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[ElChevelle]

Teen saved after online suicide bid

From the link
The incident began Monday night with postings by "Vegas (Cats)", the teen's "handle", or screen name on a gaming discussion board for the fantasy world game Ultima that involves online role-playing gamers.

"I have said all my goodbyes...the only thing I am sorry for is the person that has to walk in and see me....cold....and dead. 16 pills down the drain...."

".... miss ya guys," he wrote.

The posting sparked a flurry of replies, similar to a crowd gathering underneath a suicidal jumper, with responses ranging from sympathy to encouragement to the Internet cries of "Jump."

"There really is no point man, no point at all," wrote one online participant., "Whatever problems you have, like all others, are only temporary."

Another wrote: "Kill yourself in the forest so you decompose. Really the way to go."

Another posting consisted merely of a smiley face graphic waving goodbye.

Bound to happen more and more on the net. If you're considering this on these forums, do me a favor. PM me your address so I can come there and do the job myself

[rm']

Yahoo had the EXACT same report 1.5 days earlier. What does that tell you?

[binary hero]

it tells us that yahoo pay more attention to suicide attempts.

according th the samaritans training booklets, anyone who says that they want to kill themselves (or says how they are going to) doesn't really want to, they just want to 'go away' for a bit, and probably won't go through with the threat.

[fwgx]

So it's the people who don't say they want to kill themselves that really do want to?

[binary hero]

sort of...yes. More of the people who say they don't want to be around more (but don't say they want to die).

the whole booklet (about 100 pages) is mostly psychiatrist crap

[ElChevelle]

Capital punishment for all suicide attemptors!

[binary hero]

shouldn't that be for all suicide failures?

[ujay]

Honest Judge, I wasn't trying to kill myself.
The ropes ? Well it's just a little game I like to play.

UJ

[. - .... .- -. ....]

"I have said all my goodbyes..."

".... miss ya guys,"

The posting sparked a flurry of replies, ...with responses ranging from sympathy to encouragement"

"There really is no point man, no point at all," wrote one online participant., "Whatever problems you have, like all others, are only temporary."

Another posting consisted merely of a smiley face graphic waving goodbye.

Sounds very familiar doesn't it? "I'm not going to be posting on here much longer".... "the forums have gone downhill".....etc, etc, etc....

So someone has found yet another way of getting attention, only this time they have taken the 'leaving the forums' approach to the next level, i.e. 'leaving the planet' . IMHO, if you are intent on doing something right, you won't put yourself in the position where there will be people around you to prevent you from doing so. It's a cry for attention, nothing more. Maybe its the cynic in me, but I'd be one of the group egging the guy on.

[zootm]

Originally posted by ethan_h
So someone has found yet another way of getting attention, only this time they have taken the 'leaving the forums' approach to the next level, i.e. 'leaving the planet' . IMHO, if you are intent on doing something right, you won't put yourself in the position where there will be people around you to prevent you from doing so. It's a cry for attention, nothing more. Maybe its the cynic in me, but I'd be one of the group egging the guy on.

it's the cynic in you.

but even so, some people don't get any attention until they do things like this. it's hard to decide whether its more sad that they were neglected for so long, or that they'll finally be rewarded for doing the thing that, of all the things in their life, is probably the least amiable.

[Aquila Blue]

I wish that people wouldn't pronounce that they are going to commit suicide online. It often makes gullible people like me believe them and try to talk them out of it, often when they are just saying that for kicks. I've had it happen to me before and it's damned annoying. Unless I know the person reasonably well, I think being a tad cynical is an okay reaction.

[rm']

"Goodbye, cruel world!"

[liquidmotion]

Originally posted by rm'
Yahoo had the EXACT same report 1.5 days earlier. What does that tell you?

black jesus must work there.

[james]

Originally posted by rm'

"Goodbye, cruel world!"

nooo! poor kitty!
QUICK! Where's teh Neko to rescue it?

[dam]

Originally posted by Herbster
nooo! poor kitty!
QUICK! Where's teh Neko to rescue it?

What? The drowning kitty isnt teh nek0h?

[J. Burnaway]

If I were that guy, I wouldn't feel sorry for the person who found my cold dead body, I'd feel sorry for the person who found my cold dead crap-stained body, since that's what happens after you off yourself with pills.

[Trigear]

Originally posted by Aquila Blue
I wish that people wouldn't pronounce that they are going to commit suicide online. It often makes gullible people like me believe them and try to talk them out of it, often when they are just saying that for kicks. I've had it happen to me before and it's damned annoying. Unless I know the person reasonably well, I think being a tad cynical is an okay reaction.

aquila, i thought i was the only one! welcome compadre.

[eleet-2k2]

Originally posted by binary hero
it tells us that yahoo pay more attention to suicide attempts.

according th the samaritans training booklets, anyone who says that they want to kill themselves (or says how they are going to) doesn't really want to, they just want to 'go away' for a bit, and probably won't go through with the threat.

I was gonna post something similar.

Honestly, if someone is truly suicidal and will really end their life, what are they going to care that they have a forum membership? This was obviously fake and this person just wants attention for some problems that are most likely no where near the level of trauma or emotion that might cause a normal person to commit suicide.

[Widdykats]

RM , you bad ol man posting that poor little widdy like that..Shame, shame.. My poor little nephmew !! Ok, as for suicide "attempts" 1. Anyone, and that is anyone, talking about it should be taken seriously,if they have a very involved plan that's worse and as mentioned in another thread if you want attention just paint yourself blue and run around screaming I'm an ocean, I'm an ocean! Since I'm a lefty I go with intervention if the person is nutsey kookoo {medical term}, If you're old and in pain or are dying from something horrible maybe your own way out is better. And if you are in your right mind and mature, whatever that means, your decision. A child of sixteen or seventeen should be able to have the chance to see a better day. 2. Stat wise "Announcement "of plans doesn't mean person isn't going to give it the old college try. Check out stats of APA or Jama on related...less successful, but still a few "winners".

[Some1]

Capital punishment for all suicide attemptors!

capital punishment for all the "good samaritans" who feel that it is their job to prevent suicides! If a person wants to kill themselves then let them, unless they are stoned/drunk/wasted at the time they decide to kill themselves.

[Widdykats]

Youngsters should not be allowed to kill themselves. That would be a disgrace. And children as young as eight have tried. Get them to a safe environment. And for the cynics, well, wait till the fish gets bigger.

[cyana]

Originally posted by Some1


capital punishment for all the "good samaritans" who feel that it is their job to prevent suicides! If a person wants to kill themselves then let them, unless they are stoned/drunk/wasted at the time they decide to kill themselves.

hmm.
so when your mom would commit suicide in front of you, you would not try to stop her ?

[Some1]

If that were what she truly wanted to do with her life, then no, I wouldn't try to stop her. She has every right to end her life if she sees it fit to do so, and I have no business intervening, regardless of how much I may care.

[rm']

People make bad decisions, so I'm happy to have friends who care about me. That's really all that I to say.

[zootm]

similar net-related tomfoolery

now, this isn't the internet at fault... the guy was clearly nuts. but will the media get all worked up, and start to blame the internet for things like this?

[eleet-2k2]

Originally posted by Some1


capital punishment for all the "good samaritans" who feel that it is their job to prevent suicides! If a person wants to kill themselves then let them, unless they are stoned/drunk/wasted at the time they decide to kill themselves.

Doesn't that, in most cases, contradict itself because in order to check if they are stoned, etc. they must be tested? So essentially you have stopped the oringinal suicide attempt.

Actually, I'm glad that people are saved from suicide because no one should be able to kill themselves, unless they wer eterminally ill and made the choice of their free will.

[rm']

Originally posted by zootm
similar net-related tomfoolery

now, this isn't the internet at fault... the guy was clearly nuts. but will the media get all worked up, and start to blame the internet for things like this?

What an outrage! We should immediately prohibit the sale of the Internet to minors

[Some1]

Doesn't that, in most cases, contradict itself because in order to check if they are stoned, etc. they must be tested? So essentially you have stopped the oringinal suicide attempt.

Nope...what I mean is that if a person looks/sounds OBVIOUSLY wasted, or if you know that they are wasted because you were hanging out with them earlier and you witnessed them consuming large amounts of drugs and/or alcohol BEFORE they decided to kill themselves, then you may intervene. If they decide to kill themselves, then get wasted, and then try to go through with the act, they shouldn't be stopped because they made their choice when theywere sober. I'm not saying that we should breathalize people who want to kill themselves and be all like "hm...your blood alcohol content is .06, and the maximum legal limit for killing yourself is .03. Sorry, but we're going to have to lock you up for attempting suicide under the influence...please hand over your suicide liscense," as such a practice would just be stupid. If a person is obviously wasted, then you can tell by just looking at them, and if they've just had a little then it doesn't count as grounds for intervention.

no one should be able to kill themselves, unless they wer eterminally ill and made the choice of their free will.

What a TERRIBLE philosophy...my life belongs to me and me alone, and I will do whatever I damn well please with it, including killing myself if I ever decide that that's what I want to do. And the same goes for everydoby else...their lives belong to THEM, and you have no right to tell them that they can't kill themselves if they want to just because you find the act immoral or whatever.

[raydream]

Originally posted by rm'
[B]
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/me rescues teh kittey



TEH KITTEY SI SAVED!

[Some1]

Thr anti-suicide ppl should go watch Donnie Darko (if not because it's a great movie then because it deals with suicide, in a sense)...also, it could be fun to discuss the multiple interpretations of the movie.

[Avalon]

You know, it's not that I don't mind suicide attempts and all, but if you're going to do it, then do it, if you are craving for attention then just say flat out, I'm looking for attention! GODDAMNIT I WANT ATTENTION!! HERE GIVE ME ATTENTION!... hey a good idea for a post eh?

[ElChevelle]

If I were to eat the lead candy, I'd just do it and get it over with, no fuggin around. No poor, pitiful me....I'm gonna kill myself.....look at me.....I'm so sad

Hate that shit....like the rest of us don't have shit to worry about

[InvisableMan]

'tis a high stress world to grow up in these days, i have... err.. had alot of friends who killed themselves out of depresson (ive even tried it myself a few times, but to no avail)

and, yeah. it's hard. especially for people like me who aren't socially acceptable just because we're being ourselfs.

it leads to:

lonliness
depression
anger
self-hatred
more depression
more self hatred

then eventually you just snap and stop thinking, and it all goes steeper downhill form there.

[patroclus22]

I'm on the side of people who say "if they're talking about it, they probably won't do it." I didn't go around telling people when I attempted suicide (and I didn't screw it up. Others intervened). That would've spoiled the surprise. I just did it.

And, strange as it sounds, dying really improved my life. But that's a story for another day.

[Widdykats]

Originally posted by InvisableMan
'tis a high stress world to grow up in these days, i have... err.. had alot of friends who killed themselves out of depresson (ive even tried it myself a few times, but to no avail)

and, yeah. it's hard. especially for people like me who aren't socially acceptable just because we're being ourselfs.

it leads to:

lonliness
depression
anger
self-hatred
more depression
more self hatred

then eventually you just snap and stop thinking, and it all goes steeper downhill form there.

We are all gad you are still here.
More women then men attempt suicide, more men are successful.
More people who talk about first are less successful, still again some are.
Some people will never know that feeling of seeing a great void.

[cyana]

just to assist Widdykats ... everyone might come to a point where hope and light seem to have vanished and suicide appears to be an attractive solution. When you are in danger, you will yell. When you see someone has fallen into deep water and cannot swim and is crying for help would you say hey this guy is just wanting my attention ?

[Ember69]

Originally posted by Avalon
You know, it's not that I don't mind suicide attempts and all, but if you're going to do it, then do it, if you are craving for attention then just say flat out, I'm looking for attention! GODDAMNIT I WANT ATTENTION!! HERE GIVE ME ATTENTION!... hey a good idea for a post eh?

thats true, ive dealt w/ people online that wanna be all depressed 24-7 sayin they want to die, in all reality, i stop talkin to them, no im not telling them to do it, but ive dealt w/ my own mother so i know how the thriving attention w/ the threat of suicide or thought of sickness or whatever else that the person seems to be problemed with... but yes, if your goin to do it... DO IT . its not like when i first hear them being depressed i dont try n help, i do.

[Avalon]

I'm not one to advocate to go ahead and begin on the killing spree... but dayum don't tell the world. I mean I can understand how comming close to it and telling someone you trust that you're thinking of doing it, but on the net? JESUS!! GO OUTSIDE!! I mean there's people outside... see those things that look like you with the two legs and arms, and heads... they are people, why not try talking to people.