Old 4th June 2007, 23:09   #1
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direct your attention here

please

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=272304


maybe this thread should have been started here but dont want you WA5'ers to miss it
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Old 4th June 2007, 23:13   #2
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You'll be wanting Windows '97 next I suppose?
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Old 4th June 2007, 23:17   #3
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but you understand what im getting at though right Jonesey.

I know your a competent enough skinner to pull it off if ya wanted to.

Windows ME too actually
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Old 5th June 2007, 01:12   #4
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I thought we already had a classic skin, that would negate the need of a classic skin in a modern format now, wouldn't it?

Face it, not everybody will be able to make freeform skins. Too bad, but that's life. That is still no reason to flood us with all kinds of similar copies of a cheap knockoff classic skin in modern format. We already get enough of those anyway; a small example is in the WTF category. The rest we flush.
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Old 5th June 2007, 02:57   #5
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you got me all wrong

I have no desire to make a classic skin.
well I do but thats off topic for this thread

My premise is to skin WA 5 like WA 2.
open the .WAL remove the PNG.'s
alter graphics
hopefully radically
as pertains to look/shape
repack and publish
only using the maki and xml that exist in the WA5 Base skin that locate where to place the png
and how it is to operate.

that way artist/s without coding ability could still skin WA5

the WA5 base skin is what it is but could it look radically different without putting one aspect of it in a different place. the only thing that I think would have to go would be the color themes in a personalized skin although they might work if incorporated properly

Hence the comparrison to skinning WA2

just making the interface for wa5 look completely different
with all the functionality in the same place

think Alien Mind by Nucleo in a Winamp 5 design or N-log
or Nostromo by Atmo.These are only listed as examples of the possibilities. Their work of course. NO ONE should even attempt updates like this but the original authors. Or any one of 1000 differently radical designs. based on the WA5 layout as the xml/maki is scripted for.

not switching to classic to use but modern skins in the WA5 base interface. skinned to look like something other than the base interface

some where in these forums I can quote you Wally as saying

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Originally posted by Koogle
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread...mp;pagenumber=1

that is the best skin winamp modern skin sadly abandoned.. the rest are pretty shit especially those old winamp 2 style ones..
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What the fuck do you know about those old Winamp 2 style ones anyway. If you insist on talking out of your arse, you might as well move right along.

Some of those old style Winamp 2 skins have ANY modern skin beat hands down.


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Old 5th June 2007, 04:41   #6
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Lol Mr Jones

Okay, amp-phibian. I'll maybe create such a skin if I get the time. Nice idea. Will slot in at #5 on my to-skin-list. The default modern skin for wa5 is much to complicated for a beginners though.

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Old 5th June 2007, 06:55   #7
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Besides, who wants a winamp4 skin?
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Old 8th June 2007, 01:57   #8
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Am I missing something here?

You can make Modern skins that work in the latest Winamp version, you can make Classic skins that work in the latest Winamp version.

What`s the prob???

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Am I missing something here?

You can make Modern skins that work in the latest Winamp version, you can make Classic skins that work in the latest Winamp version.

What`s the prob???
amp-phibian is looking for a get-out-of-jail-free card for skinning Winamp in the modern aspect.

Why not just learn XML? It doesn't take that much attention. Just plug in x and y in a few parts and you have a basic skin. Ask people if they don't mind if you rape their skin (also its code), and just go to town on it.
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Old 8th June 2007, 07:15   #10
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What a lot of people get confused with is the fact they think they need a shit load of scripting to make a decent skin.

Incorrect.

One of the best and most original skins I know of contains not a line of maki and is built entirely just using XML, and XML isn't exactly difficult to understand.

Rip apart someone elses skin, have a look how the xml works, move stuff around in it and there you go, couldn't be simpler.

When you are ready to move up to the next level then start to learn the maki side of things, but don't be confused for one minute thinking you need scripting skills to make a decent skin, in fact there is a school of thought that says too much emphasis is placed on creating whizzy scripts for skins, to the detriment of making a decent useable skin, all content and no style some might say.

And to those people who might tell you that a skin isn't a skin without all the bells and whistles a script might bring, tell them to go get bent, they clearly have no concept of reality.

There are several skins around that can help you learn basic XML, this one for example.
http://www.winamp.com/skins/details/142323

it might look like shit, but there is almost zero maki in there and the xml is even nicely commented (I think)
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Old 8th June 2007, 08:32   #11
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Yeah, maki is only really needed for the bells and whistles stuff. You can make a decent enough skin with barely any.
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Old 8th June 2007, 09:17   #12
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Hmmm, note to myself...

'say what you mean in less than 25 words in future'

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Old 8th June 2007, 13:01   #13
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Old 8th June 2007, 19:20   #14
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There are several skins around that can help you learn basic XML, this one for example.
http://www.winamp.com/skins/details/142323

it might look like shit, but there is almost zero maki in there and the xml is even nicely commented (I think)
Oh man, I remember ripping that one to SHREDS. Good times.


The other things Jones says are true. MAKI is good candy, but only few scripts offer further functionality. Hell, the only one I use is play->pause. I like Winamp Modern skins to try to work faster than Classic skins.
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Old 8th June 2007, 20:29   #15
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Thx guys! Gonna try some ripping! Never would a thunk it! Thought I was "Classic" to the bone!

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