Winamp 5 Beta 2

v1.1 is in reference to their version, not the LAME version. Not sure exactly what version of LAME is currently used, though. Though if enc_lame.dll is their interface to lame_enc.dll, which is what CDex actually uses and you can get the latest version.


I am pushing for addition of the --alt-presets and better quality options to be included on the ripper options.

But, you still would be better off using CDex or EAC, just trying to clear up misconceptions.

[Gonzotek]

Originally posted by blackstripe
Define slow. Mozilla is faster for me than Internet Explorer any day.

IE is still faster (perceptually, I realize it loads with windows) to start up than firebird.

That said, Firebird wipes IE's ass when I compare day-to-day usage of both. I can get more done, easier and quicker, in Firebird than IE. I haven't had a firebird crash in two months(exception being a buggy extension I installed, same thing could happen in IE).

[Germ]

The AAC Encoder, dork, not lame. Before thou bitches, get informed.

[D&B]

Originally posted by Sawg
I am pushing for addition of the --alt-presets and better quality options to be included on the ripper options.

Thanks! Add my vote in!

I would love to use Winamp as my cd-ripper (i actually have a big too-rip stack I have been procrastinating.) Any chance for some error correction stuff alah EAC (i am going to pay for the pro version as soon as possible.)

[D&B]

Originally posted by blackstripe
Why would you actually pay to use LAME in Winamp when you can use EAC and LAME for free and specify encoding options (such as -alt-preset-standard)? In addition, the version of LAME included with Winamp is v1.1... we've got development of LAME v4.0 going on here people. Catch up with the times.

Which is sort of exactly what I said. Winamp would have to have some damn awesome ripping in order for me to use it over EAC.

But I am becoming lazier as I grow old, and have more time constraints. I would really enjoy it if Winamp did everything.

Nevertheless, I will pay for the pro version (if the price is reasonable), mainly because I love Nullsoft. I love their software, and I have had very nice dealings with them (some freaking instant bug fixes) in the past.

[blackstripe]

Originally posted by Gonzotek
IE is still faster (perceptually, I realize it loads with windows) to start up than firebird.

Isn't there a preference to have it load into memory at startup? I haven't really used Firebird all that much, but I know that option exists in the Mozilla suite.


@Sawg Ah, ok. Maybe then it could be clarified what the version used in Winamp equates to, since seeing "v1.1" definitely put me off.

Originally posted by Germ
The AAC Encoder, dork, not lame. Before thou bitches, get informed.

No, dork, the AAC encoder included with Winamp5 Beta is at v1.00 and the included LAME is at v1.1 Before thou tries to be a smartass, get informed.

[Mystiq]

Before thou bitchethst, get thee informed.

[D&B]

Originally posted by blackstripe
Isn't there a preference to have it load into memory at startup? I haven't really used Firebird all that much, but I know that option exists in the Mozilla suite.

Nope. It has been buggy in Firebird since 0.4 and totaly broke in the nightlys after 0.6. No plans to bring it back.

[Ricochet]

I really love WinAmp 5 Beta!!!
Keep it up

[auhsor]

About not making Classic skins useless by changing the layout or whatever. Does anyone even use the classic skins with Winamp 5? If no, well why can't Nullsoft develop and not be hindered by out of date skins? Skin developers could just update their skins too...

did that make sense, or am I getting this all wrong? (nOOb)

[nybergh]

About not making Classic skins useless by changing the layout or whatever. Does anyone even use the classic skins with Winamp 5? If no, well why can't Nullsoft develop and not be hindered by out of date skins? Skin developers could just update their skins too...

I had only one reson to start use Winanp 2 1½ year ago. It was the computer I had in those days, a goddamn slow 166mhz P1 ruuning Win98 at 32 MB RAM. I'm sure that many of the Winamp users have slow computers that wouldn't run the pretty modern skins. Therefore WA-classicskincompiblity is nothing that should be left away from any WA5-release.

By the way: full color icons are indeed needed. Now I "have to" use the WA3-icon in my desktop shortcuts...

[Dipso]

But the added functionality that you claimed classic comp. made impossible could be an extra bonus of using modern skins. For instance having the sidecar display the ML'playlists on modern skins, while classic users would have to live without this. As long as the classic users can use winamp fully without hitting any "dead ends", i realy don't see the problem of having different functionality between the two skin models.

Its already a bit like this with some of the buttons and functions on the modern skin, missing from the classic one.

[nybergh]

I would like the sidecar too, and I uderstand what u mean. That would be completely okay as long as wa5 works as wa2 if you want it to.

[punkomar]

THERE IS ANY GRAFIC REVIEW OF THIS WINAMP 5?

[Dipso]

Originally posted by punkomar
THERE IS ANY GRAFIC REVIEW OF THIS WINAMP 5?

if you go to the links in the top of this topic there are both screenshots and downloads for beta 1 of winamp5.

And watch the caps, shouting in forums is just as anoying here as it is on the buss

[papadoc]

@ punkomar

Download with Screenshot

[iklimon]

Anyone know why WinAmp 5 does not recognize (at all) AAC files ripped with iTunes?

[D&B]

Probably cause Apple uses lots of proprietary DRM crap.

@iklimon
Try http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/in_mp4.exe

[graigsmith]

WOW ITS NICE.. fast responsive.. goooood

its a beta and already i dont think i can use winamp 2 again.

not having any problems at all... i really like the default winamp 5 skin.. the modern one ... and i like the choice of colors.. but i think it needs a few GREEN colored skins. thanks.

[iron2000]

Is the modern skin support a plugin ?
If so can it be used with WA 2.XX ?

Winamp5 is pretty much Winamp 2.X. Though I think there are changes in winamp.exe to work better with gen_ff.dll

[evil_oj]

I can't wait until there's a "Rescan Media Folders" button in the Media Library! I love the fact that we can add multiple folders to the list to be scanned, it shows that Nullsoft is in touch with what would be good.

Overall, I get a sense from Winamp5 that Nullsoft knows what their users want. I guess the survey that they did a while back helped.

Originally posted by evil_oj
I can't wait until there's a "Rescan Media Folders" button in the Media Library!

There already in the internals. Next beta (or final release, whatever is publicly released).

[evil_oj]

cool! thanks!

I already prefer Winamp5 to iTunes as a jukebox, we just need CD burning, and some tightening of the interface for CD ripping. Maybe some sort of Smart Playlist stuff, though I kinda like the 'views' in the media library, they would need an interface more like the one that iTunes has for the Smart Playlist.

[StAnGeR04]

Everytime I add a dir to the PL using the playlist itself it's adds the MP4's I'm playing (..and yus I'm using the MP4-AAC plugin from hydrogenaudio ..) it's all playing jus fine ..but the min:sec on the right side of the playlist is showing as 23443.95 for example until I click on a song and play it then it shows as it should ex. 4:53

I'm betting it's a plugin problem but it does this for ogg and mp3 as well .. if anyone needs a screenshot let me know

winXP Pro SP1
Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53Ghz
512 meg PC3500
Realtek AC'97 6-channel
Asus A7V8X motherboard

[javyn]

stupid question i know, but what is dfx? i assume its a plugin that acts as another equilizer....can you use the winamp graphic equalizer with it, or does it take the place of it?

[Squee_22]

dfx sucks. It's shareware so they want you to pay. try using dee 2 It's free and just as good if not better

[amano]

dfx is a dsp plugin, a digital sound processing plugin, that does more than just equalizing the music.

[javyn]

I just got one called "Enhancer". Is this one good or should i go with dee2? Also, do you use this equalizers with the default graphic eq that comes with winamp, or should I shut that one off and use Enhancer instead?

PS i notice on enhancer the volume slider slides around on its own on it's rock setting. Is this normal?

[AtiUser]

Originally posted by javyn
I just got one called "Enhancer". Is this one good or should i go with dee2?

Enhancer works fine for me, you have to try another dsp plugin, then you are able to choose the right for you

PS i notice on enhancer the volume slider slides around on its own on it's rock setting. Is this normal?

Yes.

Enhancer has an help file included, just click on the Help button

[D&B]

Originally posted by javyn
I just got one called "Enhancer". Is this one good or should i go with dee2? Also, do you use this equalizers with the default graphic eq that comes with winamp, or should I shut that one off and use Enhancer instead?

PS i notice on enhancer the volume slider slides around on its own on it's rock setting. Is this normal?

In my opinion enhancer is, hands down, the best DSP plugin for winamp. I do not use it with the winamp equalizer, I just let it do its magic.

[javyn]

it definately changes the sound hehe. thanks for the help guys, sorry about all the nitpicky questions, i read the documentation for enhancer....didn't really understand it b/c i know nothing about music and harmonics and all that shit, ill stick with the presets. but one more question i couldn't find in the help file...

can you snap the enhancer window to your winamp and playlist windows?

[AtiUser]

Originally posted by javyn
can you snap the enhancer window to your winamp and playlist windows?

In Winamp 2.9x you can snap the enhancer to your winamp windows.

[edit]I see with classic skins it works[/edit]

I think the author has to update his plugin to work accurate with WA5.

But I prefer to hide the enhancer window, enhancer works in background for me, so I don't have these docking problems ;-)

[amano]

Hmm, the enhancer author hasn't updated his plugin since 2001. I don't think that would change for winamp 5

[DJ Egg]

Not necessarily.
If it worked with Winamp 2.9x, then there'd be no reason for the author to update it. But now he/she has a reason, I guess . . .

[D&B]

Originally posted by amano
Hmm, the enhancer author hasn't updated his plugin since 2001. I don't think that would change for winamp 5

I know, I am afraid! I have tried emailing them several times -- no response. I wish we could at least get the source code from him/her if they plan on never updating it.

[CraigF]

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....22#post1143922

fun fun.

just for the record, this is winamp 5.0beta2build7.

let the discussion commence...

[apollos]

Er, why does my song restart when I edit an ID tag?

[mark]

go nullsoft!