server and cluster dilema

global_groove6 · 6th May 2003, 08:15

Is their any way to block your main server from being listed in the shoutcast directory but have the relays still listed? reason being is that I want to have my main server holding only 2 listeners, while my relay will be a 100 listener one. but if the 100 listener were to suddenly drop and come back online the main server would be filled already with listeners since there are only 2 spots. This would make the relay server impossible to connect back since it needs to have an open spot right? So basically I don't want any listeners connecting to my main server. Reason my main server is so small is cause the I want to use the relay server which is in Sweden as my big server (much more affordable) and I don't trust my ISP streaming that far. my pings get over 300 ms at times. I want the sweden server to relay off a server in north america.

FesterHead · 6th May 2003, 08:20

I was doing a relay serach earlier in the day and found an exact match for your question.

I don't remember the post ID nor the response and I'm too tired to dig through query results. It's there though.

kessler · 6th May 2003, 08:20

I know you can do it with SAM2 (www.spacialaudio.com) by hiding the relay from being posted, or perhaps using a different encoder, other than that Im not sure =\ sry

global_groove6 · 6th May 2003, 08:24

i do use SAM2 to broadcast, but I never heard of an option of hiding your main server and still have your relays show up. Fester are u aware of this?

global_groove6 · 6th May 2003, 08:25

wait just thought of something. What if I were to add the IP of the relay server on the reserve IP list?

bellyup4blues · 6th May 2003, 13:44

I've done that and it works. But... according to the docs, when the machine with the reserved ip reconnects, it supposedly kicks the listener that's been connected the longest. So, if you're running more than one relay, it will likely kick the other relay. That one should try and reconnect and then kick the listener (assuming both relays are have reserved ips). Just something to think about.

Jay · 6th May 2003, 14:01

easier way,

The main (Small) server:
sc_serv.ini/conf

set
PublicServer=Never

The big (public) server or any other relaying server you want publicized that is relaying that main server:
set
PublicServer=Always

FesterHead · 6th May 2003, 16:10

Thanks Jay

For reference, this is what I was looking for last night.

global_groove6 · 10th May 2003, 04:58

cool, thanks guys.

global_groove6 · 10th May 2003, 05:13

just read that post that festerhead pointed out and started to get confused. KXRM do i just need to make those 2 changes you listed?

so if in the main server:

set
PublicServer=Never

and in the relay server(s):

set
PublicServer=Never

This will cause the main server not to get listed and all my relays to get listed. In my SAM2 station details I still in list in "public listing" normally right?

rgATL · 11th May 2003, 05:10

I've never done this, but I'm guessing you need to set the relay to "Always." This will show your relay, but not your main server (right?)

rg.

arkmaster · 2nd November 2003, 01:44

Just use the RIP only function on the main server's .conf file, much easier.Then add the IP's of the relays to your RIP list through the web admin.Blamo private 1 listener main source.

6th May 2003, 08:15	#1
global_groove6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 391	server and cluster dilema Is their any way to block your main server from being listed in the shoutcast directory but have the relays still listed? reason being is that I want to have my main server holding only 2 listeners, while my relay will be a 100 listener one. but if the 100 listener were to suddenly drop and come back online the main server would be filled already with listeners since there are only 2 spots. This would make the relay server impossible to connect back since it needs to have an open spot right? So basically I don't want any listeners connecting to my main server. Reason my main server is so small is cause the I want to use the relay server which is in Sweden as my big server (much more affordable) and I don't trust my ISP streaming that far. my pings get over 300 ms at times. I want the sweden server to relay off a server in north america. PlanetSoul Network Tune-in @128kbps\|32kbps

6th May 2003, 08:24	#4
global_groove6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 391	i do use SAM2 to broadcast, but I never heard of an option of hiding your main server and still have your relays show up. Fester are u aware of this? PlanetSoul Network Tune-in @128kbps\|32kbps

6th May 2003, 08:25	#5
global_groove6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 391	wait just thought of something. What if I were to add the IP of the relay server on the reserve IP list? PlanetSoul Network Tune-in @128kbps\|32kbps

6th May 2003, 13:44	#6
bellyup4blues Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 31	I've done that and it works. But... according to the docs, when the machine with the reserved ip reconnects, it supposedly kicks the listener that's been connected the longest. So, if you're running more than one relay, it will likely kick the other relay. That one should try and reconnect and then kick the listener (assuming both relays are have reserved ips). Just something to think about. Listener Supported/Commercial Free Radio listen: 128k stream

6th May 2003, 14:01	#7
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,888	easier way, The main (Small) server: sc_serv.ini/conf set PublicServer=Never The big (public) server or any other relaying server you want publicized that is relaying that main server: set PublicServer=Always -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

6th May 2003, 08:20	#2
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,109	I was doing a relay serach earlier in the day and found an exact match for your question. I don't remember the post ID nor the response and I'm too tired to dig through query results. It's there though.

6th May 2003, 08:20	#3
kessler Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 178	I know you can do it with SAM2 (www.spacialaudio.com) by hiding the relay from being posted, or perhaps using a different encoder, other than that Im not sure =\ sry

6th May 2003, 16:10	#8
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,109	Thanks Jay For reference, this is what I was looking for last night.

10th May 2003, 04:58	#9
global_groove6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 391	cool, thanks guys. PlanetSoul Network Tune-in @128kbps\|32kbps

10th May 2003, 05:13	#10
global_groove6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 391	just read that post that festerhead pointed out and started to get confused. KXRM do i just need to make those 2 changes you listed? so if in the main server: set PublicServer=Never and in the relay server(s): set PublicServer=Never This will cause the main server not to get listed and all my relays to get listed. In my SAM2 station details I still in list in "public listing" normally right? PlanetSoul Network Tune-in @128kbps\|32kbps

11th May 2003, 05:10	#11
rgATL Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: ATL, of course. Posts: 724	I've never done this, but I'm guessing you need to set the relay to "Always." This will show your relay, but not your main server (right?) rg.

2nd November 2003, 01:44	#12
arkmaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4	How to set main server private and relay public Just use the RIP only function on the main server's .conf file, much easier.Then add the IP's of the relays to your RIP list through the web admin.Blamo private 1 listener main source.

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