What do you think the world will be like in 500 years?

[th3matr1x]

SSJ4 Gogitta Said

2469: to commemorate the first moon landing in earth’s history, a replica of the Apollo 11 is built and sent blasting towards space. Billions of trillions of people across the FIPS network watch this event, as three Human people once again step foot back on the moon. The original flag is found, and next to it, a modern flag and plaque are placed next to it, as well as a disc containing history from the past 500 years.

Do you really believe on the first moonlanding?
look on the net for the real answer.
A flag and a person on earth can't have 2 shadows with one source light.

follow the link and judge by yourself (official from bbc):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/s...evidence.shtml

[Coman]

Let's just wait and see. oh, wait, we won't

[Cylob]

I will, I've a time machine in the attic (and I'm immortal anyway).

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Originally posted by th3matr1x
SSJ4 Gogitta Said

2469: to commemorate the first moon landing in earth’s history, a replica of the Apollo 11 is built and sent blasting towards space. Billions of trillions of people across the FIPS network watch this event, as three Human people once again step foot back on the moon. The original flag is found, and next to it, a modern flag and plaque are placed next to it, as well as a disc containing history from the past 500 years.

Do you really believe on the first moonlanding?
look on the net for the real answer.
A flag and a person on earth can't have 2 shadows with one source light.

follow the link and judge by yourself (official from bbc):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/s...evidence.shtml

Yes, i do belive in the moon landing. Do not shove things down my throat.

Go out a get a powerfull telescope and go see for yourself.

[EfaustuS9]

Good Point, but honey is an organically synthesized glucose molecule resulting from an enzyme, which the bee secrets breaking down the nectar of plants from its original sucrose form. This process is not of a cognitive will but rather of or an instinctual ritual, and only involves substances, which are by products of these life forms. These by products do occur naturally in nature, and works with in the confines of this system, not adversely affecting it. Nuclear Power, TNT, combustion engines, and the assortment of mans concoctions are not naturally occurring these items require a cognitive mind, and in a sense are not natural. They serve no purpose but ours, and many of the concoctions adversely affect the system in which we proliferate.

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Nuclear power does occur naturally. It's called the Sun. It's one huge nuclear reactor.

Combustion occurs naturally too. When paper (or any other object) reaches 451°F (or any other certain temp), it will combust. All man did was use the concept of combustion to use it to move mechanial parts to produce more power from it. This is done in nature as well, though not on such a massive scale.

TNT itself may not occur naturally, but explosive materials do, such as potassium and nitrogen. Remember the Hindenburg? These things packed tightly enough in a small space can produce a violent explosion.

[EfaustuS9]

yes but they have to gathered and packed into such concentrations. as for the combustion engine,I mean the machine more then combustion but besides the crude oil has to be refined into such a state that it is suitable for combustion. Finally nuclear power does exists as a component of the sun, but in a natural form and at a relatively safe distance from organic life.

[skinme!]

All that has happened is that we humans have adapted to a wide-range of environments. We are the dominant species because we have evolved to be so. Therefore we are natural and anything we create is created by a being evolved by time and nature.

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

For whatever wacky reason, this thread deserves a big-assed bump... Kind of surprised that the conversation stopped. Was searching for an older post of mine about the OQO computer (see this thread) and came across this thread. Anyways, to continue on, fission (a type of nuclear reaction) has in fact occurred naturally on Earth. Read about it here.

I wonder if th3matr1x has bothered to do any actual research on the Moon landing conspiracy and leaned the actual truth; we did in fact go to the moon. Though I was in erratum about the large telescope thing. No single telescope on earth (or in space; even the Hubble) can see any features on the moon small enough to make out any of our landing sites.

Some folks should probably visit this site: Bad Astronomy.

[mark]

Fission is easy, its fusion that'll save our asses.

[ShyShy]

Can't be arsed to read the first page again But, has anyone read the National Geographic's article on Nanotechnology? Awesome/frigthning stuff.

[k_rock923]

Originally posted by mark
Fission is easy, its fusion that'll save our asses.

It's cold fusion that'll save our asses.

[S-uper_T-oast]

It's Matter-Antimatter reactions that will save our asses.

Or hell, let's just makes some micro-black holes and steal energy from the white hole side!
<insert good science fact used in an incorrect fashion>

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

The energy from the ammount of sunlight that hits the Earth over the period of ONE DAY is enough the meet global energy demands for ONE YEAR. Solar energy will save our asses when we make much better ways to harness solar energy.

[k_rock923]

The good news is that it looks like something will save our asses.

[S-uper_T-oast]

Collecting that solar energy is quite a hassle though isn't it? Then the problem arises with the fact that some amazing things called plants would get a little annoyed that we were sucking up all the suns rays.

[mark]

Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
The energy from the ammount of sunlight that hits the Earth over the period of ONE DAY is enough the meet global energy demands for ONE YEAR. Solar energy will save our asses when we make much better ways to harness solar energy.

meaning that even if we DID manage 100% efficiency (which will NEVER happen) we'd need to cover 1/365 of the earth's surface in solar pannels.

[Vie]

Or create a polar orbital Ring of solar pannels around the entire planet, say 2 football pitches wide, transfering power down via microwaves to receving stations around the equator and other specific latitudes of the planet.

Might not meet all our power needs, but BOY would it be fun!

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Originally posted by mark
meaning that even if we DID manage 100% efficiency (which will NEVER happen) we'd need to cover 1/365 of the earth's surface in solar pannels.

yes, for a YEARS worth of power gathered in one day. However, with current technology, covering an area equal to Georga will do it on a day-to-day basis. This could be done by covering the roofs of homes with the nano-based solar paint. Though, the paint really only lasts for about two years and is expensive.

Solar energy will be the way, just give it 25 or so more years.

[shakey_snake]

In 2506:
we'll begin to understand Earth's Oceans.

About only about 25% of the species of all animals and about 15% of terrestrial plant species we have on earth today will still be alive.

We've have nearly perfected mass anti-matter creation, storage and propultion.

we'll have sent out missions into inter-steller space, but they haven't arrived anywhere yet.

We'll have colonized Mars maybe 3 or 4 times, but given up each time because it fails economically.

So much garbage will be floating in Earth's orbit that it will have to be periodically consolidated into trash heaps, who's reflections greatly brighten the night sky.
It won't be economical yet to send them out of orbit.

Geopolitics will have been united into a sigular earth-nation, but that will disolve into 5 or 6 sovereign nations.

All desert lands will be fully irrigated, and Saharan Africa and the Outback will become some of the highest valued property in the world, where the world eliet and powerful will live.

Sub-Saharan africa will be largely the same as it is today, minus AIDS and with 5 times the population.

Nazi gold will still be hiding in swiss banks.

[mark]

Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
yes, for a YEARS worth of power gathered in one day. However, with current technology, covering an area equal to Georga will do it on a day-to-day basis. This could be done by covering the roofs of homes with the nano-based solar paint. Though, the paint really only lasts for about two years and is expensive.

Solar energy will be the way, just give it 25 or so more years.

No, i said you'd need to cover 1/365 of the earth to get a day's power assuming 100% efficieny (and no cloud cover, come to think of it...)

From Wikipedia:

Solar cell energy conversion efficiencies for commercially available mc-Si solar cells are around 14-16%

So you'd really need to cover about 1/24 of the earth's surface (still assuming no clouds, and no additional power requirements by the time it actually gets built)

[Mattress]

Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
yes, for a YEARS worth of power gathered in one day. However, with current technology, covering an area equal to Georga will do it on a day-to-day basis. This could be done by covering the roofs of homes with the nano-based solar paint. Though, the paint really only lasts for about two years and is expensive.

Solar energy will be the way, just give it 25 or so more years.

Current solar panels have to be set up in series for some reason. Meaning, if one panel gets shaded none of them generate electricity. This is bad news for anyone who lives by a tree that's taller than their house.

[shakey_snake]

Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
Solar energy will be the way, just give it 25 or so more years.

Screw solar power.
A tablespoon of anti-matter has enough energy to launch 600 space shuttles into space.

[ElChevelle]

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Originally posted by Mattress
Current solar panels have to be set up in series for some reason. Meaning, if one panel gets shaded none of them generate electricity. This is bad news for anyone who lives by a tree that's taller than their house.

Note that I said "paint". I'm talking about this stuff. Note that it says "even on a cloudy day".

Originally posted by shakey_snake
Screw solar power.
A tablespoon of anti-matter has enough energy to launch 600 space shuttles into space.

Couple of problems with using antimatter:

1) At future production rates, it will take more than 2 billion years to produce a gram of antihydrogen.
2) In fact, at current production rates, it costs an equivalent of $100 million trillion dollars, and CERN would have to run for 100 billion years. Just to produce one gram.
3) IE: in 2004, it cost CERN $20 million to produce only a few picograms of antihydrogen.

In short: matter-antimatter reactors aren't gonna happen on any sort of feasible scale any time in our foreseeable future.

[Strman]

Probably something like this.

[Mattress]

Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
Note that I said "paint". I'm talking about this stuff. Note that it says "even on a cloudy day".

Er, yes solar cells generally work on cloudy days, probably like how you can still get a tan on cloudy days. but I'm talking about shadows from trees, or even other houses not clouds.

Though this new stuff might be better, they don't say anything about how it has to be set up (though they say it can be woven into a sweater generally half or more of a sweater is going to be in shadow). I just know that with current solar cells they have to be in series and if a shadow falls on one cell they all stop working.

[Cylob]

Round?

[Squashed]

Originally posted by SSJ4 Gogitta
2060: With the advent of FAS (Fast As Light) quantum computing, a new discovery break through allows for FTL (Faster Than Light) computing.

Regarding this, in 2060 MSAdobe announced that the new Photoshop X² will respect this evolution and - if you install the patch - will run with acceptable speed, of course with less features.


And seriously:...I really may not say this as the OT requested...but actually I believe that mankind *will* try to develop all those antimatter-coldfusion-fission-solar stuff to save the power greed but in this attempt they will somehow blow up the planet.
Which isn't a bad thing if it's not totally destroyed; think of a mankind-reset. Can only get better.

[swingdjted]

The counting thread in the recycle bin will have reached roughly 12 million.