Riaa Eat A Fat One....

[evantongeren]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3758771/

[zetafunction]

A slightly longer article on the same thing is @ http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/19/mu...eut/index.html

[zootm]

[Kinetik*]

pwnt

[Joel]

I thought RIAA was gone

[ScorLibran]

Cary Sherman, president of the recording industry group, said the ruling “unfortunately means we can no longer notify illegal file sharers before we file lawsuits against them to offer the opportunity to settle outside of litigation.”

I think what he means is that the ruling “unfortunately means we can no longer discover the names of illegal file sharers in order to file lawsuits against them.” Perhaps he was confused.....or tired?

Here's the article in The Register on the same subject.

The RIAA, of course, contends that blocking a user's access to the Internet would solve the infringement problem, giving customers no way to trade files. The court, however, again sided with Verizon here, saying an individual's access to copyrighted songs and to the Internet are two different matters all together.

The judges were harsh at times in the opinion, calling some of the RIAA's arguments silly and largely saying the RIAA has no merits for its case.

Makes me wonder... Does the RIAA think internet access is a privilege or a right? I bet they'd answer that question wrongly.

----- Forward the revolution.

[White Raven]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOSEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRS!
Hah, I'm glad the bastards lost that case, they're acting like they're so goddamn innocent, when really, they aren't at all. In reality the musicians only get something like 8% of the money they generate. In short, I consider RIAA to be nothing more than a large, overfed pimp.

[Kinetik*]

I downloaded all the songs off of blink-182's new album and mailed them (The artists) the money that the album would have costed me in a store directly. They deserved it, not their label.

[evantongeren]

Thats Pretty Honest of you Kinetik. Either way I'm not paying anything for my new "Foriegner" songs! I totally kicks ass!

[Vie]

You do realise that the artists adress' arnt there adress'?

[Kinetik*]

I looked up Tom DeLonge's address from somewhere. I'm sure it was his address. I can't remember where I found it out at, though. Lol.

[Vie]

There is one confuesed stranger sitting at home looking at the money right now.

[ihatejelly0]

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[henry3k56]

Anyway. The RIAA will be here as long as there are illegal downloads or anything that is hurting their industry business.

[ScorLibran]

Actually, it's a more broad reason than that, even. As with almost any corporation, it's all about the M*O*N*E*Y.

The fact that the RIAA cries "revenue loss" because of illegal downloading doesn't mean that's their main incentive. Illegal downloads are likely not so damaging in themselves to their profit margin. It's more that they can use illegal downloading as an excuse to crack down on people in an attempt to shore up profits in many ways.

They're not so different from many of the world's for-profit businesses. If I convinced my company that not wearing any clothes below the waist would increase profits, there would be a flock of streakers walking around in my town every day at lunch time.

The RIAA will do anything to increase their revenues. That they are pulling the "stop illegal music sharing" bandwagon is just incidental. Something they can point to and scream about. A crutch. An icon. Whatever you want to call it. If illegal downloads all stopped tomorrow, the RIAA would not "quietly step off the stage". Their motives and intentions are much darker. Think "Microsoft, circa 1989". Hardly any competition, lots of financial and legal muscle, a myriad of strategic partnerships. They're poised for more domination than they have now, even. Soon, we'll long for the era we're in now. In several years, it won't be this pleasant.

[eleet-2k2]

I'm glad they can no longer file lawsuits. Bastards. Now I heard the same thing is going to start happening in Canada, but ISP's do not have to give out user info like the US.

[godoncrack]

what about past lawsuits?
remember that 12-year old girl?

[papadoc]

Don't kid yourselves into a false security about this ruling.
The RIAA will find a way around it.
They've proven in the past they have no regard for the law.
If the law doesn't suit them, they have it changed.
Like they did with this one.
It lasted long enough before it was overturned, to strike
fear and loathing into the p2p community.

So here's what I think we need to ask.
If this law they used to sue people is now wrong,
doesn't that make the lawsuits prior to now, null and void?

[Kinetik*]

So here's what I think we need to ask.
If this law they used to sue people is now wrong,
doesn't that make the lawsuits prior to now, null and void?

Ex Post-Facto (Before the fact)law says no. It's like if the courts pass a law that posting on internet forums is illegal, they can't come get us for doing it before they passed the law, but they can if we did it afterwords.

[papadoc]

Guess your'e right on that Kinetik*
But wouldn't it be great if the people who've been sued,
could just rip up their lawsuits?
And say screw you, RIAA!

[InvisableMan]

i can finally get back up to my normal speed of downloading again and restart having EVERYTHING going at once instead of just irc 24/7 and the other standalones maybe 20 mins a day.

i bet the riaa loves me.

<~InvisableMan> I owe the RIAA $2,336,700,000 (15,578 mp3s)

currently downloading anywhere between 5-50 a day (sometimes i'll get 300 in a night at a lan party or something, i like getting entire game/anime soundtracks from friends) and uploading 500-2500 a day

of course i DO support my favorite artists, alas, if they lowered the price to maybe $10 a cd instead of 20-30 a cd, i would buy alot more and save myself the trouble of downloading and searching and uploading and downloading constantly. but oh well. i hope the riaa burns for the social atrocities they commit (sueing 12 year olds and whatnot)

rant rant rant rant rant. come and get me you red diaper doper babies. you'll never get a damn penny unless you rip it from my cold dead hands.

[s1138]

this is good news

though, as of recently, ive only been downloading songs the RIAA doesnt own anyway.

[morgado]

I think musicians should open some pay-pal stuff ...
So we could download music and pay direct to them ...
RIAA, a fat one ...

[cpukiller]

Shit, if the RIAA sues me, do they think I will ever buy a CD again? Atleast now I buy a CD every once in a while.

They aren't helping themselves any. And I used to buy more CDs before they started their shit, and now buy much, much less.