Underrun issues

Windmaker · 25th November 2003, 15:54

I keep having underrun issues.

one day it's fine the next I have issues. is this a sign that I need to drop stream to something lower?
I have put part of my log at the bottom of this message

<11/25/03@09:04:35> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 187)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:37> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (2 seconds) (UID: 187)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:38> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 188)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:39> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (1 seconds) (UID: 188)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:40> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 189)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:42> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (2 seconds) (UID: 189)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:42> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 190)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:04:45> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (3 seconds) (UID: 190)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:07:29> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:08:49> [dest: 192.31.106.34] starting stream (UID: 191)[L: 1]{A: RMA/1.0 (compatible; RealMedia)}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:10:31> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:13:32> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:16:34> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:19:35> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:22:37> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:25:38> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:27:49> [dest: 192.31.106.35] starting stream (UID: 192)[L: 2]{A: RMA/1.0 (compatible; RealMedia)}(P: 2)
<11/25/03@09:28:40> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:28:45> [dest: 192.31.106.34] connection closed (1196 seconds) (UID: 191)[L: 1]{Bytes: 15818752}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:31:41> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:34:43> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:35:16> [dest: 80.50.87.198] starting stream (UID: 193)[L: 2]{A: WinampMPEG/5.0}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:35:26> [dest: 80.50.87.198] connection closed (10 seconds) (UID: 193)[L: 1]{Bytes: 49152}(P: 0)
<11/25/03@09:37:44> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:40:45> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:43:50> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:46:53> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:49:54> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!
<11/25/03@09:52:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!

djmastermind · 25th November 2003, 15:56

I see no errors.

"yp added me" means your station information (station name, bitrate, maximum number listeners, current number listeners, currently playing song, ...) has been added to the SHOUTcast yp (yellow pages) directory.

"yp touched" means your station information (station name, bitrate, maximum number listeners, current number listeners, currently playing song, ...) has been updated in the SHOUTcast yp directory.

It can take up to 15 minutes after the first "yp touched" message before your station appears from a SHOUTcast yp search.

NJK · 25th November 2003, 15:58

how about giving us a link to your station or post some data like the kbps rate you are on etc

looking at your data above - nothing wrong as far as i can see

Windmaker · 25th November 2003, 16:06

my station is http://66.47.27.11:8000/listen.pls
running: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 1 of 32 listeners
I have DSL

djmastermind · 25th November 2003, 16:07

That is a normal log snippet.. but I guarantee that you won't be able to handle 32 listeners at 128kbps.

Check out the Sticky post titled:
SHOUTcast: Important Info & Answers to FAQs. READ ME!

Scroll down a bit and look for the section titled:
1. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> DSLReports Bandwidth tester(Only be concerned with the UPLOAD bandwidth)
2. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Listener Calculator
3. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Bandwidth Calculator

Use 1 to find your upload.
Use 2 to determine the number of listeners you can support at your selected streaming bitrate.

Additionally, your listeners download needs to exceed your streaming bitrate.

Jay (KXRM) also has a Bandwidth Calculator.

Windmaker · 25th November 2003, 16:10

ok yeah I think it's my listeners download speed problem. I'm not worried about having that many people on there because there won't be. I'm just to lazy to drop it down.

djmastermind · 25th November 2003, 16:12

Feel free to keep it at 128kbps, but if listeners connect and get buffering, they won't return.

Windmaker · 25th November 2003, 16:14

I don't care about my listeners it's mainlly only for a few friends.

NJK · 25th November 2003, 16:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Windmaker
I don't care about my listeners it's mainlly only for a few friends.

skip the few and make it "it's mainly for one friend" because at your current 128kbps you won't get anymore people.

I'm on broadband internet and had to wait long before I got a connection.

be wise and drop down to 56kbps or something like that

FesterHead · 25th November 2003, 16:50

Third party DNAS hosting

Windmaker · 25th November 2003, 17:42

everyone who is connecting to my server has T1 or better. Part of the porblem is I also have a Team Speak server, and 5 FTP servers on there as well so the bandwidth changed depending who is on.

djmastermind · 25th November 2003, 18:45

If you have other things using your upload bandwidth, which you obviously do have, you should consider lowering your bitrate a bit.

25th November 2003, 15:54	#1
Windmaker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12	Underrun issues I keep having underrun issues. one day it's fine the next I have issues. is this a sign that I need to drop stream to something lower? I have put part of my log at the bottom of this message <11/25/03@09:04:35> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 187)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:37> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (2 seconds) (UID: 187)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:38> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 188)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:39> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (1 seconds) (UID: 188)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:40> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 189)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:42> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (2 seconds) (UID: 189)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:42> [dest: 198.190.222.37] starting stream (UID: 190)[L: 1]{A: WinampMPEG/2.9}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:04:45> [dest: 198.190.222.37] connection closed (3 seconds) (UID: 190)[L: 0]{Bytes: 24576}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:07:29> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:08:49> [dest: 192.31.106.34] starting stream (UID: 191)[L: 1]{A: RMA/1.0 (compatible; RealMedia)}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:10:31> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:13:32> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:16:34> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:19:35> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:22:37> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:25:38> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:27:49> [dest: 192.31.106.35] starting stream (UID: 192)[L: 2]{A: RMA/1.0 (compatible; RealMedia)}(P: 2) <11/25/03@09:28:40> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:28:45> [dest: 192.31.106.34] connection closed (1196 seconds) (UID: 191)[L: 1]{Bytes: 15818752}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:31:41> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:34:43> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:35:16> [dest: 80.50.87.198] starting stream (UID: 193)[L: 2]{A: WinampMPEG/5.0}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:35:26> [dest: 80.50.87.198] connection closed (10 seconds) (UID: 193)[L: 1]{Bytes: 49152}(P: 0) <11/25/03@09:37:44> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:40:45> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:43:50> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:46:53> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:49:54> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched! <11/25/03@09:52:57> [yp_tch] yp.shoutcast.com touched!

25th November 2003, 15:56	#2
djmastermind Forum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6,813	I see no errors. "yp added me" means your station information (station name, bitrate, maximum number listeners, current number listeners, currently playing song, ...) has been added to the SHOUTcast yp (yellow pages) directory. "yp touched" means your station information (station name, bitrate, maximum number listeners, current number listeners, currently playing song, ...) has been updated in the SHOUTcast yp directory. It can take up to 15 minutes after the first "yp touched" message before your station appears from a SHOUTcast yp search. -- Michael

25th November 2003, 15:58	#3
NJK FRISIAN (MOD) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: in a house Posts: 16,103	how about giving us a link to your station or post some data like the kbps rate you are on etc looking at your data above - nothing wrong as far as i can see Each Thursday a new show on Celtica Radio with Darkwave music. WINAMP SHOUTCAST

25th November 2003, 16:07	#5
djmastermind Forum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6,813	That is a normal log snippet.. but I guarantee that you won't be able to handle 32 listeners at 128kbps. Check out the Sticky post titled: SHOUTcast: Important Info & Answers to FAQs. READ ME! Scroll down a bit and look for the section titled: 1. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> DSLReports Bandwidth tester(Only be concerned with the UPLOAD bandwidth) 2. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Listener Calculator 3. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Bandwidth Calculator Use 1 to find your upload. Use 2 to determine the number of listeners you can support at your selected streaming bitrate. Additionally, your listeners download needs to exceed your streaming bitrate. Jay (KXRM) also has a Bandwidth Calculator. -- Michael

25th November 2003, 16:12	#7
djmastermind Forum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6,813	Feel free to keep it at 128kbps, but if listeners connect and get buffering, they won't return. -- Michael

25th November 2003, 16:06	#4
Windmaker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12	my station is http://66.47.27.11:8000/listen.pls running: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 1 of 32 listeners I have DSL

25th November 2003, 16:10	#6
Windmaker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12	ok yeah I think it's my listeners download speed problem. I'm not worried about having that many people on there because there won't be. I'm just to lazy to drop it down.

25th November 2003, 16:14	#8
Windmaker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12	I don't care about my listeners it's mainlly only for a few friends.

25th November 2003, 16:50	#10
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	Third party DNAS hosting

25th November 2003, 17:42	#11
Windmaker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12	everyone who is connecting to my server has T1 or better. Part of the porblem is I also have a Team Speak server, and 5 FTP servers on there as well so the bandwidth changed depending who is on.

25th November 2003, 18:45	#12
djmastermind Forum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6,813	If you have other things using your upload bandwidth, which you obviously do have, you should consider lowering your bitrate a bit. -- Michael

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