Canada, Oh Canada

old and quite mad · 14th December 2003, 00:49

P2P DOWNLOADS are ruled legal.

See the story for DETAILS.

net-cruizer · 14th December 2003, 01:10

This is gonna suck big time. In many ways.
First off, buying a hard drive or expensive mp3 player is gonna cost a fortune now.
Also, the people that don't download copyrighted media are gonna start whining and blaming p2p users for the tax increase, which there already was long befor p2p ever was even thought of.
And people think Canadians are lucky, yeah right. Taxed to death is more like it.

corkhead0 · 14th December 2003, 06:09

I would much rather pay and extra $25 for an iPod then pay a $10000 out of court settlement thank-you-very-much.

net-cruizer · 14th December 2003, 07:41

Quote:

Originally posted by corkhead0
I would much rather pay and extra $25 for an iPod then pay a $10000 out of court settlement thank-you-very-much.

It was already legal to download music in Canada, so you couldn't be fined. But now someone wants more money.

corkhead0 · 14th December 2003, 08:23

As long as it keeps them from hunting Canadian p2p users I'm glad it exists.

JackalFace · 14th December 2003, 10:25

I live in America. Wank that. Canada pwns us.

baafie · 14th December 2003, 18:18

Heh..

That's ironic. Downloading is legal, but uploading is illegal. But, if there's a download, there's always an upload. So, an illegal act is required to perform the legal act of downloading music.

Wildrose-Wally · 14th December 2003, 18:25

It is illegal for Canadians to upload mp3's, but the Canadian law does not extend to Holland, the internet does however. Please upload your mp3 libraries so us Canadians can have "free" legal mp3 files.

squall14716 · 14th December 2003, 22:56

Yep. Canada pwns us all. Being a typical American, though, I download without giving a shit whether it's legal or not.

eleet-2k2 · 15th December 2003, 11:50

Quote:

Originally posted by baafie
Heh..

That's ironic. Downloading is legal, but uploading is illegal. But, if there's a download, there's always an upload. So, an illegal act is required to perform the legal act of downloading music.

I'm glad someone else picked up on that. So they've effectively made it illegal.

corkhead0 · 16th December 2003, 00:36

No one says the uploads have to be in Canada.

Fellow non-copyright countries, open you hearts and your bandwidth

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White Raven · 16th December 2003, 03:58

CANADA -- PWNZING YOUR SOUL SINCE THE INDIANS DECIDED TO FORK OVER THEIR LANDS TO THE BRITISH AND FRENCH AND PROCEED TO GET BUTCHERED BY STUPID DISAGREEMENTS AND SMALLPOX.

InvisableMan · 16th December 2003, 04:30

Quote:

Originally posted by squall14716
Yep. Canada pwns us all. Being a typical American, though, I download without giving a shit whether it's legal or not.

Quote:

<~InvisableMan> I owe the RIAA $2,315,100,000 (15,434 mp3s)

Word.

xzxzzx · 16th December 2003, 12:49

Um. Downloading may be illegal in the US, but the RIAA isn't going after downloaders, only those who upload.

This basically doesn't change anything.

[edit] Furthermore, this isn't a court ruling, it's the opinion of the copyright board. Which legally doesn't mean anything - it's not law.[/edit]

zootm · 17th December 2003, 12:12

Quote:

Originally posted by baafie
That's ironic. Downloading is legal, but uploading is illegal. But, if there's a download, there's always an upload. So, an illegal act is required to perform the legal act of downloading music.

bear in mind it's an international system. there is no need for one act to be illegal.

the point that xzxzzx made was a good one, though. downloaders have never been cracked down on. the "music thieves" have never been the victims. only those generous enough to share

14th December 2003, 00:49	#1
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14th December 2003, 18:25	#8
Wildrose-Wally The Albertan Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sunny Southern Alberta Posts: 6,050	It is illegal for Canadians to upload mp3's, but the Canadian law does not extend to Holland, the internet does however. Please upload your mp3 libraries so us Canadians can have "free" legal mp3 files. "We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations." ~ Charles R. Swindoll

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White Raven Little Winged One Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada, now UK Posts: 4,152	CANADA -- PWNZING YOUR SOUL SINCE THE INDIANS DECIDED TO FORK OVER THEIR LANDS TO THE BRITISH AND FRENCH AND PROCEED TO GET BUTCHERED BY STUPID DISAGREEMENTS AND SMALLPOX. just as feathery as ever

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xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,267	Um. Downloading may be illegal in the US, but the RIAA isn't going after downloaders, only those who upload. This basically doesn't change anything. [edit] Furthermore, this isn't a court ruling, it's the opinion of the copyright board. Which legally doesn't mean anything - it's not law.[/edit] Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

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14th December 2003, 01:10	#2
net-cruizer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 359	This is gonna suck big time. In many ways. First off, buying a hard drive or expensive mp3 player is gonna cost a fortune now. Also, the people that don't download copyrighted media are gonna start whining and blaming p2p users for the tax increase, which there already was long befor p2p ever was even thought of. And people think Canadians are lucky, yeah right. Taxed to death is more like it.

14th December 2003, 06:09	#3
corkhead0 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 548	I would much rather pay and extra $25 for an iPod then pay a $10000 out of court settlement thank-you-very-much.

14th December 2003, 08:23	#5
corkhead0 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 548	As long as it keeps them from hunting Canadian p2p users I'm glad it exists.

14th December 2003, 10:25	#6
JackalFace Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nine Posts: 143	I live in America. Wank that. Canada pwns us.

14th December 2003, 18:18	#7
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,768	Heh.. That's ironic. Downloading is legal, but uploading is illegal. But, if there's a download, there's always an upload. So, an illegal act is required to perform the legal act of downloading music.

14th December 2003, 22:56	#9
squall14716 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 349	Yep. Canada pwns us all. Being a typical American, though, I download without giving a shit whether it's legal or not.

16th December 2003, 00:36	#11
corkhead0 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 548	No one says the uploads have to be in Canada. Fellow non-copyright countries, open you hearts and your bandwidth .