Winamp Pro Question

cmmicek · 17th December 2003, 02:11

Just curious as to if the new winamp codec gets rid of the screeeeeching noises that the RIAA puts on new cds..

Thanks

Cheezychops · 17th December 2003, 03:16

No, that screatching is encoded into the mp3, you cant get rid of it without loosing that part of the song.

bgesley · 17th December 2003, 04:17

uh I think the screaching is only on the mp3s you've downloaded on Kazaa. I'd be shocked if they put screaches on ripping mp3 music. Considering ITS LEGAL TO RIP A CD YOU"VE BOUGHT FOR PERSONAL USE.

Too-DAMN-Much · 17th December 2003, 04:22

yes pretty sure it is only kazaa, and only some of the mp3's at that, encountered one disc of "Evanescence" tracks which produced KILLLER headaches cuz it didn't make that sound till part way through and the volume was way up, but just download a different version of the mp3.

(not sure but i would think you wouldn't find those if you use the "bad ip ranges updater" in kazaa lite frequently)

sides would anyone at all pay even $15 if it did that on your ripped cd's???

bgesley · 17th December 2003, 05:10

can't use Kazaa lite anymore, Kazaa won their case. If you didn't know Kazaa Lite was a program sent out by the RIAA in order to get usernames of people that grossly illegally downloaded files. Kazza(original) sued Kazaa Lite for copyright infringement....and won.

Also those Evansence songs sound better with the screaching IMHO.

spleef420 · 17th December 2003, 05:42

just use winmx...it's not infested with RIAA slime (read:lawyers)

D&B · 17th December 2003, 06:18

Quote:

Originally posted by bgesley
If you didn't know Kazaa Lite was a program sent out by the RIAA in order to get usernames of people that grossly illegally downloaded files.

What? The government is in my teeth!

MasterViVi · 17th December 2003, 09:24

I love fake rumours

But it's idd dead due to "copyright"; heh, how ironic.

bgesley · 17th December 2003, 10:00

wouldn't a fake rumor be fact?

MasterViVi · 17th December 2003, 17:15

No.

WanderingKnight · 17th December 2003, 18:11

Quote:

Originally posted by bgesley
can't use Kazaa lite anymore, Kazaa won their case. If you didn't know Kazaa Lite was a program sent out by the RIAA in order to get usernames of people that grossly illegally downloaded files. Kazza(original) sued Kazaa Lite for copyright infringement....and won.

Even aside from the somewhat paranoid delusions regarding the RIAA and KaZaa Lite, this post is in error. KaZaa Lite still works just fine. Yes, it's true that their site got shut down and the project stopped by the makers of KaZaa due to copyright violations (my irony meter just exploded).

However you can still find KaZaa Lite on.... wait for it... KaZaa!

bgesley · 17th December 2003, 18:18

well I guess I should've said "you're not allowed legally to even use Kazaa lite anymore."

Ballsweat · 17th December 2003, 18:20

I know, it's all quite entertaining, the endless irony of this discussion of copyright infringment. I care not to think about it.

Besides, I use Overnet. Far more media, and far more reliable, if a bit slow. The same day Deus Ex Invisible War came out, it was on the network (Thanks Deviance!), and had thousands of sources. I just installed it, and I'm now signing off to play. Take it easy peeps.

MasterViVi · 17th December 2003, 20:50

Gnucleus and DC++ ownz j00

smt142 · 17th December 2003, 21:23

"If you didn't know Kazaa Lite was a program sent out by the RIAA in order to get usernames of people that grossly illegally downloaded files."

This is absolutely completely untrue. Kazaa Lite worked against the RIAA and Sharmin Networks (creators of the original Kazaa). If you notice, the site kazaalite.tk has the domain of TK. Registering a .TK domain name is free, indicating that the creator of Kazaa Lite did not have a lot of money to spend on extras such as a .com, .net, .org, etc. If the RIAA really wanted to push this thing, they would have used a more common domain. Also, if the RIAA wants to combat file sharing (obviously) they aren't going to use a file sharing program that gains the underground notoriety that Kazaa Lite did. They would also use a legally-safe name that wouldn't get them sued.

One very popular misconception is that DOWNLOADING files is legal at the moment. However, UPLOADING files is not (that is, the sending or sharing of files with others). If you turn uploading to other users off in Kazaa Lite, no one will know your username unless you are downloading from them. And your username isn't even what they use to catch you, it's your IP address because a million people could have the same username.

I'm going to catch flak for this I know, and I am in favor of file sharing, but music can't be free and still survive. I love music and listen constantly, but I am a supporter of paid music. The problem with CDs is that you get a couple songs you like (sometimes as few as one song) and then you hate the rest of the CD and can't listen to music for long without changing it. Also CDs used to be $18-$20 and it was hard for younger people to afford them. But now both of those problems are fixed: you can download only the songs you like for the regular price at many places including iTunes, AudioGalaxy.com, and BuyMusic.com. And record companies have seen the light and have lowered the prices of CDs so that you can get them for $9-$15, more often on the lower side. If a CD or song does well and no one gets paid much, why would the artist/label want to put out another CD or song that they could lose money on or make very little on? It's their job to make music and if they can't get any money out of it, they'll eventually stop.

[EDIT]
I still have a copy of the latest version of Kazaa Lite, which was called Kazaa Lite K++ 2.43 (English). At some point I will put this into hosting somewhere and post the link.
[/EDIT]

psycho_maniac · 18th December 2003, 01:14

i got alot of screechins songs from imesh lite. never used winmx cuz it takes too long to dl music. kazaa lite works fine. can i still use kazaa lite.

auhsor · 18th December 2003, 02:07

If you check out the official Kazaa lite forums, you will find thet there are people working on getting the current KMD as a lite version. Apparently soon, users of kazaa lite, won't be able to access those people who use KMD.

Fickle · 18th December 2003, 02:23

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disabledvet · 18th December 2003, 03:15

I just want to concur with what smt142 has to say about pay vs no pay of downloaded music. The record companies are finally waking up and realizing what they should have realized when their sales started dropping.....it wasn't the illegal file sharing that was hurting their business but the price of their music and the quality of their music. smt142 hit it right on the head. And it looks as though someone finally woke up to the facts. Too bad RIAA wouldn't wake up as well.
I used kazaa lite ++ or whatever it is called and downloaded a lot of files with it. I set the uploads to only one at a time and probably only had 20 or so people download from me in total. I did this for a reason. Every song that I downloaded I had purchased at one time or another in my lifetime (and I won't tell you how long that is but it is a long time)and either lost or gave away the tape, disk or record long ago, so I don't feel like I owe the RIAA or any record company any apologies for that. I paid for those songs at least once and sometimes twice, but I did feel a little guilty if I allowed them to be uploaded from me.
Now, what other people do is their business but I feel like I was not hurting the songwriter or performer in any way by downloading something I had already paid for. The real sad thing here is that these performers are not getting paid fairly by the record companies today. It's become a sad state of affairs in the recording industry overall when money comes before anything else, and that is why we are seeing so many artists and so much junk on CD's today. I like what is happening now with the online purchasing of music. You can get what you want and leave it at that.
So, smt142, I concur fully with what you say. You have hit the "proverbial" nail on the head. Now, maybe, we will start seeing a better overall quality of music than we have in the last three or four years...........

17th December 2003, 02:11	#1
cmmicek Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1	Winamp Pro Question Just curious as to if the new winamp codec gets rid of the screeeeeching noises that the RIAA puts on new cds.. Thanks

17th December 2003, 04:22	#4
Too-DAMN-Much The Big Bad Boots (Forum King) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 420 Big Buds Way Posts: 3,964	yes pretty sure it is only kazaa, and only some of the mp3's at that, encountered one disc of "Evanescence" tracks which produced KILLLER headaches cuz it didn't make that sound till part way through and the volume was way up, but just download a different version of the mp3. (not sure but i would think you wouldn't find those if you use the "bad ip ranges updater" in kazaa lite frequently) sides would anyone at all pay even $15 if it did that on your ripped cd's??? I hate everyone, so you don't have to.

17th December 2003, 21:23	#15
smt142 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 10	"If you didn't know Kazaa Lite was a program sent out by the RIAA in order to get usernames of people that grossly illegally downloaded files." This is absolutely completely untrue. Kazaa Lite worked against the RIAA and Sharmin Networks (creators of the original Kazaa). If you notice, the site kazaalite.tk has the domain of TK. Registering a .TK domain name is free, indicating that the creator of Kazaa Lite did not have a lot of money to spend on extras such as a .com, .net, .org, etc. If the RIAA really wanted to push this thing, they would have used a more common domain. Also, if the RIAA wants to combat file sharing (obviously) they aren't going to use a file sharing program that gains the underground notoriety that Kazaa Lite did. They would also use a legally-safe name that wouldn't get them sued. One very popular misconception is that DOWNLOADING files is legal at the moment. However, UPLOADING files is not (that is, the sending or sharing of files with others). If you turn uploading to other users off in Kazaa Lite, no one will know your username unless you are downloading from them. And your username isn't even what they use to catch you, it's your IP address because a million people could have the same username. I'm going to catch flak for this I know, and I am in favor of file sharing, but music can't be free and still survive. I love music and listen constantly, but I am a supporter of paid music. The problem with CDs is that you get a couple songs you like (sometimes as few as one song) and then you hate the rest of the CD and can't listen to music for long without changing it. Also CDs used to be $18-$20 and it was hard for younger people to afford them. But now both of those problems are fixed: you can download only the songs you like for the regular price at many places including iTunes, AudioGalaxy.com, and BuyMusic.com. And record companies have seen the light and have lowered the prices of CDs so that you can get them for $9-$15, more often on the lower side. If a CD or song does well and no one gets paid much, why would the artist/label want to put out another CD or song that they could lose money on or make very little on? It's their job to make music and if they can't get any money out of it, they'll eventually stop. [EDIT] I still have a copy of the latest version of Kazaa Lite, which was called Kazaa Lite K++ 2.43 (English). At some point I will put this into hosting somewhere and post the link. [/EDIT] Last edited by smt142; 17th December 2003 at 21:39.

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17th December 2003, 03:16	#2
Cheezychops Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 767	No, that screatching is encoded into the mp3, you cant get rid of it without loosing that part of the song.

17th December 2003, 04:17	#3
bgesley Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: without wax Posts: 948	uh I think the screaching is only on the mp3s you've downloaded on Kazaa. I'd be shocked if they put screaches on ripping mp3 music. Considering ITS LEGAL TO RIP A CD YOU"VE BOUGHT FOR PERSONAL USE.

17th December 2003, 05:10	#5
bgesley Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: without wax Posts: 948	can't use Kazaa lite anymore, Kazaa won their case. If you didn't know Kazaa Lite was a program sent out by the RIAA in order to get usernames of people that grossly illegally downloaded files. Kazza(original) sued Kazaa Lite for copyright infringement....and won. Also those Evansence songs sound better with the screaching IMHO.

17th December 2003, 05:42	#6
spleef420 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost Wages Posts: 166	just use winmx...it's not infested with RIAA slime (read:lawyers)

17th December 2003, 09:24	#8
MasterViVi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 290	I love fake rumours But it's idd dead due to "copyright"; heh, how ironic.

17th December 2003, 10:00	#9
bgesley Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: without wax Posts: 948	wouldn't a fake rumor be fact?

17th December 2003, 17:15	#10
MasterViVi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 290	No.

17th December 2003, 18:18	#12
bgesley Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: without wax Posts: 948	well I guess I should've said "you're not allowed legally to even use Kazaa lite anymore."

17th December 2003, 18:20	#13
Ballsweat Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 43	I know, it's all quite entertaining, the endless irony of this discussion of copyright infringment. I care not to think about it. Besides, I use Overnet. Far more media, and far more reliable, if a bit slow. The same day Deus Ex Invisible War came out, it was on the network (Thanks Deviance!), and had thousands of sources. I just installed it, and I'm now signing off to play. Take it easy peeps.

17th December 2003, 20:50	#14
MasterViVi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 290	Gnucleus and DC++ ownz j00

18th December 2003, 01:14	#16
psycho_maniac Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,294	i got alot of screechins songs from imesh lite. never used winmx cuz it takes too long to dl music. kazaa lite works fine. can i still use kazaa lite.

18th December 2003, 02:07	#17
auhsor Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 159	If you check out the official Kazaa lite forums, you will find thet there are people working on getting the current KMD as a lite version. Apparently soon, users of kazaa lite, won't be able to access those people who use KMD.

18th December 2003, 03:15	#19
disabledvet Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 20	I just want to concur with what smt142 has to say about pay vs no pay of downloaded music. The record companies are finally waking up and realizing what they should have realized when their sales started dropping.....it wasn't the illegal file sharing that was hurting their business but the price of their music and the quality of their music. smt142 hit it right on the head. And it looks as though someone finally woke up to the facts. Too bad RIAA wouldn't wake up as well. I used kazaa lite ++ or whatever it is called and downloaded a lot of files with it. I set the uploads to only one at a time and probably only had 20 or so people download from me in total. I did this for a reason. Every song that I downloaded I had purchased at one time or another in my lifetime (and I won't tell you how long that is but it is a long time)and either lost or gave away the tape, disk or record long ago, so I don't feel like I owe the RIAA or any record company any apologies for that. I paid for those songs at least once and sometimes twice, but I did feel a little guilty if I allowed them to be uploaded from me. Now, what other people do is their business but I feel like I was not hurting the songwriter or performer in any way by downloading something I had already paid for. The real sad thing here is that these performers are not getting paid fairly by the record companies today. It's become a sad state of affairs in the recording industry overall when money comes before anything else, and that is why we are seeing so many artists and so much junk on CD's today. I like what is happening now with the online purchasing of music. You can get what you want and leave it at that. So, smt142, I concur fully with what you say. You have hit the "proverbial" nail on the head. Now, maybe, we will start seeing a better overall quality of music than we have in the last three or four years...........