Why does Winamp 3 not work as nicely as Winamp 2.81?

[oudent]

I've been using winamp for a long time, and I've always promoted it as the best. I tried winamp 3 when it came out and was very dissapointed. Recently I tried it again, and though it had improved, it was still missing all the goodness of winamp 2! It is slow, doesn't run smooth on my P4 with over 300MB RDRAM. It freezes, I don't like how the plugins are integrated, and you can't adjust performance (or at least as easily).

The only thing it has is ... I'll get back to you on that one if I ever try it again.

I still like the product, but I think your Winamp 3 is giving you a bad name to new users...and that comes from experience. I go to univerity, and that means I'm surrounded by people who have replaced stereos and CD's with MP3s and their computers...people have turned more towards Real player, Windows Media player, and other players, which I know cannot compete with Winamp 2...but seem to be eaier to use and more reliable than winamp 3.

I hate to see this happen. If you could tell me if I am doing something wrong to get this poor performace from WA3 please tell me, if not, at least try to bring WA3 up to par for your next release.

[Reaper]

Quote from Sawg's STFU.txt:

Please, before you start whining read the Winamp3 FAQ.



Why doesn't Winamp3 do XYZ like Winamp2 did?
Winamp3 is a complete re-write form Winamp2.X. Therefore all features form Winamp 2.X would need to be re-implemented in Winamp3. Due to time limitations on Nullsoft a lot of the non-critical features from Winamp 2.X were left out of the original release. These features will be returning over time. They may not be in the next release, but most, if not all, of Winamp 2.X's features are coming to Winamp3.

To the end user, what's different?
- New interface
- Media Library
- Video playback
- Fully customizable
- Free-form skins
- Cross-fading
- Alpha Transparency (Windows 2000/XP)
- etc....

Why is Winamp3 so different than Winamp 2.X?
Winamp is a complete re-write from Winamp2. The platform that Winamp2 was built on is old and out of date and no longer meets the needs of its developers. So they created an entirely new system (see Wasabi below). Now, while to the average user, Winamp3 may look just like a few GUI updates, there is a lot more than that! Winamp3's component system (known as plug-ins in Winamp2) has been completely re-worked. This makes everything in Winamp3 components running on top of Wasabi. This way Winamp3 can be stripped of unwanted features or developers can make components to add completely new or different functionality to Winamp3.

Where is all this new functionality?
Nullsoft does not have the time nor resources to fully show all the possibilities on the original release of Winamp3. Though as third party development picks up, look to see features like media organization systems, CD ripping systems, CD burning systems, encode in different formats, and so on. These can be made available to users by simple component downloads.

How come Winamp3 is missing features from Winamp 2.X?
Well, as said before, Winamp3 is a complete re-write from Winamp 2.X. Therefore not all features from Winamp 2.X can make the first release. Due to limited resources and time Nullsoft included the critical features to make Winamp3 what it is. Expect more and more feature additions in each release of Winamp3. If your favorite feature from Winamp 2.X is missing, please be patient, it is most likely in the pipeline.


AND MOST IMPORTANT?
Does anyone want to hear me cry because a free program is not no my Standards?
No. If you don't like Winamp3 stick with Winamp2. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade. Winamp 2.X is still being updated. Nobody around here really gives a rats-ass if you want to cry about Winamp3.

What if I still want to bitch and moan?
Then go here

If you don't like Winamp3, just continue using Winamp 2. Version 2.90 just came out a day ago. Although it's not on the front page, it's still available. View this thread for details.

[oudent]

I still have not heard anything useful. I realize the GUI is a lot more sophisticated, and a lot more flexible. I understand it is a complete re-write, and designed to meet programmers needs...but when the programmers are almost disgracing their products name, no matter if its free or not, then you have to stand up for your favourite audio players name

[Nunzio390]

OK. Reaper answered you in the best possible way. But you seem to need a place to rant, vent, and spew, instead of asking for legitimate Winamp3 Technical Support. So, to allow you to continue to rant and complain, I will now move this thread out of WA3TS and into the forum that we all happily provide you people for this very thing... the Bitchlist Forum in the Community Center.

If you have a legitimate concern/problem with Winamp3 and are looking for a solution, then feel free to post within this forum once again.

But this particular thread is now on its way to the appropriate Bitchlist Forum.

[Reaper]

Nunzio: You can merge this thread with the Winamp3 Bitch Thread since it has the same message.. bitching about Winamp3.

[sanosuke]

just to add...

If you don't like it, don't use it!!