Is it illegal to . . . . . .

mmitchell86 · 28th February 2003, 03:17

Is it illegal to copy games (onto cd-r) my brother & friends have and to use the copied games for my own personal use??

Michael.

PS: I have no intention to copy games for financial gain.

dlinkwit27 · 28th February 2003, 03:17

yes

anubis2003 · 28th February 2003, 03:18

Yes it is. It is considered financial gain because you didn't spend the money that could have bought those games. You can make copies of games and use the copied versions yourself, but you can't sell or let others use the other copies.

mmitchell86 · 28th February 2003, 03:19

fcuk me, that was quick.

Are you guys interested in buying illegal copies?

just kidding ya

Michael

dlinkwit27 · 28th February 2003, 03:24

i got ya in the same min even! go me!

m0e · 28th February 2003, 04:20

It is legal to make copies of copywrited material for backups in case something happens to the original. But if you no longer own the original you must destroy all copies that you have made. Now try to explain those laws (and I know about the precedents and legal decisions that created those laws) so it would make sense.

SNYder · 28th February 2003, 04:41

i have no morals

Galtran · 28th February 2003, 04:53

lol! maybe I'm wanted by FBI! lol I have like... 40 copyed games... :P (but today with all that cd/dvd recorders... is impossible control that little problem)

dirkdeftly · 28th February 2003, 05:10

actually, it can't really be enforced because you weren't infringing any copyright laws, as i understand it

liquidmotion · 28th February 2003, 05:13

you understand NOTHING!

hgnis · 28th February 2003, 06:41

I take the 5th.

binary hero · 28th February 2003, 07:41

the police can smell a cd-burner operating for illegal puproses at 200meters. they also have cd-sniffer dogs - beware THEY WILL CATCH YOU.

EnDurA · 28th February 2003, 08:17

ha, so thats what those dogs were outside my house

ryan · 28th February 2003, 09:12

Yeah there was a bust in my neighborhood.. Luckily I have 3' 1/2 floppy scent on my burner

Vie · 28th February 2003, 09:20

I just give the dogs a few sausages and they tell you when there planning the next raid.

EnDurA · 28th February 2003, 09:24

hmm when i did that i lost a few fingers, guess i should wash my hands after burning

Vie · 28th February 2003, 09:28

Wight spirits will get rid of that "just burnt" smell.

caserock90 · 28th February 2003, 13:02

I sell them non profit organiztions, like my looser buds @ werk.
just kidding, i give them away.

!!crap, whos at the door!!!

Obedo · 28th February 2003, 13:20

What I don't understand is if they don't want us to copy these things why do they provide us with the technology to do so? It's like giving a 12 year old boy a dirty book and then telling him not to bet-off.

fwgx · 28th February 2003, 13:43

So you can't think of any legitimate reason to hold large ammounts of data on removable storage?

Oh dear oh dear oh dear......

Obedo · 28th February 2003, 13:51

Thats what Zip Disks are for...or if you wish to carry a copy of you harddrive use a Jazz disk, Why do we need a burner if not to copy copyrighted data...makes no sence.

m0e · 28th February 2003, 14:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Obedo
Thats what Zip Disks are for...or if you wish to carry a copy of you harddrive use a Jazz disk, Why do we need a burner if not to copy copyrighted data...makes no sence.

Every where you go to use a computer it has a zip drive or jaz drive? I burn my .docs, patches, upgrades to to cd because cdrom's are everywhere.

caserock90 · 28th February 2003, 14:14

yea, zip drives are old school. like the floppy

fwgx · 28th February 2003, 15:37

CD's a lot cheaper too!

Heck core dumps can be gigs in size as can home movies! Large removable media is a must these days!

Merlin · 28th February 2003, 17:21

According to the EULA of practically any software, you can be prosecuted for copying it, whatever your intentions were.

m0e · 28th February 2003, 18:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Merlin
According to the EULA of practically any software, you can be prosecuted for copying it, whatever your intentions were.

The precedent set by a few different court decisions overrides that. But that doesn't mean it won't be in the courts again if some [read as=conniving a**hole]clever lawyer[/read as] comes up with a new argument that the courts decide is valid enough to hear.

InvisableMan · 28th February 2003, 18:30

Quote:

Originally posted by m0e
The precedent set by a few different court decisions overrides that. But that doesn't mean it won't be in the courts again if some [read as=conniving a**hole]clever lawyer[/read as] comes up with a new argument that the courts decide is valid enough to hear.

if i'm holding coffee between my legs that i bought at mcdonalds while driving and it spills so i decide to sue mcdonalds apparently is a valid argument, and thats even more outlandish than this.

EnDurA · 1st March 2003, 01:44

i could sue you for avatar if i wanted to, thats a valid law suit

Curlirober · 1st March 2003, 14:52

whot the nice police man doesn't know wont hurt him(or u!!)

eleet-2k2 · 1st March 2003, 16:16

If you own the game and only burn a copy of it onto CD as a backup, then it is not illegal. Otherwise, it is.

Picaune · 1st March 2003, 16:55

You can transfer your right to play the game to someone else provided you deinstall the game beforehand. That means if you go over to a friends house, you can give them that game provided you deinstall it on your computer beforehand and install it when you get home. Then it's his fault because he didn't destroy the game when he handed you the disk.

EnDurA · 3rd March 2003, 05:28

well, its not having having the game installed, its the licence agreement that goes with it, thus shareware is only active for say 30 days, or is only a snipit of the game/program. freeware on the otherhand (like what you are using right now) has a free licence agreement, but you can't say winamp is yours and make money out of it.
so if you asked to nice game devolpers if your friend could buy another copy of the licence agreement, then, it would be legal to do so.

btw, i may no all this, doesn't mean i follow it. My multimedia teacher hates me because i own pirated version of every program that we use.

btww, if there are any cops/sniches/people who report these things to people to come and hurt me, you didn't read that.

28th February 2003, 03:17	#1
mmitchell86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 213	Is it illegal to . . . . . . Is it illegal to copy games (onto cd-r) my brother & friends have and to use the copied games for my own personal use?? Michael. PS: I have no intention to copy games for financial gain.

28th February 2003, 03:17	#2
dlinkwit27 has no CT (Forum King) Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,232	yes ::Deviant Me::Last.fm::WhatPulse Stats::Folding @ Home

28th February 2003, 03:18	#3
anubis2003 Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: middle of somewhere Posts: 5,564	Yes it is. It is considered financial gain because you didn't spend the money that could have bought those games. You can make copies of games and use the copied versions yourself, but you can't sell or let others use the other copies. [Over The Monkey] \| [My DeviantArt] \| [Se ti] \| [Atmo Digital Design Forums]

28th February 2003, 03:24	#5
dlinkwit27 has no CT (Forum King) Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 13,232	i got ya in the same min even! go me! ::Deviant Me::Last.fm::WhatPulse Stats::Folding @ Home

28th February 2003, 04:20	#6
m0e This Space For Rent (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The great north wasteland of the States Posts: 1,456	It is legal to make copies of copywrited material for backups in case something happens to the original. But if you no longer own the original you must destroy all copies that you have made. Now try to explain those laws (and I know about the precedents and legal decisions that created those laws) so it would make sense. KEXP

28th February 2003, 03:19	#4
mmitchell86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 213	fcuk me, that was quick. Are you guys interested in buying illegal copies? just kidding ya Michael

28th February 2003, 04:41	#7
SNYder Forum King Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,432	i have no morals

28th February 2003, 04:53	#8
Galtran Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: A wet succubus land... Posts: 124	lol! maybe I'm wanted by FBI! lol I have like... 40 copyed games... :P (but today with all that cd/dvd recorders... is impossible control that little problem)

28th February 2003, 05:10	#9
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	actually, it can't really be enforced because you weren't infringing any copyright laws, as i understand it "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

28th February 2003, 05:13	#10
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	you understand NOTHING! For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

28th February 2003, 06:41	#11
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,098	I take the 5th. I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

28th February 2003, 07:41	#12
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	the police can smell a cd-burner operating for illegal puproses at 200meters. they also have cd-sniffer dogs - beware THEY WILL CATCH YOU.

28th February 2003, 08:17	#13
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	ha, so thats what those dogs were outside my house

28th February 2003, 09:12	#14
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tn Posts: 8,755	Yeah there was a bust in my neighborhood.. Luckily I have 3' 1/2 floppy scent on my burner

28th February 2003, 09:20	#15
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 7,960	I just give the dogs a few sausages and they tell you when there planning the next raid. Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award Vie's Scratching Post

28th February 2003, 09:24	#16
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	hmm when i did that i lost a few fingers, guess i should wash my hands after burning

28th February 2003, 09:28	#17
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 7,960	Wight spirits will get rid of that "just burnt" smell. Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award Vie's Scratching Post

28th February 2003, 13:02	#18
caserock90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Telecom heaven Posts: 227	oops I sell them non profit organiztions, like my looser buds @ werk. just kidding, i give them away. !!crap, whos at the door!!!

28th February 2003, 13:20	#19
Obedo Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: State Hospital;They have me in this straightjacket & I have one hell of an itch...could you?.. Posts: 1,931	What I don't understand is if they don't want us to copy these things why do they provide us with the technology to do so? It's like giving a 12 year old boy a dirty book and then telling him not to bet-off.

28th February 2003, 13:43	#20
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,315	So you can't think of any legitimate reason to hold large ammounts of data on removable storage? Oh dear oh dear oh dear...... .: fwgx.co.uk.:.My art:. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

28th February 2003, 13:51	#21
Obedo Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: State Hospital;They have me in this straightjacket & I have one hell of an itch...could you?.. Posts: 1,931	Thats what Zip Disks are for...or if you wish to carry a copy of you harddrive use a Jazz disk, Why do we need a burner if not to copy copyrighted data...makes no sence.

28th February 2003, 14:14	#23
caserock90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Telecom heaven Posts: 227	yea, zip drives are old school. like the floppy

28th February 2003, 15:37	#24
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,315	CD's a *lot* cheaper too! Heck core dumps can be gigs in size as can home movies! Large removable media is a must these days! .: fwgx.co.uk.:.My art:. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

28th February 2003, 17:21	#25
Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	According to the EULA of practically any software, you can be prosecuted for copying it, whatever your intentions were. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

1st March 2003, 01:44	#28
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	i could sue you for avatar if i wanted to, thats a valid law suit

1st March 2003, 14:52	#29
Curlirober Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2	whot the nice police man doesn't know wont hurt him(or u!!)

1st March 2003, 16:16	#30
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	If you own the game and only burn a copy of it onto CD as a backup, then it is not illegal. Otherwise, it is. "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

1st March 2003, 16:55	#31
Picaune Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: A Yurt Posts: 474	You can transfer your right to play the game to someone else provided you deinstall the game beforehand. That means if you go over to a friends house, you can give them that game provided you deinstall it on your computer beforehand and install it when you get home. Then it's his fault because he didn't destroy the game when he handed you the disk.

3rd March 2003, 05:28	#32
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	well, its not having having the game installed, its the licence agreement that goes with it, thus shareware is only active for say 30 days, or is only a snipit of the game/program. freeware on the otherhand (like what you are using right now) has a free licence agreement, but you can't say winamp is yours and make money out of it. so if you asked to nice game devolpers if your friend could buy another copy of the licence agreement, then, it would be legal to do so. btw, i may no all this, doesn't mean i follow it. My multimedia teacher hates me because i own pirated version of every program that we use. btww, if there are any cops/sniches/people who report these things to people to come and hurt me, you didn't read that.

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