The Cure - Page 3

Cylob · 25th September 2003, 08:16

I haven't got "Show"

Must get it in immediately.

The same thing happened to me with Fascination Street - the live version was so much better. But I do appreciate both now. I'm eager to hear Open now.

orac · 25th September 2003, 09:03

I got Show - you can borrow it mate.. will put it in a format you can understand..

Paris was disappointing... I didn't keep it..

Cylob · 25th September 2003, 10:40

You have Show? It'd save time if I could borrow it.

Paris has it's good points, I think I found it cheap on CD. 3 for £20 type thing. Those were the days (the bad days).

Twilightseer · 25th September 2003, 10:43

Paris is good for some tracks (Figurehead, At Night, Dressing Up) but some others suck (Close to Me, Lovesong).

Show is most excellent, and I have it too (the 2cd set, not the one-cd US one

)

orac · 25th September 2003, 11:38

yeah same here 2 cd set... picked it up for £5.00 years ago..

a few dodgy tracks - but mainly great - not upto Entreat though.. but that makes Disintegration obsolete IMO

Twilightseer · 25th September 2003, 11:40

One thing I've never understood with Show : why are the last five tracks of the concert (To Wish Impossible Things/Primary/Why Can't I Be You ?/Boys Don't Cry/A Forest) did not make it to the cd ? heck, they had enough room. It's such a shame because the 12-minute version of a Forest they played was fantastic, with added lyrics.

orac · 25th September 2003, 11:58

was it released as a concert video as well?

Twilightseer · 25th September 2003, 12:01

Yes it was released in 1993 in VHS, LD and CDi.
Hopefully, it will be released on DVD.

orac · 26th September 2003, 11:42

Have you seen this Cylob.. looks interesting 3 3/4 hours worth!

The Cure Live in Berlin

Cylob · 26th September 2003, 13:31

Nice playlist, but I'm not into DVD's.

I'm holding out for the video hd.

orac · 26th September 2003, 13:40

mmm well don't hold your breath...

Cylob · 26th September 2003, 14:19

I just have great foresight. CDs are already obsolete, DVDs will follow. In 5 years time I'll own a hd containing 1,000 films in dvd quality. But we've had this discussion before.

orac · 26th September 2003, 23:54

a few questions.. for Twilightseer

1) why is the 1982 album called 'Pornography' - is it likely to offend me?

2) is the trilogy dvd good? - say compare all the live Disintegration tracks on Entreat with the ones on the trilogy dvd.. I really like Entreat - am I likely to be disappointed? Overall The dvd looks very interesting - only heard about it on this thread..

I have Bloodflowers and I like it..

ShyShy · 27th September 2003, 02:24

Quote:

Originally posted by orac
a few questions.. for Twilightseer

1) why is the 1982 album called 'Pornography' - is it likely to offend me?

I have Bloodflowers and I like it..

@first quote, not sure on the reasoning, 'seer will give you hte breakdown on that, but, no, no offensive material in it.

@second quote, dude, I see jaws dropping on that one.

Cylob · 29th September 2003, 09:01

Quote:

Originally posted by ShyShy
@second quote, dude, I see jaws dropping on that one.

*tongue lolling around the floor of my mouth*

I've only heard Bloodflowers 4 times, it's the sound of a band out of ideas. But I'll listen to it again today on the way up the hill. From memory I'm not expecting much, I think there was one half-decent track.

orac · 29th September 2003, 09:24

totally disagree - and so did most reviews.. it has at least three quarters of the album as very good tracks..

Cylob · 29th September 2003, 09:37

By this evening I'll have heard it 5 times. You can make a definitive judgement on 5 listens.....

orac · 30th September 2003, 10:54

Bloodflowers (2000) - Brief overview... haven't heard enough to instantly remember each track without the music playing in front of me..

Yeah good start... acousticy track..
1. Out of This World (Smith) - 6:43

Then a mammoth heavier track - which I really like..
2. Watching Me Fall (Smith) - 11:13

Good catchy song..
4. Maybe Someday (Smith) - 5:04

This one is superb.. "the fire is almost out"..
9. 39 (Smith) - 7:19

Good "distintigration" type track..
10. Bloodflowers (Smith) - 7:31

Be interested to see the whole of it live on this DVD I am getting..

Cylob · 30th September 2003, 11:47

I've upgraded my opinion of Bloodflowers, it ain't half bad:

1. Out of This World - A nice ethereal number, great riff going.
2. Watching me Fall - Definitely a mammoth (I prefer the term 'monolithic'). It's about 2 minutes too long if anything.
3. Where the Birds Always Sing - Nice acoustic track, probably my favourite.
4. Maybe Someday - Pop tune.....
5. Coming Up - Another load of acoustics, nice percussion as well.
6. The Last Day of Summer - Not much substance to this track - probably the but-end of the album
7. TBA
8. TBA
9. TBA
10. TBA

Why didn't I like it first time round? 1 - it's a summery album that was released in mid-winter. 2 - Wild Mood Swings had lowered expectations to zero. 3 - Other releases of the time were better. I realise it's a good album now.

orac · 30th September 2003, 12:30

cool.. don't like what I heard of pornography (production is dreadful.. reminds me of M25).. have to see what the live versions are like...

The live trilogy should of been - Distintigration, Wish & Bloodflowers, I reckon - thats the best of the Cure 1989 - 2000

Cylob · 30th September 2003, 12:47

Quote:

Originally posted by orac
The live trilogy should of been - Distintigration, Wish & Bloodflowers, I reckon - thats the best of the Cure 1989 - 2000

Well you couldn't count Wild Mood Swings, even the cover's bad. Anyway, I'm not one to dwell on the bad.

What did you mean by M25 orac???

Cylob · 30th September 2003, 14:43

I've just realised "Out of This World" is "Pictures of You" with a riff. There's a very strong resemblance.

ShyShy · 5th October 2003, 20:19

Hehe, I'm showing my brother this thread right now, and he was telling me that he just caught a commercial for Kodak with the song "Pictures of You" in the background. And Cylob, he's checking out "Out of This World" right now, says it sounds nothing like Pictures of you.

Cylob · 5th October 2003, 20:32

Bollox!!!! It is Pictures of You. My sock puppet's nodding his head in agreement. Your brother may be thrown by the My Bloody Valentine-esq riff, but a tune's a tune.

ShyShy · 5th October 2003, 23:45

I heard the similarity though, we got into quite the discussion on it, lol. Don't be surprised to see the bro pop up here in Music O'Rama.

Cylob · 6th October 2003, 05:33

We'll be nice to him.

ShyShy · 6th October 2003, 05:57

That's exactly what I'm worried about.

Your smilie has a shifty look to it.

Cylob · 6th October 2003, 06:30

How can an emoticon have a persona??? It's the medication isn't it? Tell your brother we need his valued input here at the forum. He'll be among friends, I look forward to a good debate about "Out of This World". There's nothing to lose, everything to gain!

LollipopLustKil · 6th October 2003, 20:06

I'm not about to read this entire post (a lil lazy 2day), but I love The Cure. Not to mention I just heard "Friday I'm in Love" in Spencer's Gifts the other day.

ShyShy · 6th October 2003, 21:51

Yay! Another one lured in!!!! Yipee!

Twilightseer · 7th October 2003, 08:02

WOW ! I go to Greece for 1 week, go back and this thread ha progressed. Excellent

Orac, to answer your questions

1) http://www.ping.be/cure/stories/013/frmain.htm

Explanation by Smith himself.

2) The Trilogy DVD is technically good, musically, it's sort of confusing. The band seems focused but Cooper ruins it all on the drums although he does a better job on the Bloodflowers songs. The singing itself is not that great and the Disintegration songs were clearly better on Entreat. Apparently, many fans liked the DVD (I got flak on a French Cure board for posting my opinion), let's just say I've played it once since I bought it.

orac · 7th October 2003, 08:55

thanks for link..

I got the DVD.. from what I have seen it looks and sounds great.. Cylob and myself are going to watch the Disintigration and Bloodflowers shows this week..

Whats the best way to rip this to mp3?

Twilightseer · 7th October 2003, 08:57

Quote:

Originally posted by orac
thanks for link..

I got the DVD.. from what I have seen it looks and sounds great.. Cylob and myself are going to watch the Disintigration and Bloodflowers shows this week..

Whats the best way to rip this to mp3?

Get Besweet, its gui and the Vob input plug-in here

http://dspguru.doom9.org

Rip your dvd activating the "split by chapter options". Then, unzip all the besweet stuff to a folder, fire it up, set the encoder of your choice, open the batch mode window, drag all your vobs there, click encode, done

orac · 7th October 2003, 10:08

how do i "Rip your dvd activating the "split by chapter options", please

Twilightseer · 7th October 2003, 10:10

Get DVDDecrypter to rip the DVD

www.dvddecrypter.com

Then, in the options, you should see a "file splitting" option, in the dropdown list select "by Chapters".

orac · 7th October 2003, 11:24

dunno if I have sufficient HD space... is there another program that will record it realtime? total recorder seems to screw up my sound card settings..

MakSa · 9th October 2003, 01:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Cylob
How can an emoticon have a persona??? It's the medication isn't it? Tell your brother we need his valued input here at the forum. He'll be among friends, I look forward to a good debate about "Out of This World". There's nothing to lose, everything to gain!

Hey what's up, it's Shyshy's brother

or should I say elvis has entered the forum. Yes I am a big Cure fan and other british groups that were big in the 80's.

MakSa · 9th October 2003, 02:27

My Cure days goes back to Boys don't Cry. I can recall the first time listening to the band at a school field trip in a bus. It was the perfect tape at the moment. I do agree that Kiss Me.., and Disentigration was their best. Head On the Door is there to. I always wondered what was with the constent band member change.
I would like to know more on the DVD that the Cure released. I've pretty much listened to all of the albums except some Unreleased tracks. In Orange at Paris I think that came out in the late 80's was the only time I witness the cure perform.

ShyShy · 9th October 2003, 03:31

Hey, MakSa, remind me that I need to go through your collection sometime this week. Gotta look for some stuff

Cylob · 9th October 2003, 05:48

Hello and welcome MakSa!

It's very nice to meet a fellow Cure fan.

What other British groups are you into?? I have yet to meet a forumer who's into Siouxsie, The Jesus & Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, Curve, Ride, Lush, Primal Scream, any of the C86 bands that formed in 1986 (to name a few).

ShyShy has excellent taste (we love her), I assume it's in no small part to you......

25th September 2003, 08:16	#1
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I haven't got "Show" Must get it in immediately. The same thing happened to me with Fascination Street - the live version was so much better. But I do appreciate both now. I'm eager to hear Open now. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

25th September 2003, 10:40	#3
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	You have Show? It'd save time if I could borrow it. Paris has it's good points, I think I found it cheap on CD. 3 for £20 type thing. Those were the days (the bad days). Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

26th September 2003, 13:31	#10
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Nice playlist, but I'm not into DVD's. I'm holding out for the video hd. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

26th September 2003, 14:19	#12
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I just have great foresight. CDs are already obsolete, DVDs will follow. In 5 years time I'll own a hd containing 1,000 films in dvd quality. But we've had this discussion before. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

29th September 2003, 09:37	#17
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	By this evening I'll have heard it 5 times. You can make a definitive judgement on 5 listens..... Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

25th September 2003, 09:03	#2
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	I got Show - you can borrow it mate.. will put it in a format you can understand.. Paris was disappointing... I didn't keep it..

25th September 2003, 10:43	#4
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	Paris is good for some tracks (Figurehead, At Night, Dressing Up) but some others suck (Close to Me, Lovesong). Show is most excellent, and I have it too (the 2cd set, not the one-cd US one )

25th September 2003, 11:38	#5
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	yeah same here 2 cd set... picked it up for £5.00 years ago.. a few dodgy tracks - but mainly great - not upto Entreat though.. but that makes Disintegration obsolete IMO

25th September 2003, 11:40	#6
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	One thing I've never understood with Show : why are the last five tracks of the concert (To Wish Impossible Things/Primary/Why Can't I Be You ?/Boys Don't Cry/A Forest) did not make it to the cd ? heck, they had enough room. It's such a shame because the 12-minute version of a Forest they played was fantastic, with added lyrics.

25th September 2003, 11:58	#7
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	was it released as a concert video as well?

25th September 2003, 12:01	#8
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	Yes it was released in 1993 in VHS, LD and CDi. Hopefully, it will be released on DVD.

26th September 2003, 11:42	#9
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	Have you seen this Cylob.. looks interesting 3 3/4 hours worth! The Cure Live in Berlin

26th September 2003, 13:40	#11
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	mmm well don't hold your breath...

26th September 2003, 23:54	#13
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	a few questions.. for Twilightseer 1) why is the 1982 album called 'Pornography' - is it likely to offend me? 2) is the trilogy dvd good? - say compare all the live Disintegration tracks on Entreat with the ones on the trilogy dvd.. I really like Entreat - am I likely to be disappointed? Overall The dvd looks very interesting - only heard about it on this thread.. I have Bloodflowers and I like it..

29th September 2003, 09:24	#16
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	totally disagree - and so did most reviews.. it has at least three quarters of the album as very good tracks..

30th September 2003, 10:54	#18
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	Bloodflowers (2000) - Brief overview... haven't heard enough to instantly remember each track without the music playing in front of me.. Yeah good start... acousticy track.. 1. Out of This World (Smith) - 6:43 Then a mammoth heavier track - which I really like.. 2. Watching Me Fall (Smith) - 11:13 Good catchy song.. 4. Maybe Someday (Smith) - 5:04 This one is superb.. "the fire is almost out".. 9. 39 (Smith) - 7:19 Good "distintigration" type track.. 10. Bloodflowers (Smith) - 7:31 Be interested to see the whole of it live on this DVD I am getting..

30th September 2003, 11:47	#19
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I've upgraded my opinion of Bloodflowers, it ain't half bad: 1. Out of This World - A nice ethereal number, great riff going. 2. Watching me Fall - Definitely a mammoth (I prefer the term 'monolithic'). It's about 2 minutes too long if anything. 3. Where the Birds Always Sing - Nice acoustic track, probably my favourite. 4. Maybe Someday - Pop tune..... 5. Coming Up - Another load of acoustics, nice percussion as well. 6. The Last Day of Summer - Not much substance to this track - probably the but-end of the album 7. TBA 8. TBA 9. TBA 10. TBA Why didn't I like it first time round? 1 - it's a summery album that was released in mid-winter. 2 - Wild Mood Swings had lowered expectations to zero. 3 - Other releases of the time were better. I realise it's a good album now. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

30th September 2003, 12:30	#20
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	cool.. don't like what I heard of pornography (production is dreadful.. reminds me of M25).. have to see what the live versions are like... The live trilogy should of been - Distintigration, Wish & Bloodflowers, I reckon - thats the best of the Cure 1989 - 2000

30th September 2003, 14:43	#22
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	I've just realised "Out of This World" is "Pictures of You" with a riff. There's a very strong resemblance. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

5th October 2003, 20:19	#23
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Hehe, I'm showing my brother this thread right now, and he was telling me that he just caught a commercial for Kodak with the song "Pictures of You" in the background. And Cylob, he's checking out "Out of This World" right now, says it sounds nothing like Pictures of you.

5th October 2003, 20:32	#24
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Bollox!!!! It is Pictures of You. My sock puppet's nodding his head in agreement. Your brother may be thrown by the My Bloody Valentine-esq riff, but a tune's a tune. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

5th October 2003, 23:45	#25
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	I heard the similarity though, we got into quite the discussion on it, lol. Don't be surprised to see the bro pop up here in Music O'Rama.

6th October 2003, 05:33	#26
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	We'll be nice to him. Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

6th October 2003, 05:57	#27
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	That's exactly what I'm worried about. Your smilie has a shifty look to it.

6th October 2003, 06:30	#28
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	How can an emoticon have a persona??? It's the medication isn't it? Tell your brother we need his valued input here at the forum. He'll be among friends, I look forward to a good debate about "Out of This World". There's nothing to lose, everything to gain! Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At:

6th October 2003, 20:06	#29
LollipopLustKil Insomniac (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,033	I'm not about to read this entire post (a lil lazy 2day), but I love The Cure. Not to mention I just heard "Friday I'm in Love" in Spencer's Gifts the other day. Scotty Doesn't Know

6th October 2003, 21:51	#30
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Yay! Another one lured in!!!! Yipee!

7th October 2003, 08:02	#31
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	WOW ! I go to Greece for 1 week, go back and this thread ha progressed. Excellent Orac, to answer your questions 1) http://www.ping.be/cure/stories/013/frmain.htm Explanation by Smith himself. 2) The Trilogy DVD is technically good, musically, it's sort of confusing. The band seems focused but Cooper ruins it all on the drums although he does a better job on the Bloodflowers songs. The singing itself is not that great and the Disintegration songs were clearly better on Entreat. Apparently, many fans liked the DVD (I got flak on a French Cure board for posting my opinion), let's just say I've played it once since I bought it.

7th October 2003, 08:55	#32
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	thanks for link.. I got the DVD.. from what I have seen it looks and sounds great.. Cylob and myself are going to watch the Disintigration and Bloodflowers shows this week.. Whats the best way to rip this to mp3?

7th October 2003, 10:08	#34
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	how do i "Rip your dvd activating the "split by chapter options", please

7th October 2003, 10:10	#35
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	Get DVDDecrypter to rip the DVD www.dvddecrypter.com Then, in the options, you should see a "file splitting" option, in the dropdown list select "by Chapters".

7th October 2003, 11:24	#36
orac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the past Posts: 127	dunno if I have sufficient HD space... is there another program that will record it realtime? total recorder seems to screw up my sound card settings..

9th October 2003, 02:27	#38
MakSa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oz Posts: 14	My Cure days goes back to Boys don't Cry. I can recall the first time listening to the band at a school field trip in a bus. It was the perfect tape at the moment. I do agree that Kiss Me.., and Disentigration was their best. Head On the Door is there to. I always wondered what was with the constent band member change. I would like to know more on the DVD that the Cure released. I've pretty much listened to all of the albums except some Unreleased tracks. In Orange at Paris I think that came out in the late 80's was the only time I witness the cure perform.

9th October 2003, 03:31	#39
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Hey, MakSa, remind me that I need to go through your collection sometime this week. Gotta look for some stuff

9th October 2003, 05:48	#40
Cylob Forum Music King (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Future Posts: 7,175	Hello and welcome MakSa! It's very nice to meet a fellow Cure fan. What other British groups are you into?? I have yet to meet a forumer who's into Siouxsie, The Jesus & Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, Curve, Ride, Lush, Primal Scream, any of the C86 bands that formed in 1986 (to name a few). ShyShy has excellent taste (we love her), I assume it's in no small part to you...... Secret Snacker & Accomplished Pen Thief At: