Old 7th August 2001, 18:30   #1
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This 'History' thread is to preserve the list of appeals that have been raised in the skin removal appeal thread. Once an appeal has been dealt with by the skin review team the originators appeal and subsequent answer to that appeal will be moved over here. Forum moderators will then delete the post entirely from that thread, leaving only appeals that have yet to be dealt with.

The skin removal appeal thread can be located here.
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Old 18th August 2001, 10:42   #2
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Originally posted by chiquita chad
ok... ill be the first.

http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=69244Tiffany Taylor (pink version)(this skin is published.

http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=69336Tiffany Taylor (Blu Version) (the 'so called rip') This skin was a color variation of the Tiffany Taylor skin. As you can see, the authors names are the same.


http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=69245(Dragonball-Z Elite2) I made this skin awhile ago and submitted it. When it was published, I noticed a very large file size (somewhere around 500K). I then remembered that I forgot to crop some bitmaps. I deleted the skin, fixed the problem, and re-submitted the skin.
If you search the database, you will notice that the original (made by me) is no longer inexistence.

Dats all Folks

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Old 18th August 2001, 10:45   #3
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Originally posted by DeLoreanfan3
Hello there,

My name is James A. Mills. I have been publishing/creating Winamp skins for quite some time. Most of the regular Winamp Skin Surfers are familiar with my work. To make a long story short, after much anticipated success with my skins: (Cindy Margolis, Evil Jenny McCarthy, and Alyssa Milano) I recently got an e-mail stating that my skins are going to be removed from the site because they are 16-bit BMP's instead of being 32-bit BMP's and the latest submissions are being rejected for the same reason. What in the hell is that? Is that some kind of business decision? I can understand if my skins were offending to people, but they aren't. They are my works of art so to speak. I have always been a loyal Winamp user and an avid fan but this is enough. Why are my skins being removed without just cause??? Answer me that. In a way, I feel like I am being slapped in the face. Earlier today after reading the e-mail sent to me by the "Skinner Experts" at www.Winamp.com, I began to look around and I see that there are skins just like mine still being published. I feel like this is "Selective Proscution". I know that many of you are having the same problems as I. So here is my ideal solution, if you (WINAMP) don't like our skins, we will take them to someone that appreciates them. Such as: WWW.SKIN4ALL.COM!!!! They will take them with open arms. So...In closing, I say this. If Winamp.com doesn't want my work, then I shall move on with diginity. Unfortunely, Winamp.com doesn't have any.

Sincerely,
James A. Mills
DeLoreanfan1@DeLorean.com
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16-bit bitmaps cause a preview image to appear dark. Your skins are being rejected since the preview image is screwed up by this. If you use your image-editing program to convert the bitmaps to 32-bit, the preview images will appear properly and the skins will be accepted. BTW, if your skin were rejected for being offensive you would get an e-mail about "objectionable content."
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Old 18th August 2001, 10:49   #4
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Noiw there are allready 2 skins the reviewing squad refuses to submit.
First there was this one: http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=60240

Why? Because they claimed it to be a rip...Well, I'm sure it it isn't because I made I completely from scratch, and if you look at http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=47499 , I allready made another one in the same series that has been allowed.....

Then, the other skin.....
I made a series about the 20th century Empires, and next skins have been published...

http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=60458
http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=60240
http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=60292

But this skin is refused for submission because of "objectionable content". Of course I can understand the issue, but there is no logic. Stalin had more innocent people killed then Hitler, so why allow a CCCP-skin. Also Maoan China and the Japanese empire had an enormous amount of people killed. Also these skins are allowed....

The reason for making these last series of skins is to remind people of the cruelty that happenend in countries with extremists beliefs. I wanted to remind people that the USSR and Nazi-Germany belong in the same category......

Are you boycotting me? I just started to get the interest back of starting to make new skins. Now it's all gone. Stop screwing over other peoples skins and crying if other people don't like yours.....

I don't care if you like my skins or not, if it's becasue of political reasons (censorship), or because of aesthetical reasons. I worked hard on each of my skins, and the least thing I espect from you people is that they are allowed.......

Where is the time when no one could mess up your stars, and at least everyone was rated farely
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I forgot the link of the other skin that had been refused... That's this one. It might shock you, but if you consider he reason of submitting, the fact that it's part of a series of skins that HAVE BEEN allowed, and the fact that it's not aestheticly bad, there is no reason of not allowing it.....

http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=72619

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this is the correct skin.... sorry....

http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=47498

Thanks for trying to fix this...



PS: My skins show no hatred. I'm against hatred in every form. That's the reason I made this skins: to open peoples eyes to what happened.

There is an other author called Tompa. who does depict hatred, because he makes skins about Neo-Nazi-groups that are acitve now. Why not deleting his skins? Because few people ever heared of these organisations? That's stupid, because it are these kind of skins that the real skinheads and people like them download, and not my skin that is just about history.....

(Tompa's skins:
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.jhtml;$sessionid$VIP5D3QAB1A3E5YAAAARC0A?componentId=54290
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews.jhtml;$sessionid$VIP5D3QAB1A3E5YAAAARC0A?rOT=C&rOI=50732
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews.jhtml;$sessionid$VIP5D3QAB1A3E5YAAAARC0A?rOT=C&rOI=50733
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews.jhtml;$sessionid$VIP5D3QAB1A3E5YAAAARC0A?rOT=C&rOI=61145
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=50815
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=64413
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=44301
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=44303
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=49316
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=50581
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=53754
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=49464
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=54033
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=54535
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=55172
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=62115
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=62121
http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews....OT=C&rOI=72364)

How did find them? By searching for "nationalist", "thule", "svea" or "skinhead". Can it be more clear that this guy is a Swedish nationalistic Neo-Nazi asshole, who tries to propagandize his beliefs through his skins on this site. You allow him to submit all this crap, but this one single skin that's made in a series of definitely non-offensive skins, you ban....

I don't understand, really.......
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Originally posted by Mr Jones
Number 1 ) Your first problem will be resolved when it's resolved, it was an error and will be corrected.

Number 2 ) Your second skin was rejected for objectionable content. The reason being, the skin squad was told not to post any "hate" content skins, skins portraying the swastika fall into this section. The reason why your other skins were posted , they were posted way before the skin squad and review guidelines were put in place, May the 18th by the look of things. At this time , skins were posted on the site in great blocks, sometimes a 1000 at a time, given a generic star rating and pushed out there. This now dosn't happen.

At some point in the near future the entire skin database will be reviewed, each skin checked for content. Skin depicting hate, porn, general bad taste will be removed from the site.

Hope this answers your questions.

[edit] I'll fix the first one if you provide the correct link[/edit]
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Fixed Illusions667's wrongly denied skin located here...

http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=47498
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Old 18th August 2001, 10:53   #5
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Look, I've just received those e-mails:

Your component 'Grafitte CL-X' is now unpublished.
The component has objectionable content.
Please visit http://www.winamp.com and resubmit your updated component. You were moderated by e-blackadder. If you have any qualms, Please visit the forum http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=55236, and state your case.

At first, what means "objectionable content"? That skin was already published, without any problem. I have just made a little change on it, and tried to republish. And now, it's refused? Why?

Now, about the second skin. The same e-mail:

Your component 'Heidi in Amp 2001' is now unpublished.
The component has objectionable content.
Please visit http://www.winamp.com and resubmit your updated component. You were moderated by e-blackadder. If you have any qualms(...)

There's nothing intrusive, or immoral in this skin. It's just a picture of a girl! In the first time, I submitted this skin (Heidi in Amp) but for some reason, it has just disappeared from my skins control area. So, I tried to submit it again, but received an error message, saying that there was a skin with the same name in the database (my skin! ) So, I've changed the name to "Heidi in Amp 2001" and was waiting for the review... until now. I would like to know WHY exactly my skin was refused. I'm sure that it has no objectionable content...
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I have checked now my skins in my skin control area. Both of them are marked with the same name. "Grafitte CL-X" is shown like "Heidi in Amp 2001" - diferent pictures, but the same name and descriptions. But I'm sure it wasn't my fault! Could it be the problem? If so, deleting and resubmiting them would resolve?
Resolved here
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I'll even address this one for you guy. I had to say no to "Heidi in amp" because unless I'm blind, the magnificent Ms Heidi is bottomless, (on the minibrowser) and that is a definite no-no now. Don't get me wrong... I LOVED that skin. I thought you did a magnificent job on it, and she is a beauty to behold. But... no nudity.

As for your second one, that was an accidental refusal. I will assume it was caused by the fact that on occasion the new system has minor twitches like not loading pics, etc. If I remember correctly, the page expired while loading after "Heidi" and when refreshed, came up with Heidi again. I refused her thinking that the first one didn't go through, and what I bet happened was it loaded "Graffiti" with her pic. For that I am sorry, and please by all means re-submit.
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Ok, a last worry about that 2 skins...
I've already made the appropriate changes to "Heidi in Amp", and tried to publish it, with "Grafitte CLX". And now, my skins control area are crazy! Sometimes I just can't see any skin on the Unpublished Skins, and when I see them and click to edit, they are with changed names, again! And I'm sure it wasn't my fault, again...
The ID numbers are these:
Heidi in Amp-2001: 76686
Grafitte-CLX: 76689
Could someone check it for me?
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They are ok. Both are in the cue again, waiting to be published.
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Old 24th August 2001, 08:18   #7
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This is an outrage!
Does winamp.com actually read the description for skins?
My skin, "Razor", and several others were specifically designed for
16-color systems (i.e., laptop users, VGA systems, etc.)! It's not our fault that winamp.com doesn't use a screen capture program that
works reliably! Get off your fat, lazy Macs! And if you need
assistance, please contact the author of the skin, rather than
blindly removing the skin altogether. Way to show support for skin
authors guys.

Geesh!

And btw, next time you want me to reply to one of your messages, please don't remove my account, either.
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dear jrofkar, your skin is still there, however unpublished. The idea behind the 16 bit bmp denial is that the skin's screenshot looks rather messy and will maybe not attract as many people to d/l it as it would deserve otherwise. I don't know, how many 16 - color VGA systems are still in use, that are able to deal with mp3 files, however I'll be happy to help when you provide me with your skin IDs

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dear jrofkar, thank you for your email. I brought your case to the backstage, please have a little patience
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Cyana:

I look forward to hearing your response. If the committee needs any more justifications for publishing the Razor skin, please have them contact me personally.

Thanks in advance,
-Jim.

SIZE=1]P.S. - Attached, please find a complimentary screen capture of the 16-color Razor skin. Enjoy.[/SIZE]
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Cyana:

When I tried to resumbit my Razor skin, I was presented with an "Error: A component by this name already exists in our database."

So, I decided to rename it. The *new* component is called "Razor2", and is currently unpublished. The *new* component ID for Razor2 is 77385.

Hope this helps.

Let me know if you need any further info.
-Jim.
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dear jrofkar, thank you for resubmitting your skin and again, please have a little patience - I've put your case on the table again and hope to have an answer soon

Sorry for all your inconvenience
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Old 24th August 2001, 08:20   #8
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Hi, I received this e-mail:

"Your component 'default winamp skin made blue' is now gone forever.
The component is a rip of another component
You were moderated by wildrose-wally. ..."

If you just look at the title, it *says* DEFAULT WINAMP SKIN ... made BLUE, which means that it's a modification of default skin. If that's why you think it's a rip, then that's silly. I for one hate the way the default skin looks. It's extremely tacky. The design is perfect, but it just needs different colors. I have made 8 modifications of the default skin, and they're all at my site for download. I always use the blue skin, because it goes with my windows color scheme. The bright green on the default skin is very ugly to look at, and the rest of the default skin looks dirty/slimy/grimy.

What I did is cut out all the buttons and put them into a .psd file in grayscale, so i could have different layers to move around and modify easily. Next, I used Adobe Photoshop's 'fill' command to fill the grayscaled default skin with something like 15% blue. After filling the default skin, I took each set of buttons and copied the layer onto the appropriate file, so the result was a colored main window with grayed buttons and I preserved the colors in the slider bars. I think it looks wonderful, and much less tacky than the default skin.

Now, on the other hand, if you think that I ripped this skin from someone else, you are greatly mistaken. If you don't believe that I was the one who modified the default skin to make it blue with grayed buttons, I have the .psd files on my hard drive to prove it. I can e-mail it to an admin if he or she likes.

Please tell me why it was removed, because I think you're taking away from the community, forcing them to look at the tacky default skin instead of my blue modification. There are people out there like me who love the default design and graphics on the buttons, but don't like the colors.

Thanks,
Andy Dufilie
a_s_d@snet.net
http://pages.cthome.net/pdufilie/
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Hi,

I am sorry I have to give you a disappointing answer, But a rip of the base skin is stil a rip. You are very welcome to make one, you just won't be able to publish it anymore.
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Old 1st September 2001, 14:10   #9
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my skin is not an entire rip, the aim was to allow people who only want to use winamp 2 to have the look of winamp 3, i know there are others that do the same but they were of the old winamp 3 skin, i did not take the graphics straight from the skins wal file, the reason i called it "winamp 3 alpha 667" was to give credit to the winamp 3 creators. I don't entire care if you post it or not, but my aim was to show people the look of winamp 3 and give credit to the makers of winamp 3 by doing so.

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your skin was denied because it has been done already, many times. It is considered a true rip since another skinner (not winamp) has submitted your design and been accepted by winamp. While I understand that you most likely did not rip the skin, the exact same design is already in the database for wa2 users to enjoy.
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yeah yeah whatever... whoever gets in first hey? unlucky for me. oh well, shit happens, the reason so many people use the design is because its sich a good one, nice work nullsoft.
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my skin is now gone for ever as i formated my hard drive ad installed winxp, oh well, i don't even use wa2 anymore, its either wimp or wa3 for me.
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[][][]-pyuria-[][][], what was the component ID number? We might be able to recover the skin before it disappears from the db.
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don't worry, i only have wa3 now.
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Old 1st September 2001, 14:13   #10
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My skin "Boston Red Sox 2K1" was removed and deleted forever because it was a called a rip, but it is definately not. It is 100% original. There is absolutely no reason to have removed it.
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Your component 'Tarheels' is now gone forever.

The component has objectionable content.


Your component 'Allen Iverson' is now gone forever.

The component has objectionable content.


These were the two messages I got, what is objectable about those two skins? Unfortunatly I cant show em to you because its deleted off the DB....

They were:
http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=42141
http://www.winamp.com/components/det...ponentId=61418


How did this happen? Who reported it? What basis did they delete those two skins?
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I was just curious how my skin could possibly be a rip? When I searched for other Washington Capitals skins, I didn't find any. I had the only one. And it was called a rip, after I worked hard on it.

Component ID: 57416

Please look into the matter. Thanks.
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AOL, site owners of winamp.com have told winamp to remove Major League based sports skins from the site, so yours, along with several dozen other ones have been removed unfortunately.

Sorry, what can you do, what AOL says goes
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Old 1st September 2001, 14:17   #11
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My skin is NOT a rip.
It's as simple as that. If you think it's a rip tell me who i riped from! I put a lot o effort into my skin and now its unpublished!

Trust me.


Publish my skin, please.

-Mrharhar

[edit] ADDITIONAL USER FOLLOW UP COMMENTS ADDED HERE[/edit]





UN-resolved after 2 weeks due to non user reply
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Please provide the skin component number of your skin so this can be investigated.

Moving to the rip appeal thread as you were asked to do the first time you posted.
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Old 1st September 2001, 14:19   #12
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To whom it may concern

My skin Khanda Amp [Component ID: 53885] is no friggin RIp...there are only 3 khanda skins now since mine was removed
when i searched for it, and each one is different so i cant see how you can justify that my skin is a rip..

can you please look into this and see whether you can publish my skin again.
it would be much appreciated..

regards Jedimaster 18

p.s.if you dont have it i have put it in my skins section again.
un-resolved after 2 weeks due to lack of user response

cutn pasted to this thread. You're welcome.

Welcome to the forums.

[edit] ding ding, merged thread -MJ[/edit]
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Old 8th September 2001, 17:06   #13
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Would anyone coming here to report a sports skin that has been deleted please read the following.

As of 31st August 2001 Winamp.com administration have been asked by site owners AOL to remove major league sports and College Team based skins, this task has already started and yours may be amongst the first round of removals.

As of today 1st of September 2001, there is still no official explanation other than these words from the skin database manager.


I have asked for clarification on this, but as it's the weekend, no administration types are available.

If you wish to debate this further , please move to this thread to carry on the conversation.

http://64.12.38.241/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58856

Any future sports skin comments will be moved there for the time being.

Thank you for your patience in this matter.
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Old 8th September 2001, 17:09   #14
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Your component 'Perfect Works - Elhaym Van Houten' is now unpublished.

The component has objectionable content.



This was the e-mail I recieved when my skin was reviewed. Now, I do know why it is remaining unpublished, I half expected it since it shows breasts (even though it's anime.) I don't really have a problem with this, I can understand why winamp.com would want to keep skins with nudity (mild or not) from being published. But my problem is that, before I even started making skins, I downloaded a Neon Genesis Evangelion skin from (you guessed it, winamp.com) and the nudity it contains is about the same as mine. Now, i'm not trying to get this skin removed from the site, I would just like to know where the difference occurs.

I can put a picture of both my skin and the Evangelion up on my site if necessary, but I don't have the time right now.

http://www.xenogears.org/Perfect%20Works/cover.jpg This link can give you an idea of what kind of nudity my skin contains.
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A quick search tells me that the skin that you refer to is no longer on the winamp site. The reasoning behind all this was that way back when Nullsoft was its own boss, they had total control over what was available on the site - including skins. A lot of nude skins were available then.

But due to the takeover by AOL a lot of new rules are in place regarding skin content. If you think that nude skins are all that is banned, think again. We (the skin review team) received an e-mail a few days ago informing us that major league sports skins are no longer allowed on the site either. More corporate red tape, but nothing can be done - they own the site.

Hope this serves as some explanation as to why your skin was refused.

.:Mike:.
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I was going to just edit my message to save space, but the time limit expired...

Anyway, thanks for the answer, it clears things up quite a bit. I can understand nudity but baseball... that's going a bit too far IMO. Maybe AOL would like to burn some books next?

Any idea on when the search feature will be back up? Using google.com to search returns less than adequate results.
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Old 8th October 2001, 13:22   #15
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Yall deleted my skin for some reason i dont even know what the component # was anymore. But it wasnt a rip. there is no skin on this site that is anything like it.

here is the email i recieved

Your component 'Kenwood eXcelon' is now gone forever.

The component is a rip of another component

If you have any qualms, Please visit the forum
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=55236, and state your
case.

Thank you.

- Winamp Skin Review Team

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Did it look like this skin...



Also called Kenwood eXcelon.

Located here....

http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=27316

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Old 8th October 2001, 13:24   #16
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hi
think i'm offtopic but mike the lama send me here...

with that mail:

>Your component 'bpmscanv07' is now unpublished.
>
>We experienced problems during installation. This needs to be >resolved.
i can't find any problems... so what should i do now?
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we're having bigtime database problems. Once the database is back up, just resubmit it and see what happens. When it's back up, we'll probably say so here.
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Old 8th October 2001, 13:26   #17
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:15:46 I got this e-mail:



The component I submitted (which used to be here) was an updated version of my skin 'The X Files v2' -- okay, it may not have been the hugest overhaul you've ever seen, but it wasn't just a duplicate either.
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Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.
Due to the database problems, the only thing you can do at this point is to resubmit, and our great "new" review squad will take a look at it.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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Old 8th October 2001, 13:29   #18
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Your component 'GDivX' is now gone forever.

The component is a rip of another component

If you have any qualms, Please visit the forum http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=55236, and state your case.

Thank you.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!!!!! This skin is not a rip. It's a skin based on a program called GDivX that can be found on www.gdivx.com

How can you call this a rip? If I make a skin that looks exactly like a Nintendo gameboy, is that a rip too???????

STOP MESSING WITH MY SKINS, YOU ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whether you ripped it from the artwork of another site, or from another skin, it is still a rip. Sorry, can't do nothing for you.
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In that case every skin that is based on Windows 98 of Windows XP, or any other program or website is a rip. Cummon, dude.


STOP MESSING WITH ME!!!!!
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I thought I'd make my remark official.



Here you have an official response from the SRS. The matter is therefore closed unless Wally wishes to say something else, and any further appeal must be taken to admin directly. I suggest you look on the staff page for emails, or use the site comment function.

Thank you -

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I do not trest until I get my apology. Making a skin that looks like another program is not a rip, and the proove is the large amount of windows-styled skins in the dataase. I also found skins that tried to look like "real player", "napster",...

Are these rips too? No, they aren't, and my skin isn't either.

Do your duty, and admit your mistake. Apologize.




Now I'm off to bed. Have a nice time accusing me, and calling me names, everybody. I know you like it!

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I merely repeat that there were enough elements in your skin similar to another skin to warrant it's removal. Similarity to a program has nothing to do with it. Admin could we please put an end to this?
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Hi all,

I just received an e-mail that my submission (skin Angedelo 2a) was deleted. I know it's based on the old Angedelo skin (hence the name). But the author of the original Angedelo skin is an unknown Frenchman who never responded to my mails. The mail address appeared to be invalid or changed and his provider would not give any other contact information. Since there where quite a few graphical bug in Angedelo I decided to fix those. When the minibrowser and AVS became part of Winamp I skinned that window too (and believe me, it took many hours to make that look cool).

A little later I read at a Dutch forum that there were several other Angedelo users complaining about the graphical bugs and non-skinned parts. So I decided to upload my fixed angedelo skin for these people. This became Angedelo 2. I received quite a lot positive e-mail about the new Angedelo and people encouraged me to continue support for Angedelo. Also on the Winamp skin pages my skin got positive comments and scores.
So after a few updates it became Angedelo 2a.

However, to call it a rip-off? It was stated very clearly in the readme and extra skin info that (except for the minibrowser, AVS and some graphical corrections) the skin was not my work but from an unknown Frenchman. I didn't take credits for the skin (and the Winamp reviewer praised me in his review of the skin for not taking credits!). I just wanted to keep the rocking Angedelo skin up to date for all Angedelo lovers who never saw any update to this great skin...

Now all traces of the Angedelo skin and updates are gone... Angedelo lovers are left in the cold. I really understand the move of deleting rip-offs, but updating a long forgotten skin without taking credits isn't a rip-off.

Is Angedelo dead? I hope not...
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http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=49379 The_Krill
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=29932 Angedelo 2000 R2
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=16549 Angedelo Digital
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=10254 Angedelo II
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=10175 Angedelo Digi
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...mponentId=7562 Angedelo 2
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...mponentId=4540 Angedelo
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...mponentId=4343 Nick Amp
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...mponentId=3241 Neat Amp
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...mponentId=1689 Angedelo Blue

Is Angedelo dead? Hardly, this is all the RIP's I found with a simple search.

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http://www.mp3.gr/Skins/Winamp/Angedelo/angedelo.zip
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Mmmh, sorry. I've searched for Angedelo and the search returned that nothing could be found. Maybe search was down for a moment. Anyway, it's working again. Thanks for the correction!

Now, what amazes me is that Angedelo 2 (also by me) is still in the skins database while my update 2a has been deleted. Kinda confusing. If I update my own work it's called a rip off?

If one needs to be deleted, why not the old one (Angedelo 2) and not the update?

Or is there a way to upload new versions of your skin under the same name (overwriting the old submission)? Is that how I should add updates?

I'm not so familiar with the Winamp skin submission as many of you who have designed many skins. I just uploaded my updated skin because there was demand for an update.
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Could someone clarify the objectionable content and maybe publish it in the process? It doesn't show a lot of skin, am I censored because of that or my blatant advertising? I already have a Thongamp 1 up somewhere so please give the people what they want. Yes, I'm doing this for the people.
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Well, I hate to break it to you, but the people who own this site don't want it. Sorry.
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Um how about having a mod respond to my question.
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I am an authorized question answerer in this thread, and also a skin reviewer. A mod is not going to tell you any different.
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I'm a mod, and a reviewer , Wally speaketh the truth.

Sorry dude.
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So my skin is deleted because of objectionable content? Just what is
is so objectionable? Naked breasts? Oh no...
If that's not allowed then please post that in the submission rules. It's not like it's porn or anything.
Compared to some of the skins, mine is quite well put together. What's more objectionable, my skin of a beautiful woman (Eva Herzigova), or a skin with shirtless David Hasselhoff? For example:

Hasselhunk
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Rico Suave.

When I posted the skin up, like almost a year and a half ago, no one said a thing. So if outright nudity is not allowed or even any nudity, then a bunch of the girl skins on Winamp will need to be purged. Mine isn't even sexual, sensual yes, sexual no.
Anyways, that's my two bits. I hope you reconsider or change the wording of the submission rules if you haven't already.



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I am 32 and have a 3 year old, girl. What's yer point?

Nudity is not bad.
Even super ultra tame nudity, like mine which can be found in any fashion mag. Especially of Eva Herzigova.

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Screenshots of all 3 skins that have been deleted. Why now? Like I said in my appeal thread, they've been on for like a year and a half.

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You also forgot to notice the publish date on the said skin, may 2001, seeing as the review team has only been working since August its no wonder it was never seen.

Old skins that don't fall into the guidelines that the reviewers were issued with will be deleted in time, pretty big job to go through 40,000 skins tho.

Rest assured you are not being singled out for removal, the guidelines that the reviewers work to clearly stated that partial of full nudity was a no-no. Personally I think thats wrong, censor nothing, but as this isn't my site, and I don't pump money into it to keep it running, I have no say in the matter, I only help implement the guidelines given to us by the head llamas.

By the way, this is in the wrong thread, the appeals thread is up there, which is where I'll be moving this to ........
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My Cavs Amp was unpublished by Winamp with allegations of objectionable content in it. I'd like to know what's objectionable on it so I can at least change it so it gets published. I gotta say, though, that I looked over and over again at it and didn't find anything that could be agressive to anyone, it's a simple skin of a basketball team, the Cleveland Cavaliers. If you explain what's wrong in it, I promise I'll try and change it, but yet I hope you look at it again and see that there's nothing wrong with it. Thank you for your patience,
Adriano
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AOL does not allow Major League Sports skins anymore, sorry.
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I got the following e-mail:
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Your component 'CGs LCARS skin' is now unpublished.

We have received a missing or bad screenshot. Please resubmit your
component.
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But everytime I try to re-submit it I get the following error messages:
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ERROR Error encountered while creating new files.
ERROR The component file you have uploaded is not a valid skin archive.
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A bit of a problem with the data base. Try again in a few days please.
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A RIP!!

AIWA MP3 POWER

Yeah right come on... taking me forever to make, bullshit thats it... thats the last time I make a skin, no I USE WINAMP!

FUCK NULLSOFT AND ALL THEIR CREW...

NO RESPECTS FROM ME... EVER...

Thinking that my skin was a rip was a joke, GO MEDIA PLAYER 8.0

At least Microsoft are fucked up but not as much as the people who THINK THAT MY SKIN WAS A RIP!

Yeah right after thousands of downloads and this is my appreciation...

So anyways... fuck this Winamp3 Shit... it is never going to be released which was the only reason I joined this place, but the fools making it have taken forever to come up with a pretty shit ALPHA!

Like come on, it only took the creator of the original Winamp, version 1.0 i think not even half the time it has taken the alpha to be released... now that is a joke!
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BTW, ranting and raving does not get anything accomplished here, so cool it a little, will ya.
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my skin "reson2" was unpublished, b/c of "We have received a missing or bad screenshot. Please resubmit your component."
Now my account dosn't exist, plus i've been waiting now for 2 months to publish. can you tell me exactly what to do to prevent this problem, i just got a new skin publishing account and would realy be thankful if i don't have to wait another 2 months.
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The missing screenshot is beyond yours and our control, and is caused by the winamp data base going on the blink 3 times a day. All you can do is resubmit and hope for the best.
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This is the first time I have used the forum so if I've popped up in the wrong place, sorry.
My skin Telemachus after two months is finally published, fifteen minutes later it is unpublished because of a missing or bad screenshot?
I gather there is a problem with the database.
I am asked to republish and after this attempt I'm told the wsz file is not valid?
Just what exactly am I supposed to do?
I've waited a long time (two months) to have this skin published and the file obviously works or it couldn't have been reviewed in the first place.
I have E Mailed in two different directions and am now attempting this in the hope that someone will communicate with me.
After waiting so long all this is extremely frustrating and irritating.
All I want is my skin published without fuss or having to wait any longer.
Help me.
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Hi,

I can sympatize with your problem, which is all our problems. There is nothing to be done, except keep on trying to resubmit every couple of days or so, since we don't have a clue when the data base works properly, and when it does not. As soon as we can, we will publish as many skins as possible before it breaks again, which happens too frequently lately.
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www.1001winampskins.com

I have to say I have been waiting for two months to have my skin published at the above site, but then as far as I can tell it's run by just one chap so that's not unreasonable.
This site, at least, does not accept poor quality, incomplete or 'skinning software' skins. You have to skin all the components from scratch, not rip, and display some sense of style. The winamp.com directories are hideously unwieldy because they accept even the shabbiest efforts, this also increases the workload of the reviewers.
Also this chap is polite enough to reply to you if you EM him.
If only Winamp would adopt his standards. I have had my skin unpublished, as far as I can tell from the auto EM, simply because the database is fucked, I was asked to resubmit and the Db wouldn't allow it. No-one at Winamp has actually responded to my (several) EMs so I don't know what to think. If they would just adopt a basic skin standard to stop people doing things like overloading the system with multiple themed, poor quality, 'skinner' generated skins then maybe the site would be easier to maintain and the users of the site would be a happier bunch.
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Dear Cyana,

I?ve read the ?skinner? piece and I suspected that this was the reason for allowing such entries. I understand and agree with what was said I?m just a little worked up because my ?fun? has been ruined by auto-generated, cryptic Ems and uncooperative Dbs which are not conducive to a balanced frame of mind.
Perhaps some system of fragmentation for the directory structure would help, after all a 12,000 entry directory is only ever likely to have the first few entries perused, the rest are effectively buried beyond the limit of most peoples? browsing patience. Perhaps even a few directories dedicated to fledgling efforts would help. Perhaps just splitting the directories into 1-500, 500 ? 1000 and so on.
I didn?t know about what AOL has done, it?s a familiar tale these days and I sympathise, in fact I worked for a small concern that was taken over and eventually destroyed in this short-sighted way. I?m sure the Nullsoft team are doing a great job under difficult circumstances and I wish them well.
It?s such a pity, you would have thought that AOL would have increased staff and funding, not the opposite. Perhaps it?s the peter principle at work in AOL?s middle management.
So, I take your point, thanks for the info.

Regards

Paul
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yeah i sent my skin in like 2 months ago also. finally it gets submited and about 5 hours latter kicked off. we have the same story. and i don't even know what a rip is.

does anyone know of any other sites that have good skin publishing and stuff? just for a while while winamp gets on it's feet? if so plz post the sites, if you e-mail me i won't recognize it and probably delete it.

thanks
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Dear pleroma & JojoTheMunkey02 - we all were unhappy about this situation. Please do not lay it on the great folks at Nullsoft. They went through a hard time in the last months, half of their crew has been set free by AOL, including Kyle who was the main developer and keeper of the skin database. Also for us reviewers the situation was frustrating. Before the database went down, we already were at a publish delay of less than three weeks (after more than 2 months when we began).

Regarding the skinner.exe skins - this topic has been discussed here already many times, please look here for an explanation of Nullsoft's skin publishing policy, and I support it in every word and sentence. Skinning is intended to be FUN. Everything else is second place So please, have a little patience and help Nullsoft and the skinning community with your cool skins to make this place the greates and most complete place for our beloved winamp skins
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hi,

i recieved an email with following sentence and a link to this thread:

The component has objectionable content.

Can someone tell me what they meen with objectionable content? There were not any more details. How can i fix my skin?

thanks (sorry for my bad english)
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Objectionable content would be nudity, crime, promoting hatred, major league and college sport, Disney, and anything else AOL might decide from time to time.
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Your component 'WSUamp' is now unpublished.

The component has objectionable content.
I have previously made a skin and then republished a newer version. But for some reason the new version was rejected. Some explanation would be helpful

http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.j...ponentId=28916

here was my original post that was removed when the republishing occurred both the previous and new version were made by ME
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Objectionable content would be nudity, crime, promoting hatred, major league and college sport, Disney, and anything else AOL might decide from time to time.
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I cannot get my skin published because it has objectional content. That is just great, except I would like to know what it is, I mean there are naked women skins on here that somehow got published, and I freaken made one for the University of Iowa, what is the deal Llama Lovers????
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dammit jones I was in the middle of a reply

To answer the question: AOL asked Nullsoft to pull a lot of sports skins man. Sorry, but it sounds like you got hit along with a lot of other peeps.
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Ok, I now understand that because aol is being really funked up I can not have a skin about a university. Well, I have a few comments/questions. Do you think this will ever change??? I mean I did spend 80 hours of my life making it, yes I am slow like that Also when did you know about this, and when did you tell people so that they would not waste thier time? It would have been really nice back in August when I made it if I knew that it was just going to be for my own personal giggles. Does anyone know of a alternative site that I could post it on? I am very frustrated right now, and I have had it up to here, yes here, with this junk. Ok, anyways, if there is anyway to get it published give me some ideas. I posted a graphic of it along with my current thoughts about this matter.
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take the logo off and you can publish it here.

or try
http://www.1001winampskins.com
http://www.deviantart.com
or deskmod ( think it's http://www.deskmod.com )

and if you're not skinning cause its fun, then why bother at all man?
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I've had 2 skins removed so far, due to objectional material. I admit, they were a lil' to the limit as far as nudity; but exactly how much skin, or what body parts need to be seen for a skin to need to be removed? One of mine was of a shot from the D'Angelo video where he's pretty much nude, but his "manhood" isn't seen. And the other skin is of a girl in a bikini with a lot of breast exposed (no nipples though). So is there a limit to how far someone can push it?
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in cases like this, we need to see a pic of the skin to be able to tell if you got screwed. As far as nudity goes, it's the usual thing. Actual sex is worse than dick is worse than pussy is worse than tits is worse than ass, and pretty much all of these things will get you removed/not published to begin with. I guess ass is up to the individual reviewer, but you get the point.
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Sorry if this does not come out right I have not posted very much in the forum. I just want to know what was wrong the skin 'Purple Rei.

not sure how to point to the skin but the number is 47880
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If you ever watched the series you would know that she is wearing a plug suit, there is no nudity, suggest you search for REI in anime and see how many other skins show her with a plug suit. You might even expand the image and take a good look - and tell me just where you see any nudity.
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We're discussing this backstage now. See if you can dig up that Component ID Number in the meantime. We'll see where she lands.

[edit] Nevermind on the ID Number. See you posted it above. [/edit]
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Hey you guys are doing a great job and this thread does work. My skin was republished after it was reviewed for Objectional material which it did not have.

Thanks
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Old 24th October 2001, 09:09   #33
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got this message

Your component 'Bridget Hall v1.2' is now unpublished.

The component has objectionable content.

Please visit http://www.winamp.com and resubmit your updated component. If you
have any qualms, Please visit the forum
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=55236, and state your case.

Thank you.

- Winamp Skin Review Team

it's component 22497, I've attached a small pic

now I don't really care that it's unpublished, it's an old skin anyway
but I do find it iffy that they find it objectionable, sure she's naked but everything is covered, there isn't a nipple in sight.
just for future reference how much nudity is objectinable?
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Lemme investigate, MTG. We find out for ya.
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Bridget Hall v1.2 has been republished. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Err, what the hell is a "16-bit BMP"?? Never seen one in my life!

If it was to be about 8-bits, then what the hell is wrong with 8-bit bitmaps? They're 3 times smaller and lose NO visual quality when used correctly...

Next, "Component preview images are too dark." - but what if my skin IS generally dark, for dark-minded people? Do I have to make the preview much brighter than the skin is itself???
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16 or 8 bit bitmaps don't go over well with winap.com's screenshot generation process. It renders the skins using such bitmaps almost completely black in their screenshots, thereby making it useless to the author and downloader. In the rare instances where authors have done this on purpose, they generally note it, and we leave it alone. If yours is such a case, please do so, and resubmit it.
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My skin is certainly not objectional material. It is for a DIII school in Michigan. There is a Hornet (which happens to be the school logo) on it. I guess that AOL/Nullsoft is trying to alienate the majority of their users (COLLEGE STUDENTS) by not hosting these skins.

I think that AOL/Nullsoft need to seriously reconsider what is ok and what isn't.

Also, I don't want to pick on people who already have skins hosted, but if you're going to deny my skin, shouldn't their skin be removed as well?

If you interested in seeing my skin, it's at:
http://www.1650design.com/derek

Derek
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Hi, on behalf of the skin review team, (who BTW do not work for AOL but are volunteers from all over the world) the word we got about College sports skins was not to publish them any more. This is because corporate sponsorship is worth a lot these days and is more important than winamp skins.
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I was curious as to what about the UCFAmp Skin is questionable. It is the only skin that is even remotely related to the University of Central Florida so it is definietly not a rip.

Thanks
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Hi, on behalf of the skin review team, (who BTW do not work for AOL but are volunteers from all over the world) the word we got about College sports skins was not to publish them any more. This is because corporate sponsorship is worth a lot these days and is more important than winamp skins.
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I seem to have had the same problem as many others, I submitted my skin, and after waiting for it to be approved, it was removed hours later (except mine said it had objectional content which it didnt have, it was a university skin). Is it just me or is Mike the llama going through a rejection phase Can you please fix this so i can get my skin published. Thank you. I attached my skin for those who wants to see what "objectional content" is.
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Do you people not read? This post is in this thread believe it or not. College sports skins, and most college skins portraying college logos cannot be published any longer. No, it hasn't been announced to the public, (something which irks me greatly) yes the category still exist, (I guess now primarily for foreign leagues) and yes, I'm sorry for all the time you guys took making the skins - believe me I know how long it takes. We don't like it, Nullsoft doesn't like it, but that's the way it is.

Try http://deviantart.com or http://1001winampskins.com
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Old 18th November 2001, 23:30   #38
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First of all I am sorry if this is a wrong place to post a reply about my skin.

Now to defend myself for why I posted a rip skin:
I have contacted Reverick, the maker of the first skin, and sent him the dupe, the one I changed using his frames and details. I have changed a few things and Reverick liked it and gave me permission to post it. So I think I have the right to post it as I have permission to do so. Also I am going to update again, and add new cursors to it.
Also I have added a readme file, explaining all of these, to the zip file.

In case you son't know which skin I am talking about -> it is the Sokarius skin v1.1 (I am going to update it soon)
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<< Revrick | GaretJax Agrees he does have permission guys.
FOLLOW UP
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I asked him (garrett) since I denied the first one because I couldn't verify permission. I'd forgotten that he said he didn't care if anyone used his skins.
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Thanx again Revrick
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Old 18th November 2001, 23:33   #39
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(mike the llama wrote me to qualm here)

and he also told me this aöskldjfalödfj(censored):

17.9.:
>Your component 'bpmscanv07' is now unpublished.
>
>We experienced problems during installation. This needs to be >resolved.
well, i couldn't find any. installation works like hell.
posting right here and askin whats up. somebody told me not to care but republish.
-> republished.

26.9.:
>Your component 'bpmscanv07' is now unpublished.
>
>We experienced problems during installation. This needs to be >resolved.
it still worked pretty damn good.
-> republished.

20.10.:
>Your component 'bpmscanv07' is now unpublished.
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>We have received a missing or bad screenshot. Please resubmit your >component.
hmpf. screenshot lots better than most others. played arround with it to get the perfect screenshot fitting perfectly into the squeezed image-space.
-> republished.

29.10.:
>Your component 'bpmscanv07' is now unpublished.
>
>We experienced problems during installation. This needs to be >resolved.
i can't stand it any more. i'm so unpatient and can't get this shit published. what's the problem. it works. i'll jump outa the window right now. c y later.

...

fortunately i live on ground floor. can you tell me what to do?

thanx,
phel!x



p.s. my plugin writes some stuff to the registry. could this be the problem?

p.p.s. i also have an avs-preset unpublished for like two month. arrgh.

p.p.p.s it's just so demoralizing to be slowed down like this. it kills all the rest of the coder in me.

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Well, apparently, your plugin's installer doesn't install it correctly. Maybe try it on a friend's computer and see if it works right.
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installation works perfectly, also on several friends' computers
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What does the plugin do? What's the component ID number?
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its yet another beats per minute scanner. works better than the others though, imo. i have quite some more features in mind, but i am waiting to get this beta published first.
its called bpmscanv07 (bpmscan_v07.exe)

the component id is 79340.

(you can also download it from http://freaknoise.com/bpmscan/)

thanks for your help.

bye,
felix
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I haven't been to the forum for a while. I even haven't been on the site for a while. Suddenly I see that ALL OF MY SKINS have been deleted...... That's unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here's the latest word from Steve G at Nullsoft:

- Authors who abuse the review system will not be tolerated, if you see anyone doing it to their skins, delete the skin.

Have a nice day.


If anybody else is thinking about uprating their skins with multiple user ID's, your skins will be deleted without a second thought as soon as it is spotted.

Zero ratings is , one rating is , more than one is .
FOLLW UP WHINE HERE
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I've just been quiet, because I have better things to do then quarrel with you guys. I went to see "Das Experiment" (great movie) with my girlfriend, and went to a bar afterwards........


And if you would delete every skin who had been multirated, you had to delete half of the database, man. You just wanna mess with me...

Anyway, I'm about to upload my skins again. I expect a fair rating. I won't multirate any more, I've learned my lesson. Please stop herassing me, OK????
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Fair enough - upload your skins again, and they'll get reviewed again when they appear in the review list - don't expect them to be reviewed any sooner. Nobody has been harassing you at all - the rules are there, you broke them, and action was taken. If you don't uprate your own skins, then you'll soon see that they'll be left in the database.
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Hey man, the rules were made after they were broken. This used to be a land of choas, in the beginning of the user-ratings....
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It was originally based on the "honor system." Problem with the honor system is, it only works for people who have honor.
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The honor system also means leaving other people's skins alone, and rating them fairly. My skins have been flamed from the very beginning. What I did was a simple reaction to that....
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John, you have been warned several times. Also, it was you who started this uprating madness. This ugly flame war started when others were upset by your behavior and reacted with downgrading actions.

Now be a good boy and think of it. When you have learned your lession as you said, there is no more argument left, welcome to the skinning community, case closed, everything forgotten - ok ???
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It really was the other way around. I DID NOT START ANYTHING, OK!!! There were other people uprating and downrating skins, before I even knew that was possible.

Other people started messing with me, and that's the only reason I got to uprate my skins. I know you don't believe me, but it really is that way.......
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