Net Send is a real solution?

kibrit · 6th July 2003, 17:52

Anyone: Is there any tip about how to send a message to a listener connected to your SC stream? I sometimes use Net Send to ask listeners that stay for 10 hours connected on my stream, what are they enjoying the most on my selection. Anyways, Net Send sometimes simply cannot send the message.... I searched for an application that could maybe send email directly to IP, but I am sure my chances are maybe zero.
BTW I am not thinking in go to Unix or Linux at this time...

I will appreciate your remarks.

dirtysouthradio · 8th July 2003, 08:11

what is net send is that that pop up bullshit that i be geting when im gone for hours use to be bullshit ims now its thses damm ip sends

drzoid · 8th July 2003, 14:37

"net send" only works for Windows machines and even there only if the messenger service is running (something needs to receive your message). If someone does not have anything like that running you simply cannot reach him.

DJHotIce · 8th July 2003, 16:01

Quote:

I sometimes use Net Send to ask listeners that stay for 10 hours connected on my stream?

I don't think anyone would have a interst in listening to ANYBODY's stream for 10 hours, I've had 5 hours. But I don't think its right to...

1. Spam the listener with Net Send
2. Make the listener uncomfortable by sending a net set message
3. Telling em to listen for 10 hours

Yet thats just my opinion

drzoid · 8th July 2003, 17:27

Quote:

Originally posted by DJHotIce
I don't think anyone would have a interst in listening to ANYBODY's stream for 10 hours, I've had 5 hours. But I don't think its right to...

1. Spam the listener with Net Send
2. Make the listener uncomfortable by sending a net set message
3. Telling em to listen for 10 hours

Yet thats just my opinion

I dont see the problem. kibrit just asks for some feedback from his longterm listeners.

DJHotIce · 8th July 2003, 18:40

ah I see.

global_groove6 · 8th July 2003, 21:25

I've got people connected for over 45 hours. I think sometimes the IP will stick even though they are not listening. But I've had some listeners tell me they have it on for over 24 hours. prolly a bunch of drunk college kids sleeping hehe. dont bother me. listen all you want as long as the servers arent full.

DJHotIce · 8th July 2003, 21:28

Quote:

Originally posted by global_groove6
I've got people connected for over 45 hours. I think sometimes the IP will stick even though they are not listening. But I've had some listeners tell me they have it on for over 24 hours. prolly a bunch of drunk college kids sleeping hehe. dont bother me. listen all you want as long as the servers arent full.

Lol

kibrit · 8th July 2003, 21:58

DrZoid got the right pic.
But at least I know now: there is nothing to do till someone give us a built in communicator in SC.
Is that a good idea?

DJHotIce · 8th July 2003, 22:03

For those who remember the shoutcast wishlist forums, I recomended that, however it didn't ever make it.

kibrit · 8th July 2003, 22:15

So lets plug and pray.

Thanks to all of you for your oppinion.

DJHotIce · 8th July 2003, 22:19

indeed

drzoid · 9th July 2003, 23:09

Quote:

Originally posted by global_groove6
I've got people connected for over 45 hours. I think sometimes the IP will stick even though they are not listening. But I've had some listeners tell me they have it on for over 24 hours.

Well, as long as the Shoutcast server does not have a bug which shows a listener although he already disconnected, there have to be an actual connection.

Quote:

prolly a bunch of drunk college kids sleeping hehe. dont bother me. listen all you want as long as the servers arent full.

I prefer when my listeners actually listen

. Otherwise its a waste of precious bandwidth

.

drzoid · 9th July 2003, 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by kibrit
DrZoid got the right pic.
But at least I know now: there is nothing to do till someone give us a built in communicator in SC.
Is that a good idea?

It would be possible with a Winamp plugin. However this would need to be installed by default as you otherwise have the same situation and I am not sure whether many users would be happy with that (although it would be just a small plugin waiting for text messages). Anyway, the easiest solution is probably to broadcast from time to time your own messages (just like radio stations) asking your listeners to give you feedback.

DJHotIce · 9th July 2003, 23:18

Well. In my words, I'm not paying for the bandwith. So go on listen to my station

And you can get drunk, not even listen to my station. heck you can even put my station on mute. If you don't have winamp open. Just go ahead and listen to my station

Help me make it into the shoutcast stats

that makes some pupose, not wasting any of my bandwith. I have to stream at 128 24/7

drzoid · 9th July 2003, 23:25

Those are 1,3 GB per day per user (even the upstream if you are not streaming locally). Which magic line did you get providing such traffic

?

kibrit · 10th July 2003, 02:01

Well, seems like Dj runs a big SC server eh!.....
And believe me: that would be a magic line indeed....

Other: I have an automation program that bcasts everyhour a message to my listeners...and periodic programs....Just couldnt fix yet the sound volume of my talking clock to tell them the time....My time zone of course, in 4 different languages.

In any manner, magnifica risposta, DrZ.

In other words: lets make the world listen to what we do!

All the best.

DJHotIce · 10th July 2003, 02:04

Actually I'm on a win32 platform

I'm using SAM2 on windows 2000 pro. works like a charm

kibrit · 10th July 2003, 02:09

WOW! Same here.....

And indeed a charm....

BTW, time to sleep....bu bye.

DJHotIce · 10th July 2003, 02:11

k bye

global_groove6 · 10th July 2003, 06:51

Quote:

Originally posted by drzoid
Well, as long as the Shoutcast server does not have a bug which shows a listener although he already disconnected, there have to be an actual connection.

guess theres a bug then cause I've seen it lots of times. IP's will stick after the listener closes winamp.

Quote:

I prefer when my listeners actually listen . Otherwise its a waste of precious bandwidth .

It would be a waste of bandwidth if no one was using it. After all its already paid for.

kibrit · 10th July 2003, 22:17

I have never experienced this "sticking bug".
What I have sometimes is lots of log lines telling me the user connects/disconnects/connects/disconnects....50, 60 times.... and I dont realy know if it is something to concern.
Tell me then....

DJHotIce · 10th July 2003, 22:19

You probally enabled auto conect, click the autoconect checkbox and see if it stops

kibrit · 11th July 2003, 00:54

Thanks for the tip. I will let you know what happened.

6th July 2003, 17:52	#1
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	Net Send is a real solution? Anyone: Is there any tip about how to send a message to a listener connected to your SC stream? I sometimes use Net Send to ask listeners that stay for 10 hours connected on my stream, what are they enjoying the most on my selection. Anyways, Net Send sometimes simply cannot send the message.... I searched for an application that could maybe send email directly to IP, but I am sure my chances are maybe zero. BTW I am not thinking in go to Unix or Linux at this time... I will appreciate your remarks.

8th July 2003, 08:11	#2
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8th July 2003, 18:40	#6
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8th July 2003, 21:25	#7
global_groove6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 391	I've got people connected for over 45 hours. I think sometimes the IP will stick even though they are not listening. But I've had some listeners tell me they have it on for over 24 hours. prolly a bunch of drunk college kids sleeping hehe. dont bother me. listen all you want as long as the servers arent full. PlanetSoul Network Tune-in @128kbps\|32kbps

8th July 2003, 22:03	#10
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	For those who remember the shoutcast wishlist forums, I recomended that, however it didn't ever make it. -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

8th July 2003, 14:37	#3
drzoid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 393	"net send" only works for Windows machines and even there only if the messenger service is running (something needs to receive your message). If someone does not have anything like that running you simply cannot reach him.

8th July 2003, 21:58	#9
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	DrZoid got the right pic. But at least I know now: there is nothing to do till someone give us a built in communicator in SC. Is that a good idea?

8th July 2003, 22:15	#11
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	So lets plug and pray. Thanks to all of you for your oppinion.

8th July 2003, 22:19	#12
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	indeed -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

9th July 2003, 23:18	#15
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	Well. In my words, I'm not paying for the bandwith. So go on listen to my station And you can get drunk, not even listen to my station. heck you can even put my station on mute. If you don't have winamp open. Just go ahead and listen to my station Help me make it into the shoutcast stats that makes some pupose, not wasting any of my bandwith. I have to stream at 128 24/7 -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

9th July 2003, 23:25	#16
drzoid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 393	Those are 1,3 GB per day per user (even the upstream if you are not streaming locally). Which magic line did you get providing such traffic ?

10th July 2003, 02:01	#17
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	Well, seems like Dj runs a big SC server eh!..... And believe me: that would be a magic line indeed.... Other: I have an automation program that bcasts everyhour a message to my listeners...and periodic programs....Just couldnt fix yet the sound volume of my talking clock to tell them the time....My time zone of course, in 4 different languages. In any manner, magnifica risposta, DrZ. In other words: lets make the world listen to what we do! All the best.

10th July 2003, 02:04	#18
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	Actually I'm on a win32 platform I'm using SAM2 on windows 2000 pro. works like a charm -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

10th July 2003, 02:09	#19
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	WOW! Same here..... And indeed a charm.... BTW, time to sleep....bu bye.

10th July 2003, 02:11	#20
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	k bye -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

10th July 2003, 22:17	#22
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	I have never experienced this "sticking bug". What I have sometimes is lots of log lines telling me the user connects/disconnects/connects/disconnects....50, 60 times.... and I dont realy know if it is something to concern. Tell me then....

10th July 2003, 22:19	#23
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	You probally enabled auto conect, click the autoconect checkbox and see if it stops -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

11th July 2003, 00:54	#24
kibrit Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BR Posts: 70	Thanks for the tip. I will let you know what happened.

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