Light a Match......Extinguish a Life

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 00:22

Incredible!

While the southern California wildfires rage on, it's now disclosed that one of the major fires was started by a lost deer hunter who lit a signal fire in hopes of getting attention. Think he got their attention?
NASA photo of the fires

How can someone intentionally light fires that eventually cost people not only their homes but their lives, as well?

hgnis · 28th October 2003, 00:27

I've heard that 13 people were burned to death already. Wonderful how the average Joe usually ends up dead and the assholes tend to be alive.

cyu · 28th October 2003, 00:29

they might as well sue the people who made the flares.. i mean don't a lot of flares go off in the woods?

Namelessv1 · 28th October 2003, 00:29

That guy is now officially a fucknut.

WomanOfHeart · 28th October 2003, 00:41

The same thing happened in Arizona a couple years ago, if I remember correctly. Some fuckwit got lost and lit a fire thinking it would get someones attention. Yeah, it got a lot of attention all right.
And how about that fucktard bitch that set the Hayman fire here in Colorado last year? Yeah, sure...you were just burning a letter from your husband...IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOREST DURING FIRE SEASON!

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 00:46

She'll be forced to live with that dumbass move the rest of her life(Hayman dumbass bitch)

Coman · 28th October 2003, 01:22

where's the fire in the image

is it the red outlines?

Fickle · 28th October 2003, 01:25

I just saw the top ones at first, so I didn't get the big deal.

...Then I scrolled down.

What a fucking moron.

before you ask, me and the lost hunter are the fucking morons. Yes. Us two.

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 01:35

That's not the image I hoped for.
NBC news had a shot where all the smoke gathered over the coast and out to sea. Was an incredible picture that I regret I couldn't find for you

Last I knew Xerxes lived in SoCal/MidCal. Care to enlighten us zen master?

lil vixen · 28th October 2003, 01:49

We had bad fires here in Fla. a few years ago, I forget but I believe they were started by kids, The season didn't have much rain and they lasted for a while, When you walked outside it was horrible. My mom's house was at risk, cause the fires were out her back yard. Luckily I don't think there many deathes and only a few injuries.

Coman · 28th October 2003, 01:49

all those fires were caused by one person? why are they in a distance from each other?

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 02:00

There are two others suspected of being arson or murder in this case. They are pursuing two individuals in one fire. The SOUTHERN MOST fire was caused by the hunter.

godoncrack · 28th October 2003, 02:05

Life is not good when your fuck up can be seen from space.

Namelessv1 · 28th October 2003, 02:19

2 of the 3 fires are suspected of arson. The San Diego fire was the dumbass hunter, the San Bernadino fire was suspected to be set by a couple of white guys in a Chevy van, and the Simi Valley fire is a natural fire. I'm closest to the Simi Valley one. Craploads of ash and cinder falling here in Ventura.

J. Burnaway · 28th October 2003, 05:00

I live closest to the one set by the moron hunter. I shot this pic from my backyard yesterday:

That's the smoke of thousands of eucalyptus trees and hundreds of houses going up in flames. My wife and I drove through the area, as much as we could, tonight, and there were still spots that had embers still glowing. The fire moved really quickly. The picture doesn't really do the fire justice - the smoke seemed much blacker and more ominous.

Today there was a blanket of reddish smoke over the whole area - we didn't see blue sky all day. There is ash in our street like a fine dusting of snow.

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 05:04

As long as you are safe J.

Best wishes!

J. Burnaway · 28th October 2003, 05:09

I'm good thanks Chev. I was listening on the radio today and they are actually turning away donations at the stadium - where about 5,000 displaced people are - because they have more than enough already. It's nice to see people pull together.

We were fortunate in that we never had to leave our house. My brother-in-law and his fiance were told they had one hour to evacuate at one point, but the fire switched course and they could stay. They were in the San Bernadino fire up north of here.

randman · 28th October 2003, 05:09

Jeezus JB. Keep safe. We're all hoping for a quick end to this.

FesterHead · 28th October 2003, 05:13

A la Jeff Foxworthy:

If you have to set a forest fire for a signal, then you might be a redneck.

[um, it seemed funnier in thought than in pixel form. Let me start a fire to get help.]

J. Burnaway · 28th October 2003, 05:18

The guy was especially moronic considering the forecast for temperatures in the 90's to 100's, less than 10% humidity and winds at 40 mph. Dumbass.

Thanks randman - the weather forecast is looking up - cooler, more humid, less wind.

ShyShy · 28th October 2003, 05:26

I'm very glad to hear that you're ok, J. It's just awful to know that these fires are costing not only property damage, but the worst is the lives lost.

Stay safe, hon'.

J. Burnaway · 28th October 2003, 05:33

Unfortunately many, if not all, the people who lost their lives so far were people who disregarded the warnings to evacuate and stayed behind.

Things can be replaced. Lives cannot.

Thanks ShyShy.

ShyShy · 28th October 2003, 05:36

That just amazes me when people decide to disregard their safety for the material issues. Call it a parent's instinct, whatever, but the first and ONLY thing I'll worry about grabbing is the rugrat. She definitly cannot be replaced.

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 05:37

Eet's up to Ahnold to poot owt dat fiyah!

We'll gladly donate the snow that we're sure to get in the next few days. As a matter of fact, Colorado has sent 2 C130's, 2 firetrucks and 15 firefighters so far. I'm sure we'll send more once we're sure that relief is here for our own dry conditions.

J. Burnaway · 28th October 2003, 05:41

Yep, that's the problem - more fires could hit somewhere else. Didn't the fires in Arizona go on for weeks a few years ago?

Ahnold isn't the Governor yet. Ol' Gray was trotting around town today, enjoying his last few days as boss, sidestepping the fact that there have been 2 C130's sitting at Pt. Mugu for the last few days as the fires raged.

The good news is, no work today - fire is burning on the road to my work. The bad news is I won't get paid.

Bizznatch · 28th October 2003, 06:53

the smoke from this fire has traveled pretty far, its even noticable here in San Jose.

Xerxes · 28th October 2003, 07:19

FYI, I live in Costa Mesa- its plush. And I mean that in a "Very well watered next to the beach, I'm not afraid of the big bad fire" sort of way. I laugh in the face of it. Before it gets to my house it would have to go through South Coast Plaza and the Largest Ikea on this Hemisphere.

I dare the wildfire to even try! The entire city would scramble if it even got a couple miles away from the Ikea.

In any case, the sunset is deep volcanic red, and my car is covered with a blanket of ash every morning- I say, it's like living in Pompeii- without the boiling volcanic ash drowning your screaming body part.

randman · 28th October 2003, 07:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Xerxes
FYI, I live in Costa Mesa- its plush. And I mean that in a "Very well watered next to the beach, I'm not afraid of the big bad fire" sort of way. I laugh in the face of it. Before it gets to my house it would have to go through South Coast Plaza and the Largest Ikea on this Hemisphere.

I dare the wildfire to even try! The entire city would scramble if it even got a couple miles away from the Ikea.

In any case, the sunset is deep volcanic red, and my car is covered with a blanket of ash every morning- I say, it's like living in Pompeii- without the boiling volcanic ash drowning your screaming body part.

Then again, you're so inherently evil, you could just spontaneously combust.

Xerxes · 28th October 2003, 07:27

Point Granted.

Widdykats · 28th October 2003, 11:09

Saw on the news some man crying with his wife; burying
one of his cats.

Human life, people's homes and their pets.
Forever this guy will be known as "The Moronic Hunter"...
Can t they "toast" him or something....
I'll send ya' N.Y. water JB. It'll put out anything!

uh, don't drink it...

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 11:36

They need to take the guy, shove a hose up his output shaft, and use him as a sprayhead.

Widdykats · 28th October 2003, 11:41

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
They need to take the guy, shove a hose up his output shaft, and use him as a sprayhead.

Now, there's a vivid image!

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 11:43

Holy timing from hell!

Our local weather babe was just doing the weather from a fire station, where the firemen were showing her all the equipment and outfitting her in the gear when guess what?

They got a call that a house was burning!

They stripped her ass from the gear in record time then had to swap the gear to a real firefighter. Freakin' COOL!

Psyfive and WomanOfHeart may know her (Kathy Sabine from 9News Denver)

J. Burnaway · 28th October 2003, 14:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Widdykats
Saw on the news some man crying with his wife; burying
one of his cats. Human life, people's homes and their pets.
Forever this guy will be known as "The Moronic Hunter"...
Can t they "toast" him or something....
I'll send ya' N.Y. water JB. It'll put out anything!
uh, don't drink it...

That's sad to hear. Some people were away from their homes when it happened and weren't allowed to get back to their pets. There was a shot on TV of a pug standing out on a sidewalk after fires blazed through his neighborhood - hopefully the news crew grabbed him.

We had a plan to get our animals out. Pets and pictures and some financial info - screw the rest.

(And thanks for the water Widdy - it goes down smooooth)

Xerxes · 28th October 2003, 15:56

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
They need to take the guy, shove a hose up his output shaft, and use him as a sprayhead.

I think he should just be locked up in the same cell as the guy who started our giant fires 10- just as bad as this- years ago. A homeless man started a bonfire in the middle of dead desrt brush, so he could keep warm.

WomanOfHeart · 28th October 2003, 16:22

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Holy timing from hell!

Our local weather babe was just doing the weather from a fire station, where the firemen were showing her all the equipment and outfitting her in the gear when guess what?

They got a call that a house was burning!

They stripped her ass from the gear in record time then had to swap the gear to a real firefighter. Freakin' COOL!

Psyfive and WomanOfHeart may know her (Kathy Sabine from 9News Denver)

Damn! Kathy Sabine got stripped and I missed it! I'll have to check their message boards now just to see what people are saying. LMAO!!!

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 16:34

Hate to go off topic but damn, I love Kathy!

d0rk · 28th October 2003, 19:24

I work in tech support and last night a guy called in and this was the call after I did my opening script:

Man: "Yah I can't connect to the DSL"
Me: "Alright I apoligize for any...." Me getting cut off
Man: "Oh uh...I live in California and the fire is only a mile or so from my house so is this gonna take long?"
Heres where I put it on mute and laughed
Me: "Well sir I dont know how long it would take but if your life could be in danger I suggest we disconnect."
Man: "But I want my DSL working!"
Man: "I guess I could call back in...bye."

Moron

ElChevelle · 28th October 2003, 19:27

People are ridiculous in these kinds of things. Fire moves alot faster than most realize.

ShyShy · 28th October 2003, 20:46

Damn, and hear I thought I'd heard just about everything. Please tell me you made that up, d0rk, cause I'd have to cry if that really happened.

28th October 2003, 00:22	#1
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	Light a Match......Extinguish a Life Incredible! While the southern California wildfires rage on, it's now disclosed that one of the major fires was started by a lost deer hunter who lit a signal fire in hopes of getting attention. Think he got their attention? NASA photo of the fires How can someone intentionally light fires that eventually cost people not only their homes but their lives, as well?

28th October 2003, 00:27	#2
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,127	I've heard that 13 people were burned to death already. Wonderful how the average Joe usually ends up dead and the assholes tend to be alive. I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

28th October 2003, 01:22	#7
Coman Punk (Forum King) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4.5th dimension . . Posts: infinitely few Posts: 2,799	where's the fire in the image is it the red outlines? "Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?"

28th October 2003, 01:25	#8
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,502	I just saw the top ones at first, so I didn't get the big deal. ...Then I scrolled down. What a fucking moron. before you ask, me and the lost hunter are the fucking morons. Yes. Us two. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

28th October 2003, 01:49	#10
lil vixen Major Dudette Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Between here and there. Posts: 826	We had bad fires here in Fla. a few years ago, I forget but I believe they were started by kids, The season didn't have much rain and they lasted for a while, When you walked outside it was horrible. My mom's house was at risk, cause the fires were out her back yard. Luckily I don't think there many deathes and only a few injuries. I've been c0rrupted in a world of make.believe. -suzy-

28th October 2003, 00:29	#3
cyu Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 1,617	they might as well sue the people who made the flares.. i mean don't a lot of flares go off in the woods?

28th October 2003, 00:29	#4
Namelessv1 Forum King Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,757	That guy is now officially a fucknut.

28th October 2003, 00:41	#5
WomanOfHeart Major Dudette Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Somewhere no one can find me...in my own head. Posts: 978	The same thing happened in Arizona a couple years ago, if I remember correctly. Some fuckwit got lost and lit a fire thinking it would get someones attention. Yeah, it got a lot of attention all right. And how about that fucktard bitch that set the Hayman fire here in Colorado last year? Yeah, sure...you were just burning a letter from your husband...IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOREST DURING FIRE SEASON!

28th October 2003, 00:46	#6
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	She'll be forced to live with that dumbass move the rest of her life(Hayman dumbass bitch)

28th October 2003, 01:35	#9
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	That's not the image I hoped for. NBC news had a shot where all the smoke gathered over the coast and out to sea. Was an incredible picture that I regret I couldn't find for you Last I knew Xerxes lived in SoCal/MidCal. Care to enlighten us zen master?

28th October 2003, 02:00	#12
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	There are two others suspected of being arson or murder in this case. They are pursuing two individuals in one fire. The SOUTHERN MOST fire was caused by the hunter.

28th October 2003, 02:05	#13
godoncrack Forum King Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: http://www.mossad.gov.il Posts: 2,135	Life is not good when your fuck up can be seen from space. sin is human

28th October 2003, 02:19	#14
Namelessv1 Forum King Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,757	2 of the 3 fires are suspected of arson. The San Diego fire was the dumbass hunter, the San Bernadino fire was suspected to be set by a couple of white guys in a Chevy van, and the Simi Valley fire is a natural fire. I'm closest to the Simi Valley one. Craploads of ash and cinder falling here in Ventura.

28th October 2003, 05:00	#15
J. Burnaway Forum King Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,536	I live closest to the one set by the moron hunter. I shot this pic from my backyard yesterday: That's the smoke of thousands of eucalyptus trees and hundreds of houses going up in flames. My wife and I drove through the area, as much as we could, tonight, and there were still spots that had embers still glowing. The fire moved really quickly. The picture doesn't really do the fire justice - the smoke seemed much blacker and more ominous. Today there was a blanket of reddish smoke over the whole area - we didn't see blue sky all day. There is ash in our street like a fine dusting of snow.

28th October 2003, 05:04	#16
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	As long as you are safe J. Best wishes!

28th October 2003, 05:09	#17
J. Burnaway Forum King Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,536	I'm good thanks Chev. I was listening on the radio today and they are actually turning away donations at the stadium - where about 5,000 displaced people are - because they have more than enough already. It's nice to see people pull together. We were fortunate in that we never had to leave our house. My brother-in-law and his fiance were told they had one hour to evacuate at one point, but the fire switched course and they could stay. They were in the San Bernadino fire up north of here.

28th October 2003, 05:09	#18
randman Ol' Dirty Loser (Major Dude) Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 1,287	Jeezus JB. Keep safe. We're all hoping for a quick end to this. I see no stinking sig! Do you see a stinking sig?

28th October 2003, 05:13	#19
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	A la Jeff Foxworthy: If you have to set a forest fire for a signal, then you might be a redneck. [um, it seemed funnier in thought than in pixel form. Let me start a fire to get help.]

28th October 2003, 05:18	#20
J. Burnaway Forum King Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,536	The guy was especially moronic considering the forecast for temperatures in the 90's to 100's, less than 10% humidity and winds at 40 mph. Dumbass. Thanks randman - the weather forecast is looking up - cooler, more humid, less wind.

28th October 2003, 05:26	#21
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	I'm very glad to hear that you're ok, J. It's just awful to know that these fires are costing not only property damage, but the worst is the lives lost. Stay safe, hon'.

28th October 2003, 05:33	#22
J. Burnaway Forum King Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,536	Unfortunately many, if not all, the people who lost their lives so far were people who disregarded the warnings to evacuate and stayed behind. Things can be replaced. Lives cannot. Thanks ShyShy.

28th October 2003, 05:36	#23
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	That just amazes me when people decide to disregard their safety for the material issues. Call it a parent's instinct, whatever, but the first and ONLY thing I'll worry about grabbing is the rugrat. She definitly cannot be replaced.

28th October 2003, 05:37	#24
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	Eet's up to Ahnold to poot owt dat fiyah! We'll gladly donate the snow that we're sure to get in the next few days. As a matter of fact, Colorado has sent 2 C130's, 2 firetrucks and 15 firefighters so far. I'm sure we'll send more once we're sure that relief is here for our own dry conditions.

28th October 2003, 05:41	#25
J. Burnaway Forum King Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,536	Yep, that's the problem - more fires could hit somewhere else. Didn't the fires in Arizona go on for weeks a few years ago? Ahnold isn't the Governor yet. Ol' Gray was trotting around town today, enjoying his last few days as boss, sidestepping the fact that there have been 2 C130's sitting at Pt. Mugu for the last few days as the fires raged. The good news is, no work today - fire is burning on the road to my work. The bad news is I won't get paid.

28th October 2003, 06:53	#26
Bizznatch Forum King Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,180	the smoke from this fire has traveled pretty far, its even noticable here in San Jose.

28th October 2003, 07:19	#27
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	FYI, I live in Costa Mesa- its plush. And I mean that in a "Very well watered next to the beach, I'm not afraid of the big bad fire" sort of way. I laugh in the face of it. Before it gets to my house it would have to go through South Coast Plaza and the Largest Ikea on this Hemisphere. I dare the wildfire to even try! The entire city would scramble if it even got a couple miles away from the Ikea. In any case, the sunset is deep volcanic red, and my car is covered with a blanket of ash every morning- I say, it's like living in Pompeii- without the boiling volcanic ash drowning your screaming body part.

28th October 2003, 07:27	#29
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	Point Granted.

28th October 2003, 11:09	#30
Widdykats The Forum Slut Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A place that invites a post pumping whore from NY Posts: 15,787	Saw on the news some man crying with his wife; burying one of his cats. Human life, people's homes and their pets. Forever this guy will be known as "The Moronic Hunter"... Can t they "toast" him or something.... I'll send ya' N.Y. water JB. It'll put out anything! uh, don't drink it... Ooh, Gabardine

28th October 2003, 11:36	#31
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	They need to take the guy, shove a hose up his output shaft, and use him as a sprayhead.

28th October 2003, 11:43	#33
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	Holy timing from hell! Our local weather babe was just doing the weather from a fire station, where the firemen were showing her all the equipment and outfitting her in the gear when guess what? They got a call that a house was burning! They stripped her ass from the gear in record time then had to swap the gear to a real firefighter. Freakin' COOL! Psyfive and WomanOfHeart may know her (Kathy Sabine from 9News Denver)

28th October 2003, 16:34	#37
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	Hate to go off topic but damn, I love Kathy!

28th October 2003, 19:24	#38
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	I work in tech support and last night a guy called in and this was the call after I did my opening script: Man: "Yah I can't connect to the DSL" Me: "Alright I apoligize for any...." Me getting cut off Man: "Oh uh...I live in California and the fire is only a mile or so from my house so is this gonna take long?" Heres where I put it on mute and laughed Me: "Well sir I dont know how long it would take but if your life could be in danger I suggest we disconnect." Man: "But I want my DSL working!" Man: "I guess I could call back in...bye." Moron I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

28th October 2003, 19:27	#39
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	People are ridiculous in these kinds of things. Fire moves alot faster than most realize.

28th October 2003, 20:46	#40
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Damn, and hear I thought I'd heard just about everything. Please tell me you made that up, d0rk, cause I'd have to cry if that really happened.

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