You people are retards.

cebailey · 17th December 2003, 06:16

For several reasons. First, even though Nullsoft is controlled by AOL, it's not necessarily a bad thing. If any of you 'complainers' actually read the forum you'd know what was going on. The reason the 'PRO' version costs money is because Nullsoft has to pay for CD burning rights on a per-license basis, and they're simply passing some of this cost on to the conumer.

They might have AOL ads all over the site, and they might install AOL icons with the player, and AOL might delay final releases and such. But Winamp is still by FAR the best A/V player for the Windows operating system, and there's really no way to argue that point. By being controlled by AOL, the developers aren't QUITE as much the 'starving artists' they were before. And judging by the plugins and overall compatibility of Winamp with everything else, AOL hasn't really gotten its grubby hands all over yet.

I've seen this griping ever since Winamp added video support. Maybe some developing time went to video instead of improving audio performance, but I don't see anywhere where audio performance suffers because of added video support. If you want to keep bitching, switch to another player. And as far as paid versions go, I think I'll just mail them a check instead of buying Pro.

sanosuke · 17th December 2003, 07:18

well said....

|LDR|aDa · 17th December 2003, 07:39

I agree with you and all, but wouldnt a more appropriate name for the topic be nicer?

To be honest, i clicked on this topic thinking "oh this is gonna be good" as in "OMG LOL i r gunnah flaem sum newbibutt"

inthegray · 17th December 2003, 13:05

i imagine a slightly mentally disabled winamp user, reading the thread titles in the forum right now, with a tear in his eye....

james · 17th December 2003, 13:09

*makes retard noises*

no wait

~ TIMMAHHHH ~

-j

Rovastar · 17th December 2003, 13:33

Another newbie coems to teh winamp forums complaining how retarded it all is. Well I have had f**king enough I am banning and deleting your account and sending the boys round. :angry: :angry:

Oh.......it wasnt one of those topics.

shuzz · 17th December 2003, 16:36

@ cebailey

LOL, you really tricked us all. well said.

i still think AOL is not good for nullsoft

MasterViVi · 17th December 2003, 17:20

But do I have to check out the damn AOL icon all the damn time when installing?

Denyer · 17th December 2003, 23:47

Quote:

Originally posted by inthegray
i imagine a slightly mentally disabled winamp user, reading the thread titles in the forum right now, with a tear in his eye....

This may be local to my geography, but "retard" possesses a entirely different connotation to "retarded"... "retarded" meaning "limited or held back in development" and "retard" being a synonym for "wilful idiot".

BTW, does anyone else bother to install the video functionality? I can't see me choosing it over Media Player Classic. I'd be happier if the media library came in the lite download.

Jumper001 · 18th December 2003, 01:57

I use the video, only because I like to use one player for everything, and Winamp does the job just fine. I keep MPC around for the odd file Winamp won't play, but that is growing smaller and smaller all the time.

Alltaken · 18th December 2003, 02:09

personally i think its kinda funny that AOL adds the AOL icons and stuff.

personally i think the only time i ever installed them (if i did at all) was the first ever time i installed winamp 2.x

i don't even live in the US, so i mean honestly AOL can't get any money out of me anyway because there are no services they offer me.

i don't even know what AOL art extensions are, and i don't even know what an AOL internet connection entails (somthing about a browser i dunno)

so yeah i must agree the AOL influence here hasn't been detrimental.

personally i'd LOVE to see Winamp go opensource, i think it would flourish, but as it is now i am likeing it

i didn't install most of it though, (one of the best installers i have ever seen actually, offers so many options)

Alltaken

Dipso · 18th December 2003, 02:11

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterViVi
But do I have to check out the damn AOL icon all the damn time when installing?

Yea, thats just totaly anoying...

dlinkwit27 · 18th December 2003, 02:14

Quote:

Originally posted by Dipso
Yea, thats just totaly anoying...

/me bows to celery or whatever his name was. Very good.

Fickle · 18th December 2003, 02:15

It's been there for a long time and I don't really think it's going anywhere.

As far as people being a bunch of morons who bitch about shit thats free, yeah, I allow you to hate them.

rofl@n00bs talking about n00bs.

Kickboy12 · 18th December 2003, 02:18

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterViVi
But do I have to check out the damn AOL icon all the damn time when installing?

I don't know about the other versions of Winamp, but on WInamp 5.0 There is a option for AOL or not. When you install there is a checkbox that says "Add AOL Icon" or something like that.

ShyShy · 18th December 2003, 03:19

Hehehehe, I like this thread.

Any who... I have to agree with cebaily, I'd rather hand the developers the check than give AOL any more of my money. Oh wait... I don't pay for my AOL connection. Hmmm...

I'm a WA girl, so,

to all the naysayers.

morgado · 18th December 2003, 04:54

/me under drugs effect

AOL is not that bad, maybe Micro$oft ...
Oh, what I'm talking man ....

[drugs effect goes out]

I wish someone here from Brasil to keep Nullsoft, i would be nice ...

Jakke83 · 18th December 2003, 06:04

AOL is bad, mmkay..

Dextro · 18th December 2003, 08:37

There's an option in the installer to not to install the AOL icon did you know? (I've seen it there since 2.8x I think).

[rant mode]
List of retard companies:

AOL
M$
Time Warner ( )

[/rant mode]

Fickle · 18th December 2003, 13:01

yes, I hate people who make money.
Die DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE

Really, why hate, AOL bailed out Nullsoft and while slowly firing everyone there, have been funding the company since it almost went under.

You're probably still using Microsoft's systems in some fashion, so you must hate them so much you've converted to Linux and threw out your xbox.

Time Warner is AOL, but the simple fact that you probably went to see some of thier movies this summer (The Matrix 1,2,3) then you must not hate them that much.

Please. Get your head out of your ass. kthnx

mark · 18th December 2003, 17:13

BRING BACK winampx.xxNOAOD.exe!

RGO8 · 18th December 2003, 17:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Fickle
Time Warner is Really, why hate, AOL bailed out Nullsoft and while slowly firing everyone there, have been funding the company since it almost went under.

well said Fickle i really hate ppl that when nothing changes in terms of quality they bitch and wine, like when blizzard was taken over by vivindi ppl whent and through huge fits, i could just picture them throwing out their comp out the window, or storming to vivindi's headquarters and turning that into a gamers version of colombine

those n00bs make me laugh, and well i guess they arnt that bad aslong as they just throw their fit and it doesnt change anything, its when ppl listen to them when things get bad

and btw ppl do need to know that winamp 5 is released, mabey u guies should get some publicity on some other sites that would be great

Edit: Wrong Quote

bgesley · 19th December 2003, 02:01

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterViVi
But do I have to check out the damn AOL icon all the damn time when installing?

hah how often do you install the same program?

StAnGeR04 · 19th December 2003, 03:40

Quote:

Originally posted by shuzz
@ cebailey

LOL, you really tricked us all. well said.

i still think AOL is not good for nullsoft

I agree if Brennan getting laid off has any truth to it ..

Plague · 19th December 2003, 05:36

it has..
and aol sucks..

and I'm going to bed..

-Plague

17th December 2003, 06:16	#1
cebailey Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 24	You people are retards. For several reasons. First, even though Nullsoft is controlled by AOL, it's not necessarily a bad thing. If any of you 'complainers' actually read the forum you'd know what was going on. The reason the 'PRO' version costs money is because Nullsoft has to pay for CD burning rights on a per-license basis, and they're simply passing some of this cost on to the conumer. They might have AOL ads all over the site, and they might install AOL icons with the player, and AOL might delay final releases and such. But Winamp is still by FAR the best A/V player for the Windows operating system, and there's really no way to argue that point. By being controlled by AOL, the developers aren't QUITE as much the 'starving artists' they were before. And judging by the plugins and overall compatibility of Winamp with everything else, AOL hasn't really gotten its grubby hands all over yet. I've seen this griping ever since Winamp added video support. Maybe some developing time went to video instead of improving audio performance, but I don't see anywhere where audio performance suffers because of added video support. If you want to keep bitching, switch to another player. And as far as paid versions go, I think I'll just mail them a check instead of buying Pro.

17th December 2003, 07:18	#2
sanosuke Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,891	well said.... Big-assed signature deleted by errr.. whats his name again??

17th December 2003, 13:05	#4
inthegray Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 704	i imagine a slightly mentally disabled winamp user, reading the thread titles in the forum right now, with a tear in his eye.... eric is awesome

17th December 2003, 13:09	#5
james Forum PFY (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WR3 or NG7 Posts: 6.2+3i Posts: 1,700	makes retard noises no wait ~ TIMMAHHHH ~ -j He uses statistics like a drunk uses lamp-posts: for support, not illumination.

17th December 2003, 13:33	#6
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,612	Another newbie coems to teh winamp forums complaining how retarded it all is. Well I have had f**king enough I am banning and deleting your account and sending the boys round. :angry: :angry: Oh.......it wasnt one of those topics. "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - MilkDrop www.milkdrop.co.uk New Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

17th December 2003, 07:39	#3
\|LDR\|aDa Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denmark, Copenhagen. Posts: 42	I agree with you and all, but wouldnt a more appropriate name for the topic be nicer? To be honest, i clicked on this topic thinking "oh this is gonna be good" as in "OMG LOL i r gunnah flaem sum newbibutt"

17th December 2003, 16:36	#7
shuzz Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 50	@ cebailey LOL, you really tricked us all. well said. i still think AOL is not good for nullsoft

17th December 2003, 17:20	#8
MasterViVi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 286	But do I have to check out the damn AOL icon all the damn time when installing?

18th December 2003, 01:57	#10
Jumper001 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mars Posts: 125	I use the video, only because I like to use one player for everything, and Winamp does the job just fine. I keep MPC around for the odd file Winamp won't play, but that is growing smaller and smaller all the time.

18th December 2003, 02:09	#11
Alltaken Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 215	personally i think its kinda funny that AOL adds the AOL icons and stuff. personally i think the only time i ever installed them (if i did at all) was the first ever time i installed winamp 2.x i don't even live in the US, so i mean honestly AOL can't get any money out of me anyway because there are no services they offer me. i don't even know what AOL art extensions are, and i don't even know what an AOL internet connection entails (somthing about a browser i dunno) so yeah i must agree the AOL influence here hasn't been detrimental. personally i'd LOVE to see Winamp go opensource, i think it would flourish, but as it is now i am likeing it i didn't install most of it though, (one of the best installers i have ever seen actually, offers so many options) Alltaken

18th December 2003, 02:15	#14
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,504	It's been there for a long time and I don't really think it's going anywhere. As far as people being a bunch of morons who bitch about shit thats free, yeah, I allow you to hate them. rofl@n00bs talking about n00bs. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

18th December 2003, 03:19	#16
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,017	Hehehehe, I like this thread. Any who... I have to agree with cebaily, I'd rather hand the developers the check than give AOL any more of my money. Oh wait... I don't pay for my AOL connection. Hmmm... I'm a WA girl, so, to all the naysayers.

18th December 2003, 04:54	#17
morgado Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: away from my baby Posts: 1,097	/me under drugs effect AOL is not that bad, maybe Micro$oft ... Oh, what I'm talking man .... [drugs effect goes out] I wish someone here from Brasil to keep Nullsoft, i would be nice ... I Love You Ana Luiza MSN

18th December 2003, 06:04	#18
Jakke83 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 9	AOL is bad, mmkay..

18th December 2003, 08:37	#19
Dextro Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 293	There's an option in the installer to not to install the AOL icon did you know? (I've seen it there since 2.8x I think). [rant mode] List of retard companies: AOL M$ Time Warner ( ) [/rant mode]

18th December 2003, 13:01	#20
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,504	yes, I hate people who make money. Die DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE Really, why hate, AOL bailed out Nullsoft and while slowly firing everyone there, have been funding the company since it almost went under. You're probably still using Microsoft's systems in some fashion, so you must hate them so much you've converted to Linux and threw out your xbox. Time Warner is AOL, but the simple fact that you probably went to see some of thier movies this summer (The Matrix 1,2,3) then you must not hate them that much. Please. Get your head out of your ass. kthnx Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

18th December 2003, 17:13	#21
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	BRING BACK winampx.xxNOAOD.exe!

19th December 2003, 05:36	#25
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