Oh How I Hate Tree Huggers

NuklearPanda · 3rd October 2003, 00:22

You know those stinky, un-showered, iggnorant, tie-dye wearing, hippy, some time bearded folk who spend their free time chaining themselves to trees eating tofu and become suicidal during a forest fire? Well I have a guy in my world history class who happens to be a tree hugger prodigy. Out of no where at the end of class he began to talk about how I'm a filthy republican because I don't give a shit about a desolate wild life reserve in the northern tundra of Alaska and Canada, and that ever drilling there for oil would be horrible. And I asked if he'd rather have an untouched tundra field, or pay $10.00 a gallon for gasoline in the future, and he told me he would rather have the untouched tundra field. Now, maybe I'm a "cold-hearted bastard" for not giving a shit about that place, but I know he's a fucking dipshit.

- I fucking hate these people.

godoncrack · 3rd October 2003, 00:29

i am a tree hugger
i eat my steaks rare
i drive a decent car
i would never pay $10.00 for a gallon of gas
i am the ORGINAL cold hearted bastard!
i hate everybody
except the trees
we can have both people and trees

Mike H. · 3rd October 2003, 00:36

I hope you didn't really ask if he'd rather have an untouched tundra field or pay $10 a gallon. This might sound a little bit anal, but what that question means is if we continue to buy foreign gas, it will get more expensive. I think what you meant to say was would you rather have an untouched tundra field or cheap gas.

ryan · 3rd October 2003, 00:39

Oh how I hate people who post in the wrong forum.

Widdykats · 3rd October 2003, 00:40

Quote:

Originally posted by godoncrack
i am a tree hugger
i eat my steaks rare
i drive a decent car
i would never pay $10.00 for a gallon of gas
i am the ORGINAL cold hearted bastard!
i hate everybody
except the trees
we can have both people and trees

It's "The Apocalypse"

I agree with you! We are all going to die!

Namelessv1 · 3rd October 2003, 01:15

The environment is important, but some people take it way overboard. That guy sounds like a douche.

Fickle · 3rd October 2003, 01:56

I hate them too, but Have you ever been to Alaska? I have, it's a beut.

mikm · 3rd October 2003, 01:59

I'm an enviornmentalist, I eat tofu, and I am against the oil field drilling in Alaska, but I am not radical and don't go overboard like that...

laz · 3rd October 2003, 02:00

Well, then I am not welcome into this forum anymore.... damn

Well I hope we all die a nice death from the lack of breathable oxygen in the air, seeing we have cut down all the damn trees on the planet.

Gonzotek · 3rd October 2003, 02:03

Forget $10 a gallon. What do you do when the environment is fucked _AND_ you have no fuel for your machines?

I consider myself a Long Term Thinker, with capital letters. I've never met another one, but I pray to $_DEITY that there are some out there. I'm much more concerned with my grandchildrens grandchildren and all the generations after them than I am with ours. I don't care if you want to label me paranoid, a tree hugging hippy, or just plain crazy; I just take it as obvious that the human race is on a self destruct course that'll have us genetically out of fashion in a few thousand years, at best.

-=Gonzotek=-

Fickle · 3rd October 2003, 02:13

I just think it's dumb to drill more oil when All we have to do is stop giving Japan 90% of what we're already digging out of alaska.

Mike H. · 3rd October 2003, 02:15

What, we sell our oil and buy imported oil?! That seems a little screwed up.

Starbucks · 3rd October 2003, 02:25

Wait a minute, how much oil is in Alaska anyways? Does the US import enough oil from Alaska to justify the drilling?

teh Nightwing · 3rd October 2003, 03:11

Quote:

Originally posted by laz9999
Well, then I am not welcome into this forum anymore.... damn

Well I hope we all die a nice death from the lack of breathable oxygen in the air, seeing we have cut down all the damn trees on the planet.

::looks out window::
HOLY SHIT! Where are all the trees!?!?!? Oh wait........there they are! Hmm......false information

Xerxes · 3rd October 2003, 07:36

The Club of Rome - a roundtable of preiminent intellectuals- predicted in 1970 that by 2000 we would have exausted our natural resources.

Doom-sayers time and again underestimate the tenacity of humanity- the Club of Rome did not factor in that we will always continue to develop new technologies to either replace resources, synthesize resources, or extract previously inaccessible resources.

Resources exist to be consumed.

Enviromentalists: Peace on them.

iomegajaz · 3rd October 2003, 07:49

I respectfully disagree. Resources exist to exist, nothing more. When we create reasons for the existence of things, that's our opinion - not necessarily fact. I do apologise if I've taken you too literally.

Simple creed: Use what works™.

Gonzotek: I've done a lot of thinking about the long-term future also, but have come to the conclusion that I personally am not going to make a difference, and I believe that most things will still be in abundance until at least the end of my life. Which is fine for now, but when I eventually breed (how gutteral dies THAT look..), I'm sure I'll try to find a bandaid cure for the good of my kin.

Xerxes · 3rd October 2003, 08:00

Quote:

Originally posted by iomegajaz
I respectfully disagree. Resources exist to exist, nothing more. When we create reasons for the existence of things, that's our opinion - not necessarily fact. I do apologise if I've taken you too literally.

Simple creed: Use what works™.

I repectfully rebut your argument. Resources by their very nature are not resources until humans can utilize them. Until humans could figure out a use for petroleum, it was not a resource- it was another substance. (And at worst, an unwanted contaminent for ground wells)

When it was found that Petroleum could power internal combustion and be turned into Vaseline and plastic, THEN it became a resource. And once it was a resource, it existed to be consumed. Naturally it as an inanimate object wasn't "imbued by the creator" with a reason to exist, but for all HUMAN intents and purposes, the resource has a reason to exist: to be consumed.

Think of the base meaning of the word "resource" as compared to "substance" or "matter" - calling something a "resource" IMPLIES that it is something that is meant to be consumed, compared to something that is to not be consumed.

Xerxes · 3rd October 2003, 08:01

And "Use What Works" is MY trademark, you copyright violating ho.

iomegajaz · 3rd October 2003, 08:09

Again, I disagree. Resources aren't resources. Resources are substances, which have been labelled resources (after being labelled "substances", I realise this..) by humans. They remain what they are: just stuff. We choose to utilise them, fine, but that doesn't change their nature - the nature of being just stuff.

Take a computer for example. It doesn't exist to provide entertainment/etc, it was created to do so, just as resources are created (labelled) to provide for us.

And I know it's your trademark mate, I knew you'd see it there.. =D I'll put a link to your profile in the text, if that'll make you happy. =P

Xerxes · 3rd October 2003, 08:41

Of course, everything is just stuff- oil is stuff, diamonds are stuff, a human being is stuff. That is the essential truth.

But humans as sentient beings are more than "just stuff" because they are the only known type of stuff that can classify other stuff in several different ways- among them, how useful different types of stuff can be. By classifying things as useful to us (a resource) we by virtue of human will elevate their hierarchy in the universe.

iomegajaz · 3rd October 2003, 10:04

We elevate their heirarchy as it relates to us. You know what? You know what you mean, and I know what I mean. That'll do me. =)

shabaviz55 · 3rd October 2003, 15:17

Tree Huggers are nasty persons, I hate them too...

UpperKEES · 3rd October 2003, 18:34

Tree huggers are strange.

Trees are cool.

3rd October 2003, 00:22	#1
NuklearPanda Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 31	Oh How I Hate Tree Huggers You know those stinky, un-showered, iggnorant, tie-dye wearing, hippy, some time bearded folk who spend their free time chaining themselves to trees eating tofu and become suicidal during a forest fire? Well I have a guy in my world history class who happens to be a tree hugger prodigy. Out of no where at the end of class he began to talk about how I'm a filthy republican because I don't give a shit about a desolate wild life reserve in the northern tundra of Alaska and Canada, and that ever drilling there for oil would be horrible. And I asked if he'd rather have an untouched tundra field, or pay $10.00 a gallon for gasoline in the future, and he told me he would rather have the untouched tundra field. Now, maybe I'm a "cold-hearted bastard" for not giving a shit about that place, but I know he's a fucking dipshit. - I fucking hate these people.

3rd October 2003, 00:29	#2
godoncrack Forum King Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: http://www.mossad.gov.il Posts: 2,135	i am a tree hugger i eat my steaks rare i drive a decent car i would never pay $10.00 for a gallon of gas i am the ORGINAL cold hearted bastard! i hate everybody except the trees we can have both people and trees sin is human

3rd October 2003, 01:56	#7
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,504	I hate them too, but Have you ever been to Alaska? I have, it's a beut. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

3rd October 2003, 01:59	#8
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: 2001:4978:20f::/48 Posts: 1,244	I'm an enviornmentalist, I eat tofu, and I am against the oil field drilling in Alaska, but I am not radical and don't go overboard like that... powered by Câ‚‚Hâ‚…OH \| eff \| aclu

3rd October 2003, 02:03	#10
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	Forget $10 a gallon. What do you do when the environment is fucked _AND_ you have no fuel for your machines? I consider myself a Long Term Thinker, with capital letters. I've never met another one, but I pray to $_DEITY that there are some out there. I'm much more concerned with my grandchildrens grandchildren and all the generations after them than I am with ours. I don't care if you want to label me paranoid, a tree hugging hippy, or just plain crazy; I just take it as obvious that the human race is on a self destruct course that'll have us genetically out of fashion in a few thousand years, at best. -=Gonzotek=- I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

3rd October 2003, 00:36	#3
Mike H. Forum Esperantist (Major Dude) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,135	I hope you didn't really ask if he'd rather have an untouched tundra field or pay $10 a gallon. This might sound a little bit anal, but what that question means is if we continue to buy foreign gas, it will get more expensive. I think what you meant to say was would you rather have an untouched tundra field or cheap gas.

3rd October 2003, 00:39	#4
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tn Posts: 8,755	Oh how I hate people who post in the wrong forum.

3rd October 2003, 01:15	#6
Namelessv1 Forum King Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,758	The environment is important, but some people take it way overboard. That guy sounds like a douche.

3rd October 2003, 02:00	#9
laz Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: the internet Posts: 1,089	Well, then I am not welcome into this forum anymore.... damn Well I hope we all die a nice death from the lack of breathable oxygen in the air, seeing we have cut down all the damn trees on the planet.

3rd October 2003, 02:13	#11
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,504	I just think it's dumb to drill more oil when All we have to do is stop giving Japan 90% of what we're already digging out of alaska. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

3rd October 2003, 02:15	#12
Mike H. Forum Esperantist (Major Dude) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,135	What, we sell our oil and buy imported oil?! That seems a little screwed up.

3rd October 2003, 02:25	#13
Starbucks Forum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Forums Posts: 2,685	Wait a minute, how much oil is in Alaska anyways? Does the US import enough oil from Alaska to justify the drilling?

3rd October 2003, 07:36	#15
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	The Club of Rome - a roundtable of preiminent intellectuals- predicted in 1970 that by 2000 we would have exausted our natural resources. Doom-sayers time and again underestimate the tenacity of humanity- the Club of Rome did not factor in that we will always continue to develop new technologies to either replace resources, synthesize resources, or extract previously inaccessible resources. Resources exist to be consumed. Enviromentalists: Peace on them. Now is the time for all good Americans to come to the aid of their Country

3rd October 2003, 07:49	#16
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 4,702	I respectfully disagree. Resources exist to exist, nothing more. When we create reasons for the existence of things, that's our opinion - not necessarily fact. I do apologise if I've taken you too literally. Simple creed: Use what works™. Gonzotek: I've done a lot of thinking about the long-term future also, but have come to the conclusion that I personally am not going to make a difference, and I believe that most things will still be in abundance until at least the end of my life. Which is fine for now, but when I eventually breed (how gutteral dies THAT look..), I'm sure I'll try to find a bandaid cure for the good of my kin. "My heart hates uggos." --JD.

3rd October 2003, 08:01	#18
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	And "Use What Works" is MY trademark, you copyright violating ho. Now is the time for all good Americans to come to the aid of their Country

3rd October 2003, 08:09	#19
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 4,702	Again, I disagree. Resources aren't resources. Resources are substances, which have been labelled resources (after being labelled "substances", I realise this..) by humans. They remain what they are: just stuff. We choose to utilise them, fine, but that doesn't change their nature - the nature of being just stuff. Take a computer for example. It doesn't exist to provide entertainment/etc, it was created to do so, just as resources are created (labelled) to provide for us. And I know it's your trademark mate, I knew you'd see it there.. =D I'll put a link to your profile in the text, if that'll make you happy. =P "My heart hates uggos." --JD.

3rd October 2003, 08:41	#20
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	Of course, everything is just stuff- oil is stuff, diamonds are stuff, a human being is stuff. That is the essential truth. But humans as sentient beings are more than "just stuff" because they are the only known type of stuff that can classify other stuff in several different ways- among them, how useful different types of stuff can be. By classifying things as useful to us (a resource) we by virtue of human will elevate their hierarchy in the universe. Now is the time for all good Americans to come to the aid of their Country

3rd October 2003, 10:04	#21
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 4,702	We elevate their heirarchy as it relates to us. You know what? You know what you mean, and I know what I mean. That'll do me. =) "My heart hates uggos." --JD.

3rd October 2003, 15:17	#22
shabaviz55 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arak, Iran Posts: 639	Tree Huggers are nasty persons, I hate them too...

3rd October 2003, 18:34	#23
UpperKEES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the Netherlands Status: hyperactive Posts: yes Posts: 477	Tree huggers are strange. Trees are cool.

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