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Dj-DarKing · 9th July 2003, 21:54

ok i have two streams an 128 and an 24 kbps but how can i let the main server stream both bitrate ?

I have a windows pc so it has to go like this:

Source ---> Main server ---> 128 kbps server
.................................|
.................................---> 24 kbps server

so the main server streams to the 128 server and the 24 but how do i fix this :S

thanks already

Dj-DarKing · 10th July 2003, 20:52

nobody knows ?

radio42 · 10th July 2003, 21:27

Do not fully understand your problem!

a) What is your source?
- lets assume it is Winamp

b) What is your main server?
- lets assume it is the Winamp DSP

You can just configure two Encoders in the DSP one for 128k and one for 24k. Also configure two Streams in the DSP one using the 128k Encoder and the otherone using the 24k Encoder.
In this case you have two streams.
But note! In any case you need two Shoutcast servers, since the Soutcast server itself can only handle the listener connects but can not do any re-encoding.

So it goes:
Source -> DSP (Encoder 128k) -> Server1
Source -> DSP (Encoder 24k) -> Server2

Source and DSP are sitting on the same PC - but you need two Servers!

Bernd N.
www.radio42.com

Dj-DarKing · 10th July 2003, 21:33

the source can also be one of our dj's will it work then too ?

radio42 · 10th July 2003, 21:43

Since the Winamp DSP will take as the input source whatever is currently playing in Winamp...the answer is yes.
Normally you play sound-files (e.g. MP3s)...
But since your DJs will play live (I guess) you need a so called "line-in" Input-PlugIn for Winamp.
In that case you connect your DJs to your Soundcard (Output->PC)...
The line-in plugin will 'play' it in Winamp and the DSP will encode it....yes.

Dj-DarKing · 14th July 2003, 10:38

but how do i fix it that the dj's only have to broadcast 80kbps and the server then will re-encode it to 128 en 24 kbps ? cause i work with a windows server and not linux so how do i fix that ?

FesterHead · 14th July 2003, 16:13

Tune into the 80kbps DNAS with a Winamp/DSP combo set to broadcast to the 128kbps and 24kbps DNASs.

[edit]
Insert warning here about poor sound quality from re-sampling to a higher bitrate than the source.
[/edit]

Dj-DarKing · 14th July 2003, 16:18

define dsp/combo you mean two dsp ? running or could you explain that to me ?

FesterHead · 14th July 2003, 16:24

The DJ broadcasts the 80kbps main stream with Winamp/DSP combo (#1) to a DNAS (#1).

The resampler connects, that is listens, to DNAS (#1) with a Winamp/DSP combo (#2).

Configure the Winamp/DSP combo (#2) to output to DNAS (#2) at 128kbps and DNAS (#3).

Dj-DarKing · 14th July 2003, 16:33

can you help me set it up cause i don't get it :S where can i download that dsp combo ? cause i only can find the source dsp :S

FesterHead · 14th July 2003, 19:48

Winamp + SHOUTcast source DSP = Winamp/DSP combo.

Dj-DarKing · 14th July 2003, 20:13

ok thnxx it works now :P

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9th July 2003, 21:54	#1
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	Relaying ok i have two streams an 128 and an 24 kbps but how can i let the main server stream both bitrate ? I have a windows pc so it has to go like this: Source ---> Main server ---> 128 kbps server .................................\| .................................---> 24 kbps server so the main server streams to the 128 server and the 24 but how do i fix this :S thanks already

10th July 2003, 20:52	#2
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	nobody knows ?

10th July 2003, 21:27	#3
radio42 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 24	Do not fully understand your problem! a) What is your source? - lets assume it is Winamp b) What is your main server? - lets assume it is the Winamp DSP You can just configure two Encoders in the DSP one for 128k and one for 24k. Also configure two Streams in the DSP one using the 128k Encoder and the otherone using the 24k Encoder. In this case you have two streams. But note! In any case you need two Shoutcast servers, since the Soutcast server itself can only handle the listener connects but can not do any re-encoding. So it goes: Source -> DSP (Encoder 128k) -> Server1 Source -> DSP (Encoder 24k) -> Server2 Source and DSP are sitting on the same PC - but you need two Servers! Bernd N. www.radio42.com

10th July 2003, 21:33	#4
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	the source can also be one of our dj's will it work then too ?

10th July 2003, 21:43	#5
radio42 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 24	Since the Winamp DSP will take as the input source whatever is currently playing in Winamp...the answer is yes. Normally you play sound-files (e.g. MP3s)... But since your DJs will play live (I guess) you need a so called "line-in" Input-PlugIn for Winamp. In that case you connect your DJs to your Soundcard (Output->PC)... The line-in plugin will 'play' it in Winamp and the DSP will encode it....yes.

14th July 2003, 10:38	#6
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	but how do i fix it that the dj's only have to broadcast 80kbps and the server then will re-encode it to 128 en 24 kbps ? cause i work with a windows server and not linux so how do i fix that ?

14th July 2003, 16:13	#7
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Tune into the 80kbps DNAS with a Winamp/DSP combo set to broadcast to the 128kbps and 24kbps DNASs. [edit] Insert warning here about poor sound quality from re-sampling to a higher bitrate than the source. [/edit]

14th July 2003, 16:18	#8
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	define dsp/combo you mean two dsp ? running or could you explain that to me ?

14th July 2003, 16:24	#9
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	The DJ broadcasts the 80kbps main stream with Winamp/DSP combo (#1) to a DNAS (#1). The resampler connects, that is listens, to DNAS (#1) with a Winamp/DSP combo (#2). Configure the Winamp/DSP combo (#2) to output to DNAS (#2) at 128kbps and DNAS (#3).

14th July 2003, 16:33	#10
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	can you help me set it up cause i don't get it :S where can i download that dsp combo ? cause i only can find the source dsp :S

14th July 2003, 19:48	#11
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Winamp + SHOUTcast source DSP = Winamp/DSP combo.

14th July 2003, 20:13	#12
Dj-DarKing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 76	ok thnxx it works now :P