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Old 26th February 2003, 15:39   #1
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Hi everybody!

I'm here working diligently on my first skin release. I've come a long way on it (especially thanks to Frisbeemonkey), but I've run into some issues.

To help you know what I'm talking about I attached a screenshot of my skin. Sorry about the poor quality but my screen cap program isn't that great.

click me or prepare for DOOM!

1: all four corners on every one of my standard frame windows has these little dots. I've been over and over the xml trying to figure out where they came from, but as far as I can tell aphids at through my skin.

2: I don't like having all those default buttons and scrollbars and text colors in the preferences menu. I think they clash with my skin and I've seen other skins implement their own doo-dads in there, but I can't figure out how.

3: I'd like to color adjust the windows so they change with the color themes.

4: the status bar and other default stuff on playlist, etc... it looks okay, but again, I'd like to change it a bit, is this possible?

Last, any comments, criticisms, death threats are welcomed. I may or may not take your advice as I'm designing this skin purely for my own enjoyment, but I'd like to hear what you fabulous people have to say about my hard and pathetic work anyway.

Also I have plans in development for a thinger and equalizer. They're just in the very early stages.

anyway that's enough for now.

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Old 26th February 2003, 15:53   #2
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i'm sitting in front of your home right now with a hatchet...

let's see.

1. The aphid marks. Are you using sysregion="-2"? If so, check the region files again, the white dots might be tiny areas you forgot to erase in in the file.

2. Window colors. You can change the bg in the prefs window, and the area under the sliderbar, but the treelist (leftmost arrow), will still keep the black bg. same thing for the main and sidecar in the Pledit.

3. Don't think you can edit the default menu, but an idea would be to create a custom menu and then override the main's rightclick. It'd be a pain in the butt, but I'm pretty sure you could imitate most of the functions. PM me for more info.

4. I don't know about the status bar. /guessing you can change it somewhere. Ask frisbee. Good luck. The four-edges approach is really cool.

It's really refreshing to see something original on here.
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Old 26th February 2003, 16:21   #3
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Uuh... no offense Jimmy, but I think you made most of that up!

1. Those dots look like they have to be a part of the graphics, it's placement is too consistent to be spastic XML, unless maybe you are using XML from another skin which had those dots. Double check your graphics, then double check the standard frame XML.

2, 4. Look for the window-elements.png and menu.png files in a skin. By editing these file you can change the scrollbars, buttons, treeview and all kinds of stuff. The element definitions for these graphics are usually in a file name system-elements.xml. No need to recreate the right-click menu as Jimmy suggested, just redraw the elements that make the window in menu.png. To further change colors of different backgrounds and elements, check out system-colors.xml.

3. Gammagroups let you change the color of your skin. Look at how they work in an existsing skin or do a search or two in the forums. I have a tool (RGB-HSL-Gamma Worker) in my signature to help you generate the code for gammagroups.

All of the files and graphics I mentioned are in the default skin in case you have difficulty finding them.

Good luck!
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Old 26th February 2003, 16:35   #4
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Not making anything up. Maybe phrased it confusing... The dots, as you said, look like they're from using a black file to create the corners on the standardframe by giving it the tag of sysregion="-2". Standard masking, or regions, or whatever u'd like to call it.

As far as 2 & 3, i misunderstood the question. Well, kind of. I thought Q3 was asking how to edit the default rightclick menu as opposed to changing it's color. My bad. At least I didn't guess on 4, eh?
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Old 26th February 2003, 19:31   #5
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Looking good, darko.
Just an additional tip to help you track down the source of those dots. Hold CTRL+SHIFT, then Right-Click on one. It should give you the id of the layer showing. That'll give you a big lead as to where it is coming from.
Glad to see you got the frames working
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Old 1st March 2003, 03:17   #6
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Okay. So I think I've gotten far enough to start asking people to test functionality and what not.

[edit] see my next post for the link [/edit]

I'd like people to check it out and tell me what they think of it, be honest. I can take it... I'm a man... or something.

Also, if you want to, maybe make some color themes? I want to have a good amount of themes on here, and have trouble coming up with ones that don't just specifically match my own desktops.

And super thanks to frisbee, jimmy smith, and RPC with their suggestions on how to fix my issues

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Old 1st March 2003, 03:52   #7
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i get a "skin not supported by winamp3"...and im pretty sure its not my fault
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Old 1st March 2003, 04:23   #8
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oops... that's a pretty stupid mistake. I had my skin folder inside another folder. It will work now. Thanks for letting me know

It can now be found here
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Old 1st March 2003, 04:32   #9
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nice skin! on next release, make some corner modes too...thatd be groovy (or something)
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Old 1st March 2003, 04:40   #10
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look very nice
little squarish tho? but otherwise very nice. i agree with iplay a corner mode would b good to go with it. nice colours as well
keep goin at it

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Old 1st March 2003, 04:44   #11
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ipts: what do you mean corner modes? I think it fits in the corner pretty well as it is... but that's just me... any suggestion on what the corner mode could look like?

matt: yeah, I like simple shapes (circles, squares, triangles) I know freeform can do more, but I thought I'd start off with something I like.
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like a 45-45 trianle that was rotated to fit into the corner...i like shades that fit into the top-left is all
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Old 1st March 2003, 04:48   #13
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yeah
thats always best. do sumthin for urself then for othas. thats what im doin right now. works out best n e ways

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Old 1st March 2003, 04:51   #14
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ipts: okay sounds good. I'll see what I can do.
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Old 1st March 2003, 06:58   #15
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Really cool! I like the style a lot, and you've done a great job with the standard frame(guess the tut is safe for human consumption again?)
A few problems I've noticed, the EQ, Thinger, etc don't work. You need to add a slash '/' between the ".." and "default". Also, include standardframe.xml before you include those other files so that they use your standardframe.
Great work so far
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Old 1st March 2003, 07:26   #16
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frisbee: ah! great thanks. I was wondering why those didn't work. I'm planning on creating my own thinger and eq, but probably will be a while still.

and yes. it is indeed safe took me a couple times through before I got it. but that happened every time I tried something new with this coding stuff
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