Originally posted by Fickle
Argument: Doesn't an axemurderer feel what you just described? Normal in his own way. Doesn't he feel right, feel normal, even with blood on his hands? Wasn't the reason he used the axe actually an attempt to feel right?
BTW, I don't like what other people do. I don't feel normal. Ever. I don't feel right when I'm going against the grain or with it.
There is a big problem with your argument. Who here consideres axe murders normal? We don't define things we don't find normal as normal.
I would have to say that no its not the same thing. Find me a statistically significant number of axe murders who don't have some other issues, then perhaps i'll agree.
My point about the core of whats normal not changing is one of morals. There are some morals which everyone (basically, for the sake of argument, although feel free to take it up if you like) has. Namely don't go around killing people. There is nothing about humanity that inately stops us from killing each other all the time. We have that ablity. Morals do stop us. We don't classify murders as normal. That doesn't fit the mold. (as much as you might not like to consider the mold as existing at all. Broad and non constraining as it may be.) Being normal in you own way shouldn't be seen as a step into relativism. Its not. Normality isn't relative. There are limits as to what normal can be, although they are much further than the statement makes it sound. Axe murders aren't normal, by any definition, regardless of whether or not being normal was the intent in the murdering.