Old 4th December 2013, 00:02   #1
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Golly. Minus the AOL stations

I was just looking at shoutcast.com and it's missing AOL sponsored stations. I read a little while ago that there were only 1 million US users of Winamp out of the 30 million installs of this thing still around. I'm looking at shoutcast.com and seeing Alex Jones using his blow hole is the number one US station. A few small timers from Loudcity. Nothing that looks remotely profitable.

Why does Microsoft want this? I can't think of a reason. It doesn't have a US audience. Webcasting rates are so high, it doesn't have broadcasters of anything but talk for a US audience.

Somebody will say "greedy", but financially viable is the right word.
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Old 4th December 2013, 02:13   #2
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Small internet radio stations dominate the business of internet radio. SHOUTcast is still the top of the food chain when it comes to broadcasting in this medium. It has proved successful with the masses time and again. If Microsoft took on the project, they are looking at a nearly-unrivaled business that is already in the lead, and only a few "major" competitors exist, most of which either charge users for the application, or base their own programming off of SHOUTcast itself. Google, Apple, etc. aren't even in on the fight. That leaves them plenty of room to expand on something that is already doing good, and has the potential to become massively popular again. Especially if professional stations want to use it.

As for Winamp itself, it is just a player...but it is one of Microsoft's biggest competitors in the media player field besides iTunes. To own their own competition, (aside from the extremely illegal problems with the idea), would be almost creating a monopoly over the field, which would pit them directly against just one major competitor: Apple. They tried the same thing with Yahoo! not long ago, hoping to go directly up against Google in the search engine area.

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Perhaps it has to do with the rankings in search engines?

https://www.google.com/search?q=internet+radio
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=internet+radio

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I see SHOUTcast as #1 on Google, but not even listed on Yahoo!...

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Result #10 on Yahoo. I would consider that pretty good considering. It's above TuneIn, etc. I also can't believe L365 is still #1.

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Old 12th December 2013, 20:34   #6
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Around the time I was working on the Dsp v2 (before DrO) I met broadcasters from
the top end of the directory who deliberately stuffed listener counts using certain
techniques to get AOL staff to notice them, After which it was easy to get lovely free bandwidth.

What you see now may be a rebalancing of the directory, showing actual listener
counts instead of the fake ones.


I could be wrong, I don't use the directory or shoutcast anymore.

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.
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I could be wrong, I don't use the directory or shoutcast anymore.
Why not? :'(

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I just found other ways of delivering and listening to music,
then I just got old, bored and bald

I had been broadcasting since I was 12 years old, starting on illegal fm radio.
I needed rest

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