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Old 6th March 2003, 03:07   #1
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The LONGEST thread ever devised

Asssuming this idea isn't locked, deleted or prohibited by those who think rollercoasters, sex, and drinking heavily aren't fun, let's play post alot of something which may interest other in our community.

I'll start by posting someone's opinions which may parellel my own:
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"Your Ancestors May Be Martian" By Michael Paine
Suppose that billions of years ago life developed on Mars. Primitive, tiny organisms that thrived deep within rocks and made a living from water and chemicals seeping through those rocks. Now imagine that a huge asteroid collided with Mars. Millions of martian rock fragments were thrown into space by the force of the impact. Tough martian organisms hitchhiked on some of this ejecta. Many pieces went into orbit around the sun and, after hundreds of thousands of years, some of these collided with the Earth. Of those rocks, a few reached the surface. Some hardy martian organisms survived the journey, colonized the Earth and eventually evolved into the huge variety of life that we know today. Just a few years ago this scenario would have been dismissed as wildly imaginative and highly improbable. Though still highly speculative, recent discoveries in several fields of science have shown that it is far from impossible -- our ancient ancestors might have been martians. Enter the nanobes

It is not every day that a scientist discovers a possible new life form. Dr. Phillipa Uwins works in the Center for Microscopy and Microanalysis at Queensland University, Australia. Last year she was asked to analyze some rock samples taken from several miles under the seabed in a drilling operation off the coast of western Australia. The temperature at this location was around 300 Fahrenheit (150 Celsius) and the pressure was an incredible 2,000 times normal atmospheric pressure at sea level.

During an electron microscope examination, Uwins found what appeared to be tiny, dormant organisms only 20 nanometers across. (A nanometer is one -billionth billionth of a meter.) She named them "nanobes." To Uwins' surprise, filaments grew when samples of the nanobes were given some food and exposed to normal temperatures and pressures. She was also surprised because the cell walls of the nanobes survived the intense radiation and vacuum of the electron microscope.

Uwins teamed up with two microbiologists to further investigate the nanobes. A range of chemical tests indicated that the tiny objects contained DNA. This finding challenged the notion that a "cell" 20 nanometers in diameter was too small to have room for this essential ingredient of life as we know it (it is also one of the arguments against the "nanofossils" in martian meteorites -- discussed below).

Here was a tough little critter that was able to survive the heat and pressure deep underground and, possibly, the vacuum and radiation of an electron microscope. The Queensland team may have found an organism that can survive a ride between the planets aboard a meteorite.

Creatures don't have to be as small as nanobes to survive space-like conditions. Several other examples of "extremophiles" (organisms that can survive very hostile conditions) have been found by other researchers in recent years, including bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
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Old 6th March 2003, 03:11   #2
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Watch out chevelle. People might label this as a 'usless thread' because your asking for their opinions on a topic.

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Old 6th March 2003, 03:23   #3
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Allow me to be more specific:

The purpose of this thread is to allow us all to throw forth opinions, ideals or suggestions which may be of interest to the rest of us. In other words, people, by nature are better expellers of thoughts rather than listeners of other's opinions. I have realized that I would rather express my thoughts than to listen to other's, hence the thread title "The LONGEST thread ever devised."

I'm not trying to invent yet another uselss thread yet trying to achieve the longest "all party involved debate table" of which we can all learn something.
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I know what your point was when making this thread. And I like the fact that you are asking for peoples opinions. I recently (today) made a post, and no not about my sig :P, asking for peoples opinions and I was flamed for 'making another usless thread'.

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Old 6th March 2003, 03:33   #5
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Being an ex-mod and one of the best, I can tell you that this in no way, is a useless thread and I am a great judge of such.
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Never said it was . I actually like threads that ask people to state their opinion.

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Old 6th March 2003, 03:34   #7
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Go for it! I'd love to hear your opinion's expressed through another
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The purpose of this thread is to allow us all to throw forth opinions, ideals or suggestions which may be of interest to the rest of us.
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I have realized that I would rather express my thoughts than to listen to other's
So which is it?
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Old 6th March 2003, 03:35   #8
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It's totally possible for earth to have been seeded by mars. But it's also possible for earth to have been seeded by some other planet... woop-d-doo.
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Old 6th March 2003, 03:40   #9
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So which is it?
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Old 6th March 2003, 03:44   #10
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Christ, you lamo's are dwelling on other's theories way too much.
It's kind of like the old Q;
If a
Chinaman eats rice all his life, how came his shit isn't white?

Express your ideals, not your negations as our politics present.
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Old 6th March 2003, 04:19   #11
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Express your rebuttals here:

If the Canadian Lynx were to go extinct, how would it affect this planet?

If the Honduran Hunchback Chirillian were to go extinct, how would it affect this planet?

If ANY non-human were to go extinct.....ANY......how would this planet be affected?

It wouldn't!

NOW....

If humans were erased from the planet, what difference would there be?

PLENTY!

The Earth would, MAYBE, eventually return to the way it should have been.
How can it be possible that one specie's eradication could contribute such a change to a whole planet?

We weren't supposed to be here in the first place.

In other words, we were "placed" here.
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Old 6th March 2003, 04:34   #12
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despite having heard many MANY convincing arguments contrary to what you are saying, i have wholeheartedly agreed with your comments for about half a decade.

if you ever watch "mission to mars", even though it's a crap movie, it expands on that idea a bit.

[addendum]

another good argument for this idea deals with darwin's evolution principles. nature is governed by certain laws. under these laws, any naturally evolved species reaches an equilibrium with its surroundings. on the other hand, artificially-introduced species tend to destroy whatever ecosystems they are introduced into. for instance, the pig and the rat, both introduced to australia by early european settlers, are currently ravaging the continent from one coast to the other. humans fit in with the latter more than the former... we're destroying this planet, therefore a logical assumption would be that we were artificially-introduced onto earth.

the only thing i can't get around is the whole primate evolution thing. it might be possible that early homanids were introduced rather than modern humans. hence the missing link.
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Old 6th March 2003, 04:43   #13
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Mission To Mars
Great segue from my idea!
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Old 6th March 2003, 04:50   #14
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Old 6th March 2003, 04:55   #15
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"Your Ancestors May Be Martian" By Michael Paine
God created life on earth in his own image. We did'nt come from space junk or apes. Also man has only been around about 5,000 years.

Here is the worlds largest thread.
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Old 6th March 2003, 06:01   #16
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Originally posted by webthing - man has only been around about 5,000 years.
True - But the Earth is almost 10 billion years old and life has been obliterated 20 times before dinosaurs. That means there was life and DNA chains that were once on or plant but now there gone. Over 20 Obliterations took place while our solar system got closer to the center of our galaxy(where there is an extreme condensed population of stars - it would be like having a sun where every plant would be in our solar system but multiplied by the billions) within a couple billion years our solar system has made it's way to where we are now.
Will our solar system eventually make its way back to the center in another couple billion years? YES!
How do I know all of this? The Discovery Channel! but the one part I for got was how the scientist found this out? They actually had a very good, and descriptive answer but I have forgotten. The host was some StarTrek guy. It was one of those specials.

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God created life on earth in his own image. We did'nt come from space junk or apes. Also man has only been around about 5,000 years.
if you're interested in looking it up, the pope released a statement several years ago finally accepting the whole ape evolution thing. according to the statement, the pope is willing to believe that the human physiology may have evolved from the ape, but that the soul was created exclusively by god.

i learned it from catholic school, so it MUST be right (they would't say that if it wasn't true)
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Old 6th March 2003, 06:44   #18
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Also man has only been around about 5,000 years.
Explain this then.

http://www.abc.net.au/message/news/stories/s791211.htm

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For the first time, scientists have reached a broad agreement that Australia's oldest human remains - Mungo Man - is 40,000 years old
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Not saying that I know what is true, but I have heard scientific debates on both the merits and the descrepencies of carbon dating. Since it is based on theory and not proven fact I can't be sure about it either way. Maybe mankind is only 5,000 to 8,000 years old, as written history says, or maybe not.
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Trigear, I like your theories, much like Dr. Spock, you and I think logically, follwoing laws of nature and asking questions with logical answers. I will only accept what makes sense and not what the bible or theories with no explaining background offer. Everything has an answer, we; humans are explorers that keep defying set limits we put on our selves. call me crazy but I beleive we were engineered by a superior humanoid race with permission from God to have souls.
Dimensions, wormholes, distant galaxies, millions and millions of planets much like our own we have not yet came accross, hold life.
It is logical and understandable to explore the universe and plant our seeds in other habitable planets.
We have begun by cloning...

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Old 6th March 2003, 16:02   #21
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well, i don't know about all that...

btw, dr. spock writes baby books. you're thinking of mr. spock from star trek

there's no real answer to the questions. there's only theory, and every theory is just as full of shit as the next theory. i choose to put some stock in the "mars" theory because, basically, it makes my outlook on life much more interesting. try walking around for a day thinking that we're all martians. i'll bet having to wait in line at the atm suddenly seems much less bothersome after that.
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Earth is about 4.6 billion years old. not 10 billion.

As for us, Lucy, one of the oldest skeletal, pre homo-erectus remains, dates back to about 3.2 million years ago.

So our likeness has been around for quite a bit longer than 5,000 years. as for humans, as Atmo pointed out, a good deal more than 40,000 years have we been here.

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well, i don't know about all that...

i'll bet having to wait in line at the atm suddenly seems much less bothersome after that.
Not to take what you said out of context, I have this to say about standing in line.

One day I was standing in line at the market, waiting to buy a couple of frozen pizza’s, a box of microwave popcorn, and a case of pop. A person three or four places ahead of me in line was paying with change, so of course the people in line were restless and grumbling about the extra time it was taking for her to pick through the pile of coins and count out the correct amount. And after she was gone the cashier was apologizing to everyone else about the wait. And I am standing in line thinking, “My grandfather never lived in a house that had running water”. Unless you count the hand pump in the kitchen. He owned a house that had running water in town, my grandmother and their kids stayed there during the winter so the kids could make it to school. But he always lived on the farm, and he never saw the need for indoor plumbing. It just wasn’t a necessity. He grew or raised almost all of the food he ever ate. Think about all the work involved with that. And this is only two generations away from me. This is a world my father lived in. Thinking about the way my grandfather lived, and the family he and my grandmother raised, I have a hard time being upset for having to stand in line an extra couple of minutes for instant food or instant cash. Or feeling sorry for any of the other people in that line.
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Old 6th March 2003, 17:41   #25
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...and a case of pop.
Why do you people call it "pop"?

Why don't you just call everything "Coke", like we do down South?

"I'd like a Coke."
"What kind?"
"Pepsi."
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Normally I call it "soda" but a lot of people say "what?" when i say that.
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when i moved from n.carolina i was like that. and when i came here to washington i though everyone was a dork for calling pepsi "pop".

"Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing....

It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...."
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when i moved from n.carolina i was like that. and when i came here to washington i though everyone was a dork for calling pepsi "pop".

Hey! Who you calling a d0rk

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i imagine the people here in washington thought i was weird with my hick accent and me always saying "dooo what?"

"Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing....

It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...."
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snyder... you finally gave us a pic of you for the pictureland!!!!

"Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing....

It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...."
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thanks..your the first to tell me that.... wanna date?

"Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing....

It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...."
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Earth is about 4.6 billion years old. not 10 billion.

As for us, Lucy, one of the oldest skeletal, pre homo-erectus remains, dates back to about 3.2 million years ago.

So our likeness has been around for quite a bit longer than 5,000 years. as for humans, as Atmo pointed out, a good deal more than 40,000 years have we been here.
Lucy wasn't a homonid (walks upright). http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner...ails_test.html
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What if carbon dating doesn't actually work? At this point we can't prove it inconclusivly.
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What if carbon dating doesn't actually work? At this point we can't prove it inconclusivly.
We can't prove the man has been around more than 150 years, either - maybe we have just implanted memories. Actually, you can't really prove anything. But carbon dating follows the data we view as true.

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Lucy wasn't a homonid (walks upright). http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner...ails_test.html
don't take this personal but i can't accept that statement as true, considering the source. if you go to forerunner.com the first words are "Greetings in the mighty, victorious name of Jesus Christ!" something tells me that site is just a little bit biased
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