with my computer that doesn't let it work properly... abu's registry trick did it! No more iTunes! Thanks

[abu]

Maybe we should add that trick to the Wiki somewhere, as a last resort (on an extra page, maybe. Linked to by the FAQ)?

[frauhottelmann]

Shouldn't that be under hidden settings too?
I can add it if you want!

[abu]

Yes that would be cool

[frauhottelmann]

I added it in the FAQ http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/wiki/F..._.220_songs.22 ,in the Hidden Settings http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/wiki/Hidden_settings and made an article Fwid http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/wiki/Fwid

[abu]

Thanks!

[glop]

hey abu

did you see that

iPod copy
http://www.wideanglesoftware.com/
(shareware ) but you can maybe inspire ...)

[abu]

Ok, I just added a new Wiki page on the current status of iPhone and iPod touch support. Read it, and edit it. An excerpt:

Status
Bleeding edge software is 3.02p06.
Working
* Recognizing iPhone after pressing a hotkey
* Reading iPhone database
* Transfer songs or playlists to iPhone
* Creating/rearranging playlists on iPhone
* Album art, cover flow
* Sync ratings and playcounts to iPhone
NOT working yet
* Sync ratings and playcounts from iPhone
* Correct deletion of tracks (a 1 byte file is always left)
* Automatically recognizing iPhone after attaching it
* Reusing album art from iTunes
* Photo upload (probably won't be done)
* Showing the "Sync in progress" screen on the iPhone
* Telling the iPhone to re-read the updated database. After ejecting, you must switch the iPhone off and back on (not only standby, really off!) to show the new tracks in the iPod application
* Free space calculations

@glop: Thanks, but that does not work with ml_ipod

[GrimSage]

I thought that this might help just google
iphonelist
it is part of google code
http://code.google.com/p/iphonelist/

It is able to access the drive of at least the jailbroken ipod touch.

[Yawg81]

As this topic is also about the iPod classic range I'm going to pose a question about my 160GB version I received yesterday.

I've installed: mlIpod v3.02p15 on official Winamp v5.5 version with latest iPod firmware 1.0.3

Everything seems to be working just fine. Syncing, videos, all the music,all looks fine BUT there is something fishy with the Photo Upload support.

I've got 250 pictures uploaded, 2 folders. He perfectly shows the folders and all the thumbs BUT when I click on a thumb he only shows me an empty grey screen.

Have I overlooked something or is this a bug? Anyone else having the same issue?

Kind regards,
Frederik

PS: apparently someone else reported the same problem in this thread

[abu]

Seems to be a real bug with the 1.0.3 FW. Please add this to the bug tracker at SF, to insure that it gets tracked.

Thanks.

[abu]

Could anybody with a iTouch please try 3.02p16. See here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....54#post2288854