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warr10r · 11th January 2015, 12:31

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Originally Posted by danton.q

I'm also on software support and software dev, but for free, open-source software. This way I can ask user to contribute.

You are using proprietary software and you are paid to make it work.

You are asking me to do your job, if you want me to help you, open Winamp source, post them on GitHub or Sourceforge and then I'll be glade to provide all informations you want and also, maybe, help you code the correction !

So even a screenshot of the problem is too much to ask? A DebugView text file is against your ethics?

Well then, I guess you're on your own...

danton.q · 11th January 2015, 12:38

I love Winamp, I use it since 1997.

I was using Winamp/SHOUTcast Radio since 2005 until 2013 (when it has stopped to work).

I hope one day I can get back to working SHOUTcast - Winamp.

I hope also SHOUTcast TV will come back (or any link to a explanation why it is discontinued and how to rebuild it for another who may want to fork).

Raj_09 · 11th January 2015, 12:39

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Originally Posted by danton.q

Raj_09, the problem is that it has worked perfectly. You had in your hands a functional Winamp/Shoutcast.

But since you bouhgt it and made some modifications, it does not work anymore.

My frustration does not come from known bugs, but from bugs you introduced and you want me to solve.

If your "fantastic team of Devs" hadn't modify anything, everything would work today.

@ danton.q

I am not a dev but just a faithful user (10 years). I have done programming enough before to know how much time and effort an overhaul can take. Some components will not work and are going to break. You got to deal with that in a mature manner and understand that things will take time to fix. You did not provide the info when asked, if I am not mistaken.

Another thing: Winamp is not open-source and posting the code on any site for you to fix is a ludicrous idea.

danton.q · 11th January 2015, 12:40

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Originally Posted by warr10r

So even a screenshot of the problem is too much to ask?

Didn't I gave 2 screenshots yesterday ? Oh yes I did...

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Originally Posted by warr10r

A DebugView text file is against your ethics?

Of course not, of course I'll be glade to Debug what you want... on open-source projects.

For privative projects, I'll also be glade, just make me a donation of 10€.

Raj_09 · 11th January 2015, 12:43

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Originally Posted by danton.q

Didn't I gave 2 screenshots yesterday ? Oh yes I did...

Of course not, of course I'll be glade to Debug what you want... on open-source projects.

For privative projects, I'll also be glade, just make me a donation of 10€.

You are wasting people's time.

danton.q · 11th January 2015, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Raj_09

You are wasting people's time.

Typical answer of people who don't know what to say else.

You attack me when I come here to make people aware that something's going wrong with Winamp.

I've reproduced the problem on Windows XP, Seven and Eight. I've always been using the latest version of Winamp. Seeing that I was sure you will find the rest by yourself, but you are so occupied with telling me that I don't answer your questions that you don't see you don't need my answer as the bug is so obvious...

Aminifu · 11th January 2015, 13:08

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Originally Posted by danton.q

I've reproduced the problem on Windows XP, Seven and Eight.

What web site page are you using for selecting SHOUTcast radio stations within Winamp? Right click on the heading in the lefthand column of the media library and select Service Management - Edit and change the url to "http://www.shoutcast.com/scradioinwinamp/".

The default page is still being worked on, this alternative page works pretty well for me (for stations that are broadcasting correctly).

DJ Egg · 11th January 2015, 13:10

@danton.q

It was the previous owner (AOL) who disabled the old online services.
All of them were hosted on AOL servers and included AOL code which we cannot use.

The SHOUTcast TV view was disabled & removed by AOL 2 or 3 years ago.
I can't see where you've stated what version of Winamp you are using, but judging by a screenshot you posted, it looks like an old version?
Only the latest version (5.666 + update patches) is supported.
There's a sticky thread in the Online Services forum which shows how you can manually add some of the old views back into 5.666, including an alternate version of the SHOUTcast TV online service.

So just to reiterate, Radionomy has not broken anything.
The broken features (such as Gracenote CDDB/AutoTag, some online services, etc) are all broken because they were either licensed by or included code by AOL, of which we are not legally authorized to use.
As explained in my previous post, these are amongst the features which we need to remove/replace before we can offer a new release.

Also, for the record, it was AOL who made money from Winamp - mainly from sales of the Pro version (which is no longer available), and from in-app ads (which are no longer included).
Radionomy currently makes no money directly from Winamp.
We are working to make Winamp freeware again.
Also note that both myself & DrO were on the old team at AOL and are the only 2 from the old team who are still on the new team at Radionomy - though neither of us were responsible for the removal of the SHOUTcast TV view or any other AOL features.
The reason why those services don't work any more is because AOL shut them down and we don't legally have permission to use them.

And I ask again that everyone please play nicely. Please be courteous, don't be rude or disrespectful. Be excellent to each other. Treat other people the same way you'd expect them to treat you. Thanks.

warr10r · 11th January 2015, 13:21

@DJ Egg: That post really whipped the llama's ass

Raj_09 · 11th January 2015, 13:43

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Originally Posted by warr10r

@DJ Egg: That post really whipped the llama's ass

Second that

GorillaCat · 12th January 2015, 02:58

Havent been on here in a while and it looks like people forgot how to wait... Just be glad people are still dedicated to this beloved program of ours and want to be involved with us.

Happy New Years Guys, Keep on Truck'n

kzitsch · 14th January 2015, 02:18

Understanding that some Winamp features have been shut down by AOL, could you tell me if that includes the window that used to be at the bottom of my screen that gave information (I think it was from Wikipedia) about the particular group I was listening to. Was that taken away too? Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Aminifu · 14th January 2015, 04:31

@kzitsch,

Yes, the Now Playing service needs to be replaced also.

davor.geci · 16th January 2015, 13:18

The year began with a nervous tone. But we must look at how realistic it is. If it were not Radionomy and team of developers who took over Winamp, today we could not even talk about any future or new versions of Winamp. So be patient a little bit, enjoy the current version of Winamp and with enthusiasm expect a surprise that the future will bring for Winamp. If we look at the progress of Shoutcast, it pays to wait for what the future brings for Winamp.
My support DrO, DJ Egg and the whole team Radionomy - Shoutcast - Winamp (and for the future and further development of the project NSIS also)

Raj_09 · 16th January 2015, 13:55

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Originally Posted by davor.geci

The year began with a nervous tone. But we must look at how realistic it is. If it were not Radionomy and team of developers who took over Winamp, today we could not even talk about any future or new versions of Winamp. So be patient a little bit, enjoy the current version of Winamp and with enthusiasm expect a surprise that the future will bring for Winamp. If we look at the progress of Shoutcast, it pays to wait for what the future brings for Winamp.
My support DrO, DJ Egg and the whole team Radionomy - Shoutcast - Winamp (and for the future and further development of the project NSIS also)

I could not have said it better. Last year, I was already contemplating a future without my beloved Winamp when there was news of AOL selling everything. Along with me, an entire community also felt the loss. Then Radionomy came and saved the show. Now, we do have a team working on Winamp and the future is promising. It is just a matter of patience.

I offer my full support to the Dev team too(DrO, DJ Egg and the team).

PS: As Winamp is going to be freeware in the future, I will be more than keen to give donations for support. But that will be for later, I guess.

rjneigenfind · 16th January 2015, 22:42

I tried to download but it apears Winamp 5.70 Full Beta 3444
Is this a official?
Thanks

Raj_09 · 16th January 2015, 23:12

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Originally Posted by rjneigenfind

I tried to download but it apears Winamp 5.70 Full Beta 3444
Is this a official?
Thanks

Check out the sticky. There is no version 5.7 out: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=373755

GorillaCat · 16th January 2015, 23:14

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Originally Posted by rjneigenfind

I tried to download but it apears Winamp 5.70 Full Beta 3444
Is this a official?
Thanks

Filehippo is showing 5.70 beta available, if its not official it should be looked into

Eagle Creek · 16th January 2015, 23:52

I love Winamp. I bought Winamp. I've been using it for many years, at Windows 95, XP, Vista and now at 7. And I still continue to use Winamp very often.

But with all do respect... a year after announcing Winamp will be revived (this thread was made January 2014) stating it will almost take another year before we hear something substantially new from Winamp is just plain ridiculous..

This way, you are losing all of your momentum, supportive users, fans and everything you've built up the past years.

I fully appreciate the dev team working on the product and trying to revive it. But in today's market, asking people to wait for 2 years, or maybe even longer, is an absolute certainty on how to kill yourself. Not to mention the extreme high expectation you are creating by letting people wait this long, which only can disappoint after so much time.

Don't get me wrong: there's nothing I'd rather see more than Winamp being brought to live again but I absolutely think this isn't the way to go.
But PLEASE: if you are serious about bringing Winamp back to live, give it priority.

The reason I'm writing this is because I love the product and I want to support the team behind it. But I'm afraid if it will take so long before a new version is released, most people have moved on, forgot about it and will never return to it. 'Back in the day' Winamp was the product to go, nowadays there's so much competition.

Trying to be constructive here. I just hope the people responsible for Winamp still love it as much as I did when I first encountered it. Don't let it die..

Victhor · 17th January 2015, 00:31

There is something you all need to understand; Radionomy bought SHOUTcast AND Winamp. Radionomy is an online-radio oriented company. Winamp will be freeware. Do your math! SHOUTcast needs to be profitable before moving on to something else, Winamp is not priority right now, as sad as that sounds to us, but if Radionomy can't make SHOUTcast make some money to pay the bills, Winamp as freeware won't do any better.

Please, bear that in mind before keep pushing about Winamp's new version, just be glad someone saved it from dying and that it won't try to make it profitable right away, in fact they are making it freeware, so it's actually better than you think, we can wait.

DJ Egg · 17th January 2015, 05:14

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Originally Posted by GorillaCat

Filehippo is showing 5.70 beta available, if its not official it should be looked into

Thanks. The filehippo link has now been removed from the 2nd post.
5.666 is the latest & only supported version and is newer than the dead/expired old 5.7 beta.

GorillaCat · 17th January 2015, 05:15

Imagine if Apple decided to hold off on making the iPhone 6 to make sure their customers were getting the best product they could get. Would a minority of people be mad? Maybe. When they release it a year later with the bending, os and battery issues fixed would the wait have been worth it (considering that the 5s was already in the market and people were pleased with it)? In my eyes, yes and the same applies to Winamp. The devs want to do things right, not just for themselves but for us the consumers. As for not getting constant updates on the project; what would be the point of releasing info most people wouldn't understand? They'd be wasting their time and ours by doing so. So please just wait, it'll be whipping the lamas ass soon enough.

KairosZenith · 17th January 2015, 06:16

@DJ Egg's post on January 11th ...... that post did kick the llama's ass. Awesome post and answer. i wish people in this world could be nicer and not lash out at other people ...... especially when they're working hard on the problems.

i know that always sucked when i used to work at a job and i worked my butt off to keep things running and the the boss would come in and get pissed off, that things aren't running better. it's makes you feel so unappreciated with them being so ungrateful ..... because if i wasn't working so hard on it, it would've been even worse than what you saw it

Thanks you guys. We (most of us) really do appreciate all you're doing to try and get this thing up and running again ..... to it's previous full glory .... or even better

yovko82 · 17th January 2015, 08:31

With patched version when playing , i have problems with the output volume to the Virtual cable (may be without it too) . I have Distortion. I installed back the original installer . Please test it .
I`m near 100% sure it`s from the patch in in_MP3 plugin

Darkday · 20th January 2015, 12:20

Winamp was my first love but we fell out when she started working for AOL. I hope now that she's working for a smaller focused company that she will remember what she was so awesome at and come back to her family.

Come back Winamp. We're waiting

Good luck guys!

Darkday · 20th January 2015, 12:22

ditto Eagle Creek.
We're on the same page

Nilesh.exe · 23rd January 2015, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Eagle Creek

I love Winamp. I bought Winamp. I've been using it for many years, at Windows 95, XP, Vista and now at 7. And I still continue to use Winamp very often.

But with all do respect... a year after announcing Winamp will be revived (this thread was made January 2014) stating it will almost take another year before we hear something substantially new from Winamp is just plain ridiculous..

This way, you are losing all of your momentum, supportive users, fans and everything you've built up the past years.

I fully appreciate the dev team working on the product and trying to revive it. But in today's market, asking people to wait for 2 years, or maybe even longer, is an absolute certainty on how to kill yourself. Not to mention the extreme high expectation you are creating by letting people wait this long, which only can disappoint after so much time.

Don't get me wrong: there's nothing I'd rather see more than Winamp being brought to live again but I absolutely think this isn't the way to go.
But PLEASE: if you are serious about bringing Winamp back to live, give it priority.

The reason I'm writing this is because I love the product and I want to support the team behind it. But I'm afraid if it will take so long before a new version is released, most people have moved on, forgot about it and will never return to it. 'Back in the day' Winamp was the product to go, nowadays there's so much competition.

Trying to be constructive here. I just hope the people responsible for Winamp still love it as much as I did when I first encountered it. Don't let it die..

I totally agree with you Eagle Creek, Please bring back original winamp ASAP or you will find too late in the market.

riahc4 · 24th January 2015, 17:14

Almost one complete year later and nothing...

old and quite mad · 26th January 2015, 16:34

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Originally Posted by riahc4

Almost one complete year later and nothing...

ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET??????

Foreverdark · 28th January 2015, 17:06

I think the llama's been whipped....

Aminifu · 28th January 2015, 17:45

What are some of you guys expecting from the 1st Radionomy release of the Winamp desktop client?

It will not be radically different from the current version we have now. It will attempt to replace the features that AOL was paying for (if adequate free alternatives can be found), fix some bugs in some core features, and update how some core features are processed internally. The user interface may have some changes, but it will not look radically different either.

For the most part, the core features of the current version work fine. If you're expecting something totally different inside and out, then maybe it's best to move on now and stop whining about how long it's taking for the release. Explanations of the process and reasonable reasons for the time needed to do the work have been given over and over.

musicf8 · 28th January 2015, 17:59

Maybe they lack patience, or they need closure, who knows. I doubt when winamp was owned by AOL they cared much for newer versions to nag the developers. It seems a lot of them either make an account on the forums just to complain about no new version or they posted a few times in the past and decided to come out of the shadows. Like nagging does anything more than annoy the developers.

I guess I am lucky because i'm still stuck on 5.56 (i think) due to that being the only version that works with ml_ipod. Still, I am looking forward to the future of Winamp and can't wait to see what tricks the developers have up their sleeve for future versions. I have been using winamp since late 1997/early 1998, so I doubt I can ever see myself moving to something else for my music, regardless of new versions. Winamp was, is, and will still be damn awesome

Raj_09 · 29th January 2015, 12:51

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Originally Posted by musicf8

Maybe they lack patience, or they need closure, who knows. I doubt when winamp was owned by AOL they cared much for newer versions to nag the developers. It seems a lot of them either make an account on the forums just to complain about no new version or they posted a few times in the past and decided to come out of the shadows. Like nagging does anything more than annoy the developers.

I guess I am lucky because i'm still stuck on 5.56 (i think) due to that being the only version that works with ml_ipod. Still, I am looking forward to the future of Winamp and can't wait to see what tricks the developers have up their sleeve for future versions. I have been using winamp since late 1997/early 1998, so I doubt I can ever see myself moving to something else for my music, regardless of new versions. Winamp was, is, and will still be damn awesome

Glad to see grateful people in the forum. I was getting tired of the whiners lately.

GorillaCat · 29th January 2015, 17:12

This might not last until the next release...

P.S. As far as any of us know there is only one dedicated guy (that cared enough to keep us posted) working on the next release of Winamp and he's not even going to bother with this thread until who knows when since people keep whining when there is a mostly working 5.666 available.

A11ectis · 29th January 2015, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Aminifu

What are some of you guys expecting from the 1st Radionomy release of the Winamp desktop client?

FreeDB and AccurateRip access, a sense of a support/release cycle, whatever other stuff is not natively accessible to Winamp without tinkering since the end of AOL support, a good out-of-the-box experience (which lends to the previous point), and probably some other stuff.

Aminifu · 29th January 2015, 21:23

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